No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
Are we talking about using a Microsoft OS or buying it?No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
Yeah, agree hitler is overused.No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
I just meant if it weren't for microsoft I don't think I'd have ever have used a computer. Seemed to be about the only choice for a long time.
And, those hitler arguments sorta shut down my brain! :o
Are we talking about using a Microsoft OS or buying it?No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
Using a Microsoft OS is required for a huge number of jobs.
So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it? There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.
Microsoft is not Bill Gates. Microsoft is its products and services, many of which are excellent. |
He's NEW WORLD ORDER, umm, fuckin' reptilian lizard people bildgerberger guy, yah. Hangs out at Bohemian Rhapsody Grove having butt sex with owls and sacrificial goats........... n' stuff. Also used to snort coke off dead hookers stomachs with his friend JP Morgan.I got them in a fax!
I've got the documents!!
Yeah there are a lot of Liberal Commie I hate successful corporation flawed logic arguments floating out there against MS and Gates. But on the flip side there are legitimate reasons to not want to do business with the guy.
Overboard anti-piracy measures (OS X doesn't even require serial numbers, etc., let alone require "validation.") |
Internet Explorer sucks.... |
Pompous ass whose decided that spending more money on govt education will solve the problems caused by govt education. |
For copying the BSD TCP/IP stack bodily into Win95, then calling Linux a "cancer". Oh, but he just LOVES BSD, which he can cherry-pick from at will. What he hates is the GPL and anything licensed with it, which prevents that cherry-picking.
[...] there is still no way he can force me to buy his sub-standard products. [...] |
He's NEW WORLD ORDER, umm, fuckin' reptilian lizard people bildgerberger guy, yah. Hangs out at Bohemian Rhapsody Grove having butt sex with owls and sacrificial goats........... n' stuff. Also used to snort coke off dead hookers stomachs with his friend JP Morgan.I got them in a fax!
I've got the documents!!
Overboard anti-piracy measures (OS X doesn't even require serial numbers, etc., let alone require "validation.")
Um, Apple uses a hardware lock that prevents MacOS X from even being emulated on other hardware. Microsoft is actually very loose in their piracy enforcement compared to other companies, especially when it comes to small fish like home users. I've been pirating Microsoft software since I was 12, and I never had any trouble doing it, all the way to using all their latest online cloud services on a 100%-pirated software stack.
Yeah there are a lot of Liberal Commie I hate successful corporation flawed logic arguments floating out there against MS and Gates. But on the flip side there are legitimate reasons to not want to do business with the guy.
(1) That first sentence needs "mock quotes" around "I hate successful corporation". And a comma after "Yeah". And commas around "on the flip side". And why say "Liberal Commie" - that's redundant. :lol:
(2) When doing business with Microsoft you're not just doing business with Bill Gates, but with all the stockholders. Gates owns less than 7% of MSFT stock (http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/microsoft-corporation/msft/nas/institutional-ownership), Ballmer less than 4%, and literally millions of people own the rest. The more Gates gives away in his lame attempt to buy political power, the less significant part of Microsoft he becomes.
Nice try. It never stops me from using OS X as intended, unlike M$, which has had me "validate" at times when not possible, such as when I'm on an airplane. As I pointed out, OS X doesn't even HAVE validation. It works on the platform it was designed for without interruption of any kind.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm talking about the real world, where my clients care about "piracy" and don't want a "crack" within 1000 yards of their business.
Nice try. It never stops me from using OS X as intended, unlike M$, which has had me "validate" at times when not possible, such as when I'm on an airplane. As I pointed out, OS X doesn't even HAVE validation. It works on the platform it was designed for without interruption of any kind.
I just love it when someone trying to criticize Microsoft spells S as a dollar sign... :lol:
And you must be doing it wrong. Every Windows ISO I've pirated over the past few years was already pre-activated and never bugged me about anything, even as I pirated every Microsoft app and used every Microsoft online service. It gives you 30 DAY notice about activation, while applying an activation crack takes 10 minutes!
OS X has the worst kind of validation imaginable - you have to use Apple's overpriced hardware to run it. With that kind of restriction, they can pretty much give away the OS for free, and it would still be way more expensive and restrictive than Windows 7 Ultimate.Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm talking about the real world, where my clients care about "piracy" and don't want a "crack" within 1000 yards of their business.
Thank you for making another pro-Microsoft point for me. In the business world Microsoft would be able to establish contractual relationships with its partners and customers, and so it would make its money on the basis of contract rights. People would be willing to pay Microsoft for things that piracy can't get them: bundled hardware, bundled services, support, education, certification, access to conventions, business karma, early access, security, etc, etc, etc. It might make less money from not being able to pressure some home users, but that's a lot less money than government steals from Microsoft in taxes and regulations. Microsoft doesn't need copyright, but GPL is copyright on commie steroids!
