There is nothing worse than a "new vegan".
I sometimes say "there's no such thing as a stupid question", so, well... here's the answer...
My "stance on dumpster diving for food" ... :| ... is very negative for a whole list of very obvious reasons: both short-term and long-term health risks, possible violations of property rights, economic unsustainability, and giving people a very negative image of what Free Staters are all about.
The point of this diet is to improve one's health while pursuing economic secession from the government, not parasitic impoverishment!
Abbie Hoffmann was a drugtarded commie retard. :x
... but bringing him up made me realize yet another advantage of this diet - if it is well known that you are careful about what you put in your body, it would be more difficult for Them to "suicide" you via an overdose.
Any more stupidity from Taimu Raidiu and this thread will be moved to Hijack Free Zone.
[...] Why would you eat out of something that spoiled meat and fish regularly go into? [...] |
[...] Why would you eat out of something that spoiled meat and fish regularly go into? [...]
Socialist medicine? :lol:
What's your stance on dumpster diving for food?
I used to do it when there was a supermarket that did this within a couple miles of me and I was with two partners. Tasty food aplenty!
[...] Why would you eat out of something that spoiled meat and fish regularly go into? [...]
Socialist medicine? :lol:
actually not bad if you go for the sealed containers and for recent dumps.
Also, fish. Fish is good. I like fish.
First person to say anything about mercury gets autobann'd. Heavy Metal Toxic Fish would be a stupid name for a band, let alone a sound theory. People would have to eat fish morning, noon and night for any considerable levels to accumulate, and they'd have to be high up the fish-chain. Omega-3 is important. It improves brain function, and keeps the frowny-faces away.
People in New England reap great income from the harvest of fish, and often do so privately, without subsidy. They are known to be stalwart tax resistors, plying their wares for cash at the docks, telling Uncle Sam to kiss their salty asses, pumping lewdly from the hips in mock fornication. They actually do this, and it is to be greatly admired.
Also, fish. Fish is good. I like fish.
First person to say anything about mercury gets autobann'd. Heavy Metal Toxic Fish would be a stupid name for a band, let alone a sound theory. People would have to eat fish morning, noon and night for any considerable levels to accumulate, and they'd have to be high up the fish-chain. Omega-3 is important. It improves brain function, and keeps the frowny-faces away.
People in New England reap great income from the harvest of fish, and often do so privately, without subsidy. They are known to be stalwart tax resistors, plying their wares for cash at the docks, telling Uncle Sam to kiss their salty asses, pumping lewdly from the hips in mock fornication. They actually do this, and it is to be greatly admired.
Well canning foods in third world countries that do a lot of the tuna trade does add impurities.
Abbie Hoffmann was a drugtarded commie retard. :x
... but bringing him up made me realize yet another advantage of this diet - if it is well known that you are careful about what you put in your body, it would be more difficult for Them to "suicide" you via an overdose.
Any more stupidity from Taimu Raidiu and this thread will be moved to Hijack Free Zone.
Also, fish. Fish is good. I like fish.
First person to say anything about mercury gets autobann'd. Heavy Metal Toxic Fish would be a stupid name for a band, let alone a sound theory. People would have to eat fish morning, noon and night for any considerable levels to accumulate, and they'd have to be high up the fish-chain. Omega-3 is important. It improves brain function, and keeps the frowny-faces away.
People in New England reap great income from the harvest of fish, and often do so privately, without subsidy. They are known to be stalwart tax resistors, plying their wares for cash at the docks, telling Uncle Sam to kiss their salty asses, pumping lewdly from the hips in mock fornication. They actually do this, and it is to be greatly admired.
Also, fish. Fish is good. I like fish.
First person to say anything about mercury gets autobann'd. Heavy Metal Toxic Fish would be a stupid name for a band, let alone a sound theory. People would have to eat fish morning, noon and night for any considerable levels to accumulate, and they'd have to be high up the fish-chain. Omega-3 is important. It improves brain function, and keeps the frowny-faces away.
People in New England reap great income from the harvest of fish, and often do so privately, without subsidy. They are known to be stalwart tax resistors, plying their wares for cash at the docks, telling Uncle Sam to kiss their salty asses, pumping lewdly from the hips in mock fornication. They actually do this, and it is to be greatly admired.
You should eat bugs. |
WAT
Insects have huge amounts of cholesterol and other toxins, are very costly to "harvest", and have hardly any nutritional benefits to speak of.
Insects have huge amounts of cholesterol and other toxins, are very costly to "harvest", and have hardly any nutritional benefits to speak of.
You're forgetting that insects also need to be cleaned. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick026.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Eating a whole ant is not much different than eating any other animal: exoskeleton, guts, and so on. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick007.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
And how do you ask an ant to poop itself empty so you don't swallow its shi'ite? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
What's your stance on dumpster diving for food?
I used to do it when there was a supermarket that did this within a couple miles of me and I was with two partners. Tasty food aplenty!
Healthy compared to what? A hamburger - definitely. A vegetable salad - I don't think so.
To get a meal's worth of protein (30g) from sardines (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=130g+sardines) you're also getting 14g fat (3g saturated), 132mg of cholesterol, and a whole lot of other things our mod overlord hath commanded me to speak of not!
Plus sardines usually have their inner organs removed and are thoroughly washed prior to cooking / canning - good luck doing that to each individual bug.
What is a Freegan?
Freegans are people who employ alternative strategies for living based on limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources. Freegans embrace community, generosity, social concern, freedom, cooperation, and sharing in opposition to a society based on materialism, moral apathy, competition, conformity, and greed.
