The Tax Resister Diet

[AL the Inconspicuous]

Oh, you thought I planned on doing all the hard work myself?

LOL - hell no.  I'm a l33t coder.  That's what illegal immigrants are for. 

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Beef, it's what's for dinner.

[AL the Inconspicuous]

For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.

[TimeLady Victorious]

For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.

Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.

Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!

It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.

[Bill Brasky]

Oh, you thought I planned on doing all the hard work myself?

LOL - hell no.  I'm a l33t coder.  That's what illegal immigrants are for. 

Didn't you say something earlier on about allowing people to carry your rifle? 

One of the things about self-sufficiency is you have to be somewhat self sufficient. 

[Diogenes The Cynic]

For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.

Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!

It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.

you've had dog meat?

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

For some reason that feels like some sort of a communist slogan to my ears.

Fight the revolution against the capitalist pigdogs at home! Eat beef from the kolkhoz!

It is true that beef tastes better than pig or dog meat.

you've had dog meat?

No, but I don't imagine it tasting very well.  I think I'd try some Chow if I went to Canton though....

[AL the Inconspicuous]

Reminder:  I'm not the kind of tooty fruity vegan that believes it's wrong to kill and/or torture animals for food, clothing, decorative objects, science, sport, idle entertainment, etc - so please don't think you're accomplishing anything constructive by diluting this thread with conversations about dog meat.  Just please start your own thread, site, etc.

Didn't you say something earlier on about allowing people to carry your rifle? One of the things about self-sufficiency is you have to be somewhat self sufficient.

Securing one's personal access to rifles and other means of viable self-defence is absolutely crucial.  The ability to secure one's access to the means of manufacturing ammo and other things you may conceivably run out of someday is also important, but less so.  The ability to secure your access to widgets that are used in the equipment used to fine-tune the machines that are used to extract iron ore that's used to make rifles is also desirable, but it's a pretty low priority, because your existing supplies of rifles will probably last 200 years, and you can just melt down some old rails if you ever really needed to make more in a hurry.  You get the picture.

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

[Bill Brasky]

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

Heres a radical concept...  Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh. 

One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.   

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

Heres a radical concept...  Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh. 

One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.   

lol....

You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?

[Bill Brasky]

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

Heres a radical concept...  Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh. 

One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.   

lol....

You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?

We may be onto something here.  It does indeed sound super. 

THERE MUST BE SOME FLAW IN THIS SCHEME. 

[anarchir]

ye be wanting one of these me'thinks

[AL the Inconspicuous]

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

Heres a radical concept...  Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh. 

One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.   

lol....

You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?

We may be onto something here.  It does indeed sound super. 

THERE MUST BE SOME FLAW IN THIS SCHEME. 

What?!  A tax resistance... supermarket?!  It ain't got a chance!
You're really missing the whole point!  It's freedom to enhance!
Sure, we can have farmer's markets, and other untaxed trade,
But goal is self-reliance.  Home-grown, home-built, home-made!
You need to reread this whole thread, on how you missed a clue,
Why we should home-pickle; home-bake, home-fix, home-brew!
When we free ourselves of taxes, and stop relying on the state,
Secession would be possible, and road there would be straight!

[Bill Brasky]

The same chain of priorities applies to food security as well.  Having edible stuff stored in your "armoured compound" (as the press will inevitably call your home) is priority #1, being able to replenish those stores with nutritious plant-based foodstuffs grown on or near your property is priority #2, etc.  Not having to rely on hired labor initially to set everything up and then twice a year to plant and harvest would hardly make the top 10 list.  What are the workers going to do to sabotage your farm that your video hover-bots could miss, plant your potatoes up-side-down? 

Heres a radical concept...  Imagine if that labor was managed by someone else, and they brought a vast selection of goods to a centralized location, where you could take a small selection of perishables, pay for them, and transport them home and store them in a box that produces a suitable environment for keeping items fresh. 

One may not require vast tracts of expensive land, storage space, or worry about difficult details of agriculture or climate.   

lol....

You mean like a... SUPER MARKET?

We may be onto something here.  It does indeed sound super. 

THERE MUST BE SOME FLAW IN THIS SCHEME. 

What?!  A tax resistance... supermarket?!  It ain't got a chance!
You're really missing the whole point!  It's freedom to enhance!
Sure, we can have farmer's markets, and other untaxed trade,
But goal is self-reliance.  Home-grown, home-built, home-made!
You need to reread this whole thread, on how you missed a clue!
Why we should home-pickle; home-bake, home-fix, home-brew!
When we free ourselves of taxes, and stop replying on state,
Secession would be possible, and road there would be straight!

You're the one yammering on about cost effectiveness.  Hiring labor is not cost effective.  Especially when the resulting product of said labor is probably worth no more than 300/yr.  Beans, carrots, corn, tomatoes.  All cheap. 

Figure if you has a half-acre of beans.  Any kind, doesn't matter.  A huge bag of dried beans is like ten bucks.  The labor you'd put into creating that same bag would probly cost fifty dollars.  That stuff gets cheaper in scale because they have all the necessary machinery and ancillary apparatus. 

A ginormus bag of potatoes, ten bucks.  Harvesting that, probably about the same.  But you gotta plant and water to harvest, so double the labor on both ends of the growth cycle.  Your ten dollar bag of potatoes is 20 bucks with hired labor doing it. 

Not to mention the land is gonna cost you many thousands of dollars.

Profit only comes when you've worked off the principal investment.  It would take many years of using your own labor before you're operating in the black.