And with all their MSDN and partner discounts, as well as student give-aways, etc - licensing costs aren't much of a burden. If you pay $3000 a year for Microsoft licensing, you're probably making an extra $50,000 a year from being a hot-shot partnered consultant, instead of just another LAMP code monkey competing with everyone from India and Nigeria...
You can mock it, but it happens. It happened to me. It was pre-activated, but when I added memory and when they changed the video card, it had to get verified again.
Your weak take that Apple software, designed for their hardware is somehow hurting someone by making sure it runs only on their hardware, is just that...weak.
this motherfucker will go DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS MOTHERFUCKING (do i repeat myseff....it bears repeatin mahseff.) MOTHERFUCKERS to exist in the history of history.
You can mock it, but it happens. It happened to me. It was pre-activated, but when I added memory and when they changed the video card, it had to get verified again.
Oh, right, well, your hardware signature changes, you have to go through the 10 minute crack process again. (Or 5 minute if you kept the crack.) The easiest step of the hardware upgrade process. (The hardest is not losing the receipt.) End of the freaking world - it is not.Your weak take that Apple software, designed for their hardware is somehow hurting someone by making sure it runs only on their hardware, is just that...weak.
A huge part of Apple's revenue is all about getting people to pay for music downloads. They have no major business services, cloud hosting services, certification, etc. So, unsurprisingly, Apple is a lot more draconian when it comes to home DRM than Microsoft.this motherfucker will go DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS MOTHERFUCKING (do i repeat myseff....it bears repeatin mahseff.) MOTHERFUCKERS to exist in the history of history.
Stop typing with your prick, prick. Bill Gates was a good guy when he was making money, but now he's just trying to buy political power, and that makes him dangerous. But, like I said, Microsoft ain't just Bill Gates - tens of thousands of very smart developers work at Microsoft or partner with it.
You want to worship generosity, worship Hitler and Stalin. Hitler died for his people dotchyaknow, and Stalin only had one uniform he wore every day. :roll:
Windows is free as in freedom - read Ayn Rand.
GNU is unfree as in communism - a plot to impose government control of the software industry.
BTW, reminder: It's World Backup Day (http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/03/31/2027254/Its-World-Backup-Day). No matter what OS you run, regular backups are imperative.
I guess you haven't been paying attention over the past couple of years as I (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=21170) consistently (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/software-freedom-scale/) advocated (http://www.google.com/search?q=libman+gpl+site%3Agentoo.org) Copyfree (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/copyfree-software/) software (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771) [6] (http://forum.nhliberty.org/index.php?topic=3102) and documented the harms of Copyleft licensing, and all the anti-capitalist left-wing bull-crap that goes with it. (Although many corporations have adapted and made a good business model on top of it, mainly to hurt Microsoft - I do always recognize technical and commercial merit where it clearly exists.)
In the meantime, I can't run a 100% pure Copyfree software yet, and I am now in the process of documenting (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/web-browser-benchmarks/) the reasons (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/linux-sucks-java-sucks-i'm-a-microsoft-guy-again!/) why it's (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/hijack-free-zone/microsoft/) better to compromise (http://copyfree.org/pipermail/discussion_copyfree.org/2011-March/000250.html) with quality proprietary software than compromise with the commies and their GPL. (Note to Objectivists: I use the word compromise in a tactical sense, I never compromise ideologically.)
Furthermore, I never paid a penny to any company on the basis of copyright, ever. I must have "pirated" millions of dollars worth of software within my lifetime. If I do business with Microsoft or Oracle, it is purely voluntary and based on other incentives that they provide in addition to "intellectual property": certification, online services, platform / "cloud" hosting, hardware bundles, etc, etc, etc. Proprietary software doesn't need intellectual property enforcement to constitute an effective business model, but Copyleft does.
None this addresses the fact that copyright is monopoly privilege backed by monopoly force. |
Copyleft isn't. |
Windows is free as in freedom - read Ayn Rand.
GNU is unfree as in communism - a plot to impose government control of the software industry.
Windows is free as in freedom - read Ayn Rand.
Windows relies upon govt copyright to prosecute those who share the software.QuoteGNU is unfree as in communism - a plot to impose government control of the software industry.
GNU relies upon govt copyright to prosecute those who try to restrict sharing of the software.
Maybe you're just deliberately confusing free, gratis and libre in order to sound like an asshole.
Yes, the BSD license is more permissive than the GPL. Permissive of assholes to be assholes with other people's work is not a good thing.
I prefer the Creative Commons licenses, but that's not what was available at the time.
Thank you for expressing what I apparently miserably failed to.
Thank you for expressing what I apparently miserably failed to.
Nonono, I wasn't in any way disparaging what you had said.
I merely consider it something that can't be said too much.
I'm saying you nailed it; really.