That is 14 grams of healthy fat that is excellent for you. It is the most healthy thing about sardines. |
Animal fat is not healthyIt's only "not healthy" in excess. Small amounts won't hurt you.
Can you please move the freegantardedness to another thread, please?
Can you please move the freegantardedness to another thread, please?Besides found food is also tax free isn't it.
It's only "not healthy" in excess. Small amounts won't hurt you. |
[...] You never know the economy might get so bad people will start dumpster diving for food out of necessity. |
Besides found food is also tax free isn't it. |
OK, so you can have an insect farm and feed it stuff humans normally wouldn't eat, but, um, WHY?!You can stop taking the vitamin pills. Or do you have black market tax resister pills?
Insects are on a par with shellfish in providing high-quality protein and are a good source of other nutrients such as iron, calcium and B vitamins.
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Insects have the advantage of being cheap and easy to raise. Those diners in the know suggest starting off with mealworms and working your way up to crickets, which apparently are very difficult to muster if they escape.
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If you're willing to put your prejudices aside, there can be plenty of variety in insect-eating. Earthworms are 70% protein and soaking them in water overnight will purge them of soil. Ants have a vinegary taste; in countries such as Thailand ant juice is sometimes substituted for recipes that call for lemon. Honey bees, a worldwide favourite, are edible at all stages of growth, larval, pupal and adult. Boiling breaks down the poison in their stingers. Moths are said to taste like almonds and have the advantage of being easy to catch with a bright light. Termites are second only to grasshoppers as the most commonly eaten insect and in Nigeria you can buy termite stock cubes. Fly larvae - or maggots - are rich in calories and protein. Scoop them off decomposed meat, wash in cold water, boil and they're ready to eat. 'In the natural, they are easy to capture and often found in clusters in such places as road kill,' advises one source. Crickets can be an excellent and healthy alternative to meat. 100g of crickets contains 12g of protein and only 5.5g of fat.
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Insects taste best if cooked or frozen when alive. Freezing has the advantage of slowing down the more lively ones. Insects with a hard outer shell have parasites and need to be boiled before eating. Larvae are easier to eat than adult insects: particularly as not everyone is happy to remove an exoskeleton from between their teeth. Insects such as crickets concentrate toxins in their bodies, so should not be picked where pesticides have been used. Pet shops are a good source of insect supply and it doesn't require much space to raise your own micro-livestock.
Anyways, my points about cholesterol, toxicity, and acidity still stand.Don't eat cholesterol filled, toxic bugs. I've never been big on the acidity thing.
What about insects as a part of the human diet? Since they are animals, do their tissues also contain cholesterol? Insects are very interesting, in that they too need sterols for the biosynethesis of membranes and as precursors to hormones (.e.g., the ecdysteroids), but they are unable to synthesize them de novo. (4). Therefore, they must obtain these molecules exogenously, from their diet or from symbionts. Those insects that feed on animal products (e.g., the hide beetle, Demestes vulpinus [5]) can easily obtain cholesterol from their diet and so bee, Apis mellifera (7). The latter insect has avoided the necessity of producing 24-desalkylsterols in order to biosynthesize ecdysteroids. It simply uses makisterone A (an alkylated ecdysteroid) as its molting hormone!
In addition, studies in my laboratory have shown that replacing the Δ5-sterols in the diet of the corn earworm, Heliothis zea with delta 7-, delta 5,7-, or delta O-sterols results in an insect that contains little, if any, cholesterol (8,9). This lepidopteran dealkylates the new dietary sterols but does not hydrogenate the double bonds or introduce new ones. The structures of the resulting tissue sterols render them unabsorbable by the normal human digestive tract. Therefore, if one was interested in producing insects, such as A. domesticus, with a low cholesterol level, one might try feeding them, for example, a diet rich in alfalfa sterols (i.e., Δ7-sterols). Perhaps they, like H. zea (10), would utilize the Δ7-sterols predominately in their tissues. The alfalfa weevil, Hypera postica, which is a pest of alfalfa, uses Δ7-sterols and routinely lacks cholesterol in its tissues (10). Other insects, which naturally feed on diets that contain sterols other than Δ5-sterols, and do not contain cholesterol in their tissues, include the fly, Drosophila pachea (11), and the leaf-cutting ant, Atta cephalotes isthmicola (12).
You probably wouldn't have to worry about eating too many bugs.
It's only "not healthy" in excess. Small amounts won't hurt you.
That can be said of anything, including arsenic, but I wouldn't put it on my plate on purpose, especially knowing how bad I am at portion control... I can eat pounds of meat in one meal! If I follow this diet, on the other hand, there's just no way I can eat too much!
Also, fish. Fish is good. I like fish.
First person to say anything about mercury gets autobann'd. Heavy Metal Toxic Fish would be a stupid name for a band, let alone a sound theory. People would have to eat fish morning, noon and night for any considerable levels to accumulate, and they'd have to be high up the fish-chain. Omega-3 is important. It improves brain function, and keeps the frowny-faces away.
People in New England reap great income from the harvest of fish, and often do so privately, without subsidy. They are known to be stalwart tax resistors, plying their wares for cash at the docks, telling Uncle Sam to kiss their salty asses, pumping lewdly from the hips in mock fornication. They actually do this, and it is to be greatly admired.
According to the dietary philosophy described in this thread, the top 3 reasons not to eat fish are: taxes, subsidies, and regulations - from your basic hobbyist fishing license to government management of commercial fishing to regulation of fish farms (or "sea kittens", as the PETA-tards lobby wants to call them). Your claims of fishermen being tax resisters in any significant qualities seem ridiculous. Ocean shores are filled with government-loving assholes with a hard-on for snitching on you for not having your boat registered, etc - that's no place to build a Galt's Gulch!
I agree that at first glance fish seems to make a whole lot more nutritional and economic sense than land-animal-based food, but some of those advantages don't stand up to scrutiny. Proximity to bodies of water raises demand for that land, and thus its cost, especially though higher taxes - you would get a far better return on your investment by investing your money into cheap land in the middle of nowhere (but with enough hydration for irrigation of course), and investing your time into improving & farming it. And even from the "stretching earth's resources to feed hundreds of billions of people" point of view, there are many other ways water resources can be used for food production: seaweed farming, floating farms, and so on.
It's just a simple fact of biology that plants, which get their nutrients directly from sources inedible to us (i.e. soil and sunlight), are far more economical sources of nutrition than animals, which must eat far greater quantities of plants and/or other animals in order to grow. Filtering your nutrients through other animals has no benefits, and a whole list of drawbacks (some of which you asked me not to mention, so I won't).
Fish is also less healthy than plant-based foods: it's acidic, contains cholesterol (especially shellfish), etc. You get far better omega-3 and other healthy fats from plant foods - in large quantities from things like avocados, olives, nuts, and seeds (especially hemp), or in small quantities in pretty much all vegetables and grains (except the processed / "junk carbs" mentioned above).
Acidic foods are mutually-addictive: you have a little bit of fish and you start craving a cola, you have a cola and you start craving a hamburger, etc. If you quit them completely, after a while those cravings go away, and your body also gradually adjusts to not getting any acid / poison / cholesterol in your diet, which results in a far healthier cardiovascular system that only long-term alkaline vegans typically have.
Don't you have to pay property tax for your land in the middle of nowhere? |
We are not the Mafia. For one thing, we don't let government agents die as quickly and painlessly as they do. :twisted:
You seem to be missing the point of investing in local untaxable institutions. You need to kiss the government's butt just to buy a fishing license! And when a fishing company fails to catch any fish year after year, they'll obviously become suspicious, bug you, and throw you into federal prison for tax evasion. Skimming a little off the top is not economic secession! And we operate openly - have you noticed that we're discussing this in a public forum?! Freedom through obscurity is not what we're fighting for!
Your wish of me being murdered or jailed by the Feds will come true soon enough, but I can guarantee you - it won't be due to any personal weakness!
[...] Also, it all just makes damn good sense. Nice work. |
Breatharian's have the real tax resister diet. |
Eating less of one amino acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid) might lengthen your life. There have been lots of previous studies showing that many species live long on highly restricted calories, but a lot of this benefit may be possible by only restricting one amino acid (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/50275/title/Amino_acid_recipe_could_be_right_for_long_life). Amino acids that have shown this have been tryptophan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan#Dietary_sources) and methionine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionine#Dietary_aspects). A recent study, published online December 2 in Nature, a highly respected journal, may help explain some of the health benefits of restricted-calorie diets.
Vegans (especially those that also avoid unfermented soy (http://www.vegsource.com/articles/alzheimers_homocysteine.htm) and get enough B-12 (http://www.examiner.com/x-5670-Seattle-Vegan-Examiner~y2009m9d30-Vegetarian-and-vegan-diets-protect-against-dementia)) have fewer incidents of Alzheimer's and other forms of old-age senility. New studies are showing that vegans who eat right have more energy and stamina later in life - no wonder East Asian seniors are so much more alert and active than American ones. The foremost of all liberties is the control over one's own mind!
[...] dementia, Alzheimer's, and other neurological disorders like Autism is because of non-organic meats. [...] |
[...] Amish people live to be old, but not senile. Asians, same thing. [...] |
[...] Soy is a part of the vegetarian diet that should be avoided. [...] |
[...] dementia, Alzheimer's, and other neurological disorders like Autism is because of non-organic meats. [...]
Free range meat requires a lot more land to grow, multiplying the production costs. The future Free State Project can have (A) a great economic miracle with many of the world's brightest minds moving in, it can have (B) agricultural independence so it doesn't have to import food from countries it may be trying to secede from, which they may use as a bargaining chip to keep us under their thumb, or it can (C) retain its animal-centric food culture - pick any two.
Libman, your either/or scenario reminds me of the story of the Norse trying to be ranchers in Greenland and starving to death because they refused to eat Inuit food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland#The_demise_of_the_Greenland_Norse_settlements
Hey, we're just discussing cultural issues here - it should be rather obvious by now that we're not talking about using any kind of force. Ultimately the only person whose diet I control is myself (and any children I may have), but I can still express an opinion about what food choices seem more or less rational in combination with other aspects of the Free Stater culture. People shouldn't be surprised when they find that government-unsubsidized free range beef costs upwards of $80/lb!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland#The_demise_of_the_Greenland_Norse_settlements |
There are stories of European settlers encountering blonde-haired blue-eyed "Indians" in the 1500s. |
Very interesting story, Drifter, thank you. I'm not saying it takes a shit-load of land to produce meat, only that it takes less land to feed a vegan. New Hampshire's population density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density) is already higher than the national average... and its agricultural production (http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/publish/article_712.shtml) is almost entirely animal-based (plus "junk carbs" like applies)... Do you think the U.S. revolution could have been successful if America relied on 90% of its food being imported from England? :?
Libman, your either/or scenario reminds me of the story of the Norse trying to be ranchers in Greenland and starving to death because they refused to eat Inuit food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland#The_demise_of_the_Greenland_Norse_settlements
Some of them probably survived, but not as Norse.
There are stories of European settlers encountering blonde-haired blue-eyed "Indians" in the 1500s.
Well I think that even MORE ideally, you have no cows and only do what you do best. Your neighbor has all the cows, and you buy them from him one at a time or buy parts of a cow from him :)
There are many things that are very easy to grow, add a lot more aesthetic and olfactory benefits that the stupid American habit of growing and trimming useless grass everywhere, that you can hire others to plant / harvest / etc for you and still make a profit.
whoever started this thread.. you seem to be a victim of politically correct nutrition. You really should read some research, actual science behind what kinds of food you need. Animal fats are a good thing, as are many other things that the trendy nutritionists have eschewed. Here is a great website to get some info. http://westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/index.html#guidelines
whoever started this thread.. you seem to be a victim of politically correct nutrition. |
You really should read some research, actual science behind what kinds of food you need. Animal fats are a good thing, as are many other things that the trendy nutritionists have eschewed. Here is a great website to get some info. http://westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/index.html#guidelines |
Growing plants to feed to food animals just isn't economical, and attracts far too many gov regulations.
Yeah. The people I know who hay are under a constant barrage of government regulation. |
And the tractor, my god! It uses, gosh, two-three gallons per acre to harvest all that hay. |
Theres more to food than calorie content. Some things you just like eating. |
And to be honest, I very much doubt you could harvest ten tons of rutabaga from one acre. [...] |
(Sorry I took so long to edit and add to my previous post - wanted to re-RTFM some reference materials to make sure I got the numbers right.)
Theres more to food than calorie content. Some things you just like eating.
I'm looking forward to discussing that - on the "Brasky's Government-Loving Eat-Whatever-Tastes-Good Diet" thread. ;)
Spin much? Subsidy subsidy!! Tell you what. You catch me growing food on subsidy of any kind, and [...] |
I'll fuckin' blow ya. Okay? |
Libman, have you ever considered square foot farming? |
Where's the Meat Porn thread when you need it? |
Spin much? Subsidy subsidy!! Tell you what. You catch me growing food on subsidy of any kind, and [...]
The government is bidirectionally evil: it's evil when it tries to help you at someone else's expense, and it's also evil when it taxes and regulates you. If you don't accept any subsidies on meat production, that only addresses half of the problem. Growing cows outside New Hampshire has a far greater per-meal taxation footprint than growing hemp in NH (outside any municipalities of course).
I'll fuckin' blow ya. Okay?
No thank you. Finding old farts who want to blow me is the easiest thing in the world, but I'm just not into that sorta thing. Sorry.
For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.
It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.
Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!
Oh, you thought I planned on doing all the hard work myself?
LOL - hell no. I'm a l33t coder. That's what illegal immigrants are for. ;)
It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.
Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!
No, but I don't imagine it tasting very well. I think I'd try some Chow if I went to Canton though.... :lol:It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.
Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!
you've had dog meat?
Didn't you say something earlier on about allowing people to carry your rifle? |
The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well. Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc. Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list. What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? :lol:
lol....
The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well. Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc. Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list. What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? :lol:
Heres a radical concept... Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh.
One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.
lol....
The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well. Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc. Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list. What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? :lol:
Heres a radical concept... Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh.
One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.
You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?
lol....
The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well. Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc. Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list. What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? :lol:
Heres a radical concept... Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh.
One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.
You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?
We may be onto something here. It does indeed sound super.
THERE MUST BE SOME FLAW IN THIS SCHEME.
lol....
The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well. Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc. Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list. What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? :lol:
Heres a radical concept... Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh.
One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.
You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?
We may be onto something here. It does indeed sound super.
THERE MUST BE SOME FLAW IN THIS SCHEME.
What?! A tax resistance... supermarket?! It ain't got a chance!
You're really missing the whole point! It's freedom to enhance!
Sure, we can have farmer's markets, and other untaxed trade,
But goal is self-reliance. Home-grown, home-built, home-made!
You need to reread this whole thread, on how you missed a clue!
Why we should home-pickle; home-bake, home-fix, home-brew!
When we free ourselves of taxes, and stop replying on state,
Secession would be possible, and road there would be straight!
Wow, talking to Drifter on this thread has really deepened my respect for people who work with developmentally challenged children - same cognitive malfucktions over and over and over again... This thread isn't about what tastes good, or what's cost effective as part of the current government-controlled economic system. It's about Tax Resistance! It's in the thread title, dumbass! A potato from your own field is worth 20x more than the one at the store, because you know it's untaxed, unsubsidized, unpoisoned, and can be counted on even if the rest of the world raptures to Arma-fucking-geddon! If a bunch of Free Staters buy up enough adjacent land (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19215) and use it to grow a fuck-load of food, then any serious talk about secession is one step closer to reality!
I don't need others to include me - I decide to include others.
OK, fine, Drifter, just to prove a point - I'll harvest it all by myself.
You've just cost a couple "illegal migrants" two weeks of low-paid work.
Happy?
:lol:
I'll just program my ninja robots to work the farm for me.
And, yes, they will address me as Massa. That does without saying. :twisted:
Libman, your either/or scenario reminds me of the story of the Norse trying to be ranchers in Greenland and starving to death because they refused to eat Inuit food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland#The_demise_of_the_Greenland_Norse_settlements
Some of them probably survived, but not as Norse.
There are stories of European settlers encountering blonde-haired blue-eyed "Indians" in the 1500s.
Actually Ive heard they developed those traits the same way the european blonde-haired blue-eyes did quite naturally but pretty much separately.
[...] Why would you eat out of something that spoiled meat and fish regularly go into? [...]
Socialist medicine? :lol:
actually not bad if you go for the sealed containers and for recent dumps.
I have never thrown anything that was in a "sealed container" into the dumpster.
There is nothing worse than a "new vegan".
What will you do for your next pair of shoes?
I've never been able to make breasts. (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I%27ve+never+been+able+to+make+breasts.%22) :roll: |
I wonder how often libman bathes. |
Moccasins?! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick007.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Tax resisters wear shoes you can kick butt in!
But this is a diet thread - please try to stay on topic.
Moccasins?! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick007.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Tax resisters wear shoes you can kick butt in!
But this is a diet thread - please try to stay on topic.
Killing a deer without a hunting license means that the government can't get the taxes you'd pay on it. Plus you can smoke the deer meat and make sausage out of the organs, as well as make clothes out of the hide.
Make sure not to kill too many, else you might not have deer when you need it.
You are all mentally deranged fascists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany)! There is absolutely no rational basis for "animal rights" (http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/521605-rational-basis-human-rights-vs-irrational.html), which in reality violate human rights and place almost limitless power in the hands of the government. Thugs who impose their arbitrary emotions on others deserve to fall victim to the same - how would you feel if someone forced you to wear a veil or pray to Allah five times a day?!
This is exactly why I didn't go vegan (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=31494) sooner, and the reason why millions of people would rather die 20 years early than go vegan - because they don't want to be associated with people like you! :x
Perhaps we should refer to this bbs as the "Troll Home Base." |
Keep us updated Libman! Kicking the caffeine habit is a good idea, if you can do it, tell me how so I can too. |
Alex, the reason you are craving meat so bad is because you're starving yourself. |
[...] Go buy some 99c/lb beef at Food4Less at least [...] |
If you're in Michigan, there's absolutely no sales tax on food. |
Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
Eat meat to stay healthy... ?No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
So, besides giving yourself an excuse for consuming mass quantities of beef (sort of like excusing circumcisions), what was your point?
Eat meat to stay healthy... ?No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
So, besides giving yourself an excuse for consuming mass quantities of beef (sort of like excusing circumcisions), what was your point?
For many people this is the case.Eat meat to stay healthy... ?No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
So, besides giving yourself an excuse for consuming mass quantities of beef (sort of like excusing circumcisions), what was your point?
So you're saying you can't be healthy unless you eat meat?
For many people this is the case.Eat meat to stay healthy... ?No shit.Trust me, there are proteins in meat that you can't get anywhere else. You need those proteins. There's a reason your body is craving meat.
You know that your body just breaks down proteins into amino acids, right? They don't magically go through your intestinal wall straight into your muscles or some shit.
Yes, your body can get the nutrition from meat, and meat tastes delicious. But it can get it from plants too.
So, besides giving yourself an excuse for consuming mass quantities of beef (sort of like excusing circumcisions), what was your point?
So you're saying you can't be healthy unless you eat meat?
No shit. |
If you're in Michigan, there's absolutely no sales tax on food.
Oh... I guess that means there are only 150 taxes on a loaf of bread (http://www.whatsbestnext.com/2009/04/151-taxes-in-a-loaf-of-bread/) then...
If you're in Michigan, there's absolutely no sales tax on food.
Oh... I guess that means there are only 150 taxes on a loaf of bread (http://www.whatsbestnext.com/2009/04/151-taxes-in-a-loaf-of-bread/) then...
Yet none of them I have to directly pay.
If you're in Michigan, there's absolutely no sales tax on food.
Oh... I guess that means there are only 150 taxes on a loaf of bread (http://www.whatsbestnext.com/2009/04/151-taxes-in-a-loaf-of-bread/) then...
Yet none of them I have to directly pay.
"directly" OK then, you indirectly pay them. Someone has to pay them, and if the retail establishment can get away with passing it onto the consumer then they'll do so.
THE SEED YOU USED TO GROW YOUR TAX FREE GARDEN WAS TAXED [...] |
Here's what I ate today [...] |
Quote from: Alex Libman Meat is for commies. |
Quote from: B.D. RossCommunism isn't generally known for putting lots of energy-intensive meat into the hands of your everyday "commie". [...]
Actually it is, and I don't just mean the biased nutrition propaganda taught in government schools, or how in a truly free market cow's milk would be way more expensive than soy milk, and beef steak would cost like 5-20x more than it does today. Communists love bribing their populace with "simple pleasures", and it was a very big deal in 1930s and 1950s USSR about the average citizen being able to afford meat. If you have milk and meat, later propaganda suggested, that means you are well off and the state is taking good care of you. Alcohol, tobacco, TV / movies, and spectator sports are other "simple pleasures" that communists love to invest in. Beats investing in things like less crowded housing, private automobiles, and consumer electronics - which truly do make people more free!
Using meat and dairy is also the easiest way to pump your citizenry full of hormones to make them more obedient - you are what you eat, and Communist leaders want their slaves to behave precisely like the cows on their way to slaughter. Most modern communists also want to reduce human population size, which makes agricultural efficiency far less important. With modern agricultural innovations a vegetarian culture can feed about 10x more people on the same amount of land, which is particularly important to small regional secession movements.
Finally there's also an issue of economic inter-dependence: a region that mostly produces meat products and imports grain and other food from somewhere else (like Estonia or New Hampshire) cannot even begin to think about independence! How well do you think the American Revolution would have went if most of the colonies' food was imported from England?!
THE SEED YOU USED TO GROW YOUR TAX FREE GARDEN WAS TAXED [...]
I can never tell - are you genuinely confused about my agorist food strategy, or are you just being an idiot on purpose?
Here's what I ate today [...]
Wrong (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=22991) thread (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=27791).
No, I want you to see the food I am enjoying while you eat cardboard flavored blah.Your food looks like puke.
No, I want you to see the food I am enjoying while you eat cardboard flavored blah.Your food looks like puke.
No, I want you to see the food I am enjoying while you eat cardboard flavored blah. |
No, I want you to see the food I am enjoying while you eat cardboard flavored blah.
My days of ordering $100 worth of Japanese taxfood delivered to my door for dinner are over and done with, by my own choice and I don't miss them one bit!
And there's nothing resembling cardboard in what I had for dinner just now! Black beans and kidney beans cooked together, mixed in like a salad with humongous quantities of plumb tomatoes ripe as a virgin's bosom, finely chopped Spanish onions, jalapeño peppers (canned with carrots, more onions, and some other vegetables), parsley, soy sauce, brown mustard, and a dozen other spices. Served with fresh whole grain bread topped with mushed avocado butter. It tastes like... freedom!
Well my big 16 oz juicy tenderloin steak I just took off the barbecue is quite satisfying. So was the glass of milk I drank with it. And so was the Guinness I drank after the milk. And so was the ice cream for desert.
There's no such thing as hell.Well my big 16 oz juicy tenderloin steak I just took off the barbecue is quite satisfying. So was the glass of milk I drank with it. And so was the Guinness I drank after the milk. And so was the ice cream for desert.
Wow, so you mixed meat with milk? You're so going to Jew hell.
There's no such thing as hell.Well my big 16 oz juicy tenderloin steak I just took off the barbecue is quite satisfying. So was the glass of milk I drank with it. And so was the Guinness I drank after the milk. And so was the ice cream for desert.
Wow, so you mixed meat with milk? You're so going to Jew hell.
It was so juicy there was still blood in it. Yum. A good red color in the middle and pink throughout and slightly seared on the outside. Seriously the best steak I've had in a long time. It was well worth the 9 bucks a pound.There's no such thing as hell.Well my big 16 oz juicy tenderloin steak I just took off the barbecue is quite satisfying. So was the glass of milk I drank with it. And so was the Guinness I drank after the milk. And so was the ice cream for desert.
Wow, so you mixed meat with milk? You're so going to Jew hell.
Well, it was juicy so there was probably still some blood in it, so Christian Hell as well.
That actually sounds right tasty. Did you bake the bread? |
And how do you make avocado butter? Just mush it? |
That sounds like Guacamole to me.
That actually sounds right tasty. Did you bake the bread?
No, not yet, but that is something I will look into in the future. Most bread you get in this country is major fail. I don't like to buy anything pre-sliced: it really does taste better if you cut it yourself, and stays fresh longer too. (Though sometimes I actually like bread that's a little firmer, as did my father before me.) German stores often have excellent rye bread, but it's usually pretty expensive for a gulcher for whom bread is a major staple. Farmer's markets sometimes have people who bake and sell excellent bread: I especially like sourdough.
And how do you make avocado butter? Just mush it?
Pretty much yeah, just cut a few ripe avocado in half, remove the pit, use a spoon to scoop out the green buttery goodness, add spices to taste, and mush (or mash?) it with a fork into a smooth spread. I usually like to add crushed garlic and a little soy sauce, but I've also tried lemon juice, chopped cilantro leaves, ground cumin, even Tabasco sauce, etc.
Another thing I often spread on bread is canned tomato paste (the thick paste, not the watered-down sauce), also mixed with crushed garlic and other spices.
I don't like thinking about it as Mexican food. The ingredients may be Mexican (except the rye bread, soy sauce, and some of the spices), but they were chosen for pragmatic reasons. Just beans and things that complement them in taste, digestion, and nutrition.So the stuff in Mexican food wasn't chosen for pragmatic reasons?
Avocado, onion, salt, pepper is the most basic gucamole. Add lemon juice so it doesnt turn brown.That sounds like Guacamole to me.
That actually sounds right tasty. Did you bake the bread?
No, not yet, but that is something I will look into in the future. Most bread you get in this country is major fail. I don't like to buy anything pre-sliced: it really does taste better if you cut it yourself, and stays fresh longer too. (Though sometimes I actually like bread that's a little firmer, as did my father before me.) German stores often have excellent rye bread, but it's usually pretty expensive for a gulcher for whom bread is a major staple. Farmer's markets sometimes have people who bake and sell excellent bread: I especially like sourdough.
And how do you make avocado butter? Just mush it?
Pretty much yeah, just cut a few ripe avocado in half, remove the pit, use a spoon to scoop out the green buttery goodness, add spices to taste, and mush (or mash?) it with a fork into a smooth spread. I usually like to add crushed garlic and a little soy sauce, but I've also tried lemon juice, chopped cilantro leaves, ground cumin, even Tabasco sauce, etc.
Another thing I often spread on bread is canned tomato paste (the thick paste, not the watered-down sauce), also mixed with crushed garlic and other spices.
So the stuff in Mexican food wasn't chosen for pragmatic reasons? |
Avocado, onion, salt, pepper is the most basic gucamole. Add lemon juice so it doesnt turn brown.I do avocados, green onions, lime juice, cilantro, tomato and garlic.
Yeah you could add other stuff too like cilantro, tomato, seasonings, peppers (various), etc.
That sounds like Guacamole to me.
(0) Please take some time to think about the logic of agorism before mocking others. |
From the "Frugal Tax Resister Diaries (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=31739.15)" thread:
(0) Please take some time to think about the logic of agorism before mocking others.
No shit, megatard. I fucking told you like a hundred times you can buy meat on the DL, and leather is nothing more than external meat. So stfu.
And I debunked your folly 101 times, and will again for as long as you continue to repeat yourself. There's simply no rational reason for a serious agorist to eat meat, given that obtaining it "on the DL" is a very wasteful and even dangerous habit. But fur and leather can come from anywhere, even an animal shot 100 years ago!
You bringing up "supply-demand" clearly demonstrates that you have no idea what's going on. If simply buying your freedom was possible then there'd be no need for any of this!Who will supply the transistors you need to eat?
And, yes, my ego (http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/self-esteem.html) is what it's all about. I don't expect others to follow my commandments, I only publicize my own thought process about what is right for me and try to lead by example.
You bringing up "supply-demand" clearly demonstrates that you have no idea what's going on. If simply buying your freedom was possible then there'd be no need for any of this!
Who will supply the transistors you need to eat? |
Supply-demand has everything to do with it. |
You keep insisting there is no valid reason for anyone to eat meat, period. |
But transistors must be manufactured. |
But transistors must be manufactured.
I wonder if Hitler had a Jewish playmate like you early in his childhood...
But transistors must be manufactured.
I wonder if Hitler had a Jewish playmate like you early in his childhood...
I don't understand what you mean.
To conform to the transistor diet, you must eat transistors. While that may be dangerous, I don't see how it would create liberty.
Chipz in mah pillz!
But transistors must be manufactured.
I wonder if Hitler had a Jewish playmate like you early in his childhood...
I don't understand what you mean.
To conform to the transistor diet, you must eat transistors. While that may be dangerous, I don't see how it would create liberty.
Transistors are made of chemical elements in Group IV in the periodic table of elements. That's stuff like silicon and germanium. I can't imagine getting a lot of nutritional value out of that. Alex, what sort of suppliments do you take to account for calcium, iron, that sort of thing? Also, do transistors have a lot of carbs?
Other forms of Agorism or Counter-Economics [...] |
Alex, what sort of [supplements] do you take to account for calcium, iron, that sort of thing |
Other forms of Agorism or Counter-Economics [...]
I believe all of the things you've listed should be legal, but some make for more effective resistance methods than others. Remember that the only reason why the governments don't just cut any dissident's throat as soon as he begins to annoy them is public opinion - they need to maintain an illusion of benevolence. The public is not going to care about tax resisters who financed themselves by pimping and selling drugs being thrown into prison for a very long time!
And, if we ever do have a secession standoff with the Feds that leads to a blockade, then agricultural self-sufficiency will be a lot more beneficial than anything else. Look at successful secession movements: U.S. Revolution, Israeli Kibbutz, etc. How successful do you think they would be if they had to import their basic survival necessities from the governments they were trying to secede from?!
Alex, what sort of [supplements] do you take to account for calcium, iron, that sort of thing
I still take above-ground store-bought vitamins that have 100% USDA of everything or more. (One pill is a great multivitamin, and another is extra calcium to be super-sure I'm getting enough.) I get enough of most micro-nutrients from vegetables and other foods, but supplements are very cheap (if you divide by days) and they ensure consistency. If you dine on beans and snack on greens, not getting enough nutrition is next to impossible!
Nice try, Shaw...
I got nuttin' but love for ya.
Deep down. Nuttin' but love.
Other forms of Agorism or Counter-Economics [...]
I believe all of the things you've listed should be legal, but some make for more effective resistance methods than others. Remember that the only reason why the governments don't just cut any dissident's throat as soon as he begins to annoy them is public opinion - they need to maintain an illusion of benevolence. The public is not going to care about tax resisters who financed themselves by pimping and selling drugs being thrown into prison for a very long time!
And, if we ever do have a secession standoff with the Feds that leads to a blockade, then agricultural self-sufficiency will be a lot more beneficial than anything else. Look at successful secession movements: U.S. Revolution, Israeli Kibbutz, etc. How successful do you think they would be if they had to import their basic survival necessities from the governments they were trying to secede from?!
Alex, what sort of [supplements] do you take to account for calcium, iron, that sort of thing
I still take above-ground store-bought vitamins that have 100% USDA of everything or more. (One pill is a great multivitamin, and another is extra calcium to be super-sure I'm getting enough.) I get enough of most micro-nutrients from vegetables and other foods, but supplements are very cheap (if you divide by days) and they ensure consistency. If you dine on beans and snack on greens, not getting enough nutrition is next to impossible!
Other forms of Agorism or Counter-Economics [...]
I believe all of the things you've listed should be legal, but some make for more effective resistance methods than others. Remember that the only reason why the governments don't just cut any dissident's throat as soon as he begins to annoy them is public opinion - they need to maintain an illusion of benevolence. The public is not going to care about tax resisters who financed themselves by pimping and selling drugs being thrown into prison for a very long time!
And, if we ever do have a secession standoff with the Feds that leads to a blockade, then agricultural self-sufficiency will be a lot more beneficial than anything else. Look at successful secession movements: U.S. Revolution, Israeli Kibbutz, etc. How successful do you think they would be if they had to import their basic survival necessities from the governments they were trying to secede from?!
Alex, what sort of [supplements] do you take to account for calcium, iron, that sort of thing
I still take above-ground store-bought vitamins that have 100% USDA of everything or more. (One pill is a great multivitamin, and another is extra calcium to be super-sure I'm getting enough.) I get enough of most micro-nutrients from vegetables and other foods, but supplements are very cheap (if you divide by days) and they ensure consistency. If you dine on beans and snack on greens, not getting enough nutrition is next to impossible!
Seems to me that you'd have to go through a lot of fiber to move those transistors through your system. |
Nice try, Shaw...
I got nuttin' but love for ya.
Deep down. Nuttin' but love.
I don't understand.
Libman you know collards need to be cooked with some type of ham product. |
[Supplement Facts nutrition label image] |
But now I'm in a war - to reclaim by body, my economic independence from evil, and my life!
Exactly.
Um, no (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32530). My respect for Shaw is purely platonic.
Libman you know collards need to be cooked with some type of ham product.
You fucking know it!
I liked ham products in large quantities and without and nasty green stuff in them. :lol:
But now I'm in a war - to reclaim by body, my economic independence from evil, and my life!
[Supplement Facts nutrition label image]
Problem solved.
Exactly.
I get more than enough vitamins from veggies, obviously, but it's nice to be sure I fill the gap on those monotone days when I mainly eat legumes and grains. I often run out of fresh greens 2-3 days after shopping, and sometimes I only bother going shopping once a week, but I do eat large quantities of fresh tomatoes and/or tomato paste, avocados, onions, peppers, etc every day though.
It actually makes sense to get some minerals from supplements: plants just get them from soil without changing them much, so why not just cut out the middle-man (or middle-lifeform) the way I do with meat. Of course there are hundreds of different nutrients, so you can't use supplements for everything, just the main essential minerals like calcium, potassium, etc - and of course vitamins D and B12.
I eat tons of vegetables, legumes, grains, mushrooms, etc. I get about 3000 calories daily, about 15% of which are from protein (more if I eat lots of beans or use soy flour, etc), and plenty of essential fatty acids from avocados, olives, etc.
I already addressed the "why not eat untaxed meat" issue above - it's psychologically easier to quit it all at once, without teasing yourself. Only then your body eventually adjusts, you stop craving meat, and your brain regains the ability to recognize how great vegetables taste.
Nope, quitting all animal products completely is the way to go, so that your tastes change. Quiting sweets, all beverages but water, and the other things I've mentioned also helps because they make you crave meat. The phrase "cold turkey (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cold+turkey)" implies quiting rapidly, which isn't necessary - I'd recommend phasing it out gradually while you learn to shop and cook in ways that are consistent with the Tax Resister Diet.
And about keeping small animals - the government thugs (or their cheerleaders (http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=25825)) could yell "animal abuse" and crack down at any time... Remember what they did to Brian Travis? :x
<h1>A collection of links to help believers notice that there is indeed plenty of room to be skeptical.</h1>
I'm a fan of science and all the methods and procedures of good science, which is why I'm on the fence regarding all the things being spouted out regarding global warming now aka "climate change." I dont think anyone is denying "climate change," the climate has changed, is changing, and will change. What we disagree on is "how it changes, how fast it changes, why it changes, and what is it changing into." The big one regarding government action should be "WHY."
First read this article, to see a broad overview of some of the problems with the climate change movement:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/the-great-global-warming-collapse/article1458206/
The UN Climate Panel frequently spouts statistics without data to back them up:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7017907.ece
Turning the situation regarding following sources into a "heard it from a friend who heard it from...who heard it from" situation.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.8d6e5773c60565dfc6e882b0a8dcbf18.4e1&show_article=1
Since the UN's panel disagreed with Indias own conflicting data on the Himalyan Ice Caps, the Indians separated and formed their own panel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7157590/India-forms-new-climate-change-body.html
Quoted from the breitbart.com article:
"No evidence could be found to show the claim had been published in a peer-reviewed journal and reports in Britain have said the reference came from green group the WWF, who in turn sourced it to the New Scientist magazine."
The Czech President also says climate change meetings are just hot air:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58L6ID20090922
OK Politics aside,
More Errors: Rising water? Scientists withdrew those claims do to errors in calculations:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/21/sea-level-geoscience-retract-siddall
The Climategate Scandal that exposed withheld and deleted scientific data and emails, which completely negates any effectiveness of a "peer review process."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_hacking_incident
CO2 Claims Inaccurate:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091230184221.htm
Taking data from multiple sources, then cherry picking the sources to take data later, then combining the data to come up with statistics (in order to adjust average temperatures to appear higher of course):
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Scientists+using+selective+temperature+data+skeptics/2468634/story.html
Global Warming and Extra CO2 Makes Trees Grow Faster:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/global-warming-makes-trees-grow-at-fastest-rate-for-200-years-1886342.html
ETC (Polar Bears, DDT, Emissions)
http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/ten-antianticommandments-and-lord-moncktons-verbal-bombs-20100201-n72y.html
Tell me which of these sites is a biased conservative news site, OK?
You can make the substrate jars with a pressure cooker or buy them online tax free! Then buy yourself some spores of tasty morels, oyster, or shitakes and you're growing.You can sterilize substrate jars without a pressure cooker. A normal pot with a lid and boiling water will work for many substrates. The substrate you use depends on the type of shrooms you are growing.
You can make the substrate jars with a pressure cooker or buy them online tax free! Then buy yourself some spores of tasty morels, oyster, or shitakes and you're growing.You can sterilize substrate jars without a pressure cooker. A normal pot with a lid and boiling water will work for many substrates. The substrate you use depends on the type of shrooms you are growing.
But it is very labor intensive, and doesn't have a good yield compared to other methods. It's good for beginners because it is easy.
This is basically the PF Tek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PF_Tek) method.
Popeye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye#Theatrical_cartoons) cartoons, tasting parties, and junior cooking classes can help increase vegetable intake in kindergarten children (http://www.medicaldaily.com/news/20100806/964/new-research-childrens-vegetable-intake-linked-to-popeye-cartoons.htm), according to new research published in the journal Nutrition & Dietetics.
Researchers at Mahidol University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahidol_University) in Bangkok found the type and amount of vegetables children ate improved after they took part in a program using multimedia and role models to promote healthy food. Twenty six kindergarten children aged four to five participated in the eight-week study. The researchers recorded the kinds and amounts of fruit and vegetables eaten by the children before and after the program.