Reasons to Hate Bill Gates and refuse the use Microsoft OS

[libertylover]

No reasons justify not using this brilliant product!

So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it?  There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.

Are we talking about using a Microsoft OS or buying it?

Using a Microsoft OS is required for a huge number of jobs.

Yep that sure does suck having to use MS for business but that is kind of beyond most people's control as they have to work.  I am more or less only accounting for those who are purchasing it for personal use and business owners purchasing it for their business.

[Riddler]

So if Hitler had developed Windows you would still buy it?  There has to be a level at which you would refuse to purchase a person's product based on their conduct.

bill & his wife gave billion(s?) to a org. to eradicate m.s., or some disease.
plus, they gave, or are going to, a bulk of their fortune (ala buffett) to charitable/humanitarian causes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1027878/Bill-Gates-pledges-58-billion-fortune-charity--children.html

what's to hate about this guy?

[Turd Ferguson]

He's NEW WORLD ORDER, umm, fuckin' reptilian lizard people bildgerberger guy, yah. Hangs out at Bohemian Rhapsody Grove having butt sex with owls and sacrificial goats........... n' stuff. Also used to snort coke off dead hookers stomachs with his friend JP Morgan.


I've got the documents!!

[Alex Libman]

Thank you for starting this thread.   

I'm looking forward to debating this shortly.

But remember:

Microsoft is not Bill Gates.  Microsoft is its products and services, many of which are excellent.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

He's NEW WORLD ORDER, umm, fuckin' reptilian lizard people bildgerberger guy, yah. Hangs out at Bohemian Rhapsody Grove having butt sex with owls and sacrificial goats........... n' stuff. Also used to snort coke off dead hookers stomachs with his friend JP Morgan.


I've got the documents!!

I got them in a fax!

[Alex Libman]

Yeah there are a lot of Liberal Commie I hate successful corporation flawed logic arguments floating out there against MS and Gates.  But on the flip side there are legitimate reasons to not want to do business with the guy.

(1)  That first sentence needs "mock quotes" around "I hate successful corporation".  And a comma after "Yeah".  And commas around "on the flip side".  And why say "Liberal Commie" - that's redundant. 

(2)  When doing business with Microsoft you're not just doing business with Bill Gates, but with all the stockholders.  Gates owns less than 7% of MSFT stock, Ballmer less than 4%, and literally millions of people own the rest.  The more Gates gives away in his lame attempt to buy political power, the less significant part of Microsoft he becomes.

Overboard anti-piracy measures (OS X doesn't even require serial numbers, etc., let alone require "validation.")

Um, Apple uses a hardware lock that prevents MacOS X from even being emulated on other hardware.  Microsoft is actually very loose in their piracy enforcement compared to other companies, especially when it comes to small fish like home users.  I've been pirating Microsoft software since I was 12, and I never had any trouble doing it, all the way to using all their latest online cloud services on a 100%-pirated software stack.

Internet Explorer sucks....

I doubt many people here have done as much corporate AJAX development early on as I did, and have as many reasons to hate IE as I do.  Since I run Copyfree UNIX, I still literally have to rent an MS box in the cloud and remote-access it just so I could test my work with their browsers!  But IE9 is a lot better.  The next version will be better still.

Pompous ass whose decided that spending more money on govt education will solve the problems caused by govt education.

He's just buying his way into power.  Yes, that's a good reason to hate him, but I hate the suckers who fall for it even more.  Like I said, Microsoft is a lot bigger than Bill Gates.  Do you care about whoever founded Samsung or Honda or Pizza Hut?

For copying the BSD TCP/IP stack bodily into Win95, then calling Linux a "cancer". Oh, but he just LOVES BSD, which he can cherry-pick from at will. What he hates is the GPL and anything licensed with it, which prevents that cherry-picking.

Yes, Copyfree software is good for everybody, and GPL is indeed a cancer.  I've made this case in detail over a year ago, and you've never come up with any rational points against it.  A very tiny fraction of Microsoft's code came from Copyfree sources (a tiny consolation for the billions of dollars that were stolen from Microsoft and its stakeholders in taxes), and it was quickly replaced with a superior implementation of their own.  If BSD had been GPL'ed, then the evolution of the standard-compliant Internet as we know it today would have taken a bit longer...

[...]  there is still no way he can force me to buy his sub-standard products.  [...]

No one is making you buy anything (except to pay for "free software" through taxes of course, but that's a separate discussion).  And Microsoft products are not "sub-standard" - many of them are very innovative and are now pushing new ground with things like hardware acceleration, RAD cloud development, etc.

[Turd Ferguson]

He's NEW WORLD ORDER, umm, fuckin' reptilian lizard people bildgerberger guy, yah. Hangs out at Bohemian Rhapsody Grove having butt sex with owls and sacrificial goats........... n' stuff. Also used to snort coke off dead hookers stomachs with his friend JP Morgan.


I've got the documents!!

I got them in a fax!

[Cognitive Dissident]

Overboard anti-piracy measures (OS X doesn't even require serial numbers, etc., let alone require "validation.")

Um, Apple uses a hardware lock that prevents MacOS X from even being emulated on other hardware.  Microsoft is actually very loose in their piracy enforcement compared to other companies, especially when it comes to small fish like home users.  I've been pirating Microsoft software since I was 12, and I never had any trouble doing it, all the way to using all their latest online cloud services on a 100%-pirated software stack.

Nice try.  It never stops me from using OS X as intended, unlike M$, which has had me "validate" at times when not possible, such as when I'm on an airplane.  As I pointed out, OS X doesn't even HAVE validation.  It works on the platform it was designed for without interruption of any kind.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm talking about the real world, where my clients care about "piracy" and don't want a "crack" within 1000 yards of their business.

[libertylover]

Yeah there are a lot of Liberal Commie I hate successful corporation flawed logic arguments floating out there against MS and Gates.  But on the flip side there are legitimate reasons to not want to do business with the guy.

(1)  That first sentence needs "mock quotes" around "I hate successful corporation".  And a comma after "Yeah".  And commas around "on the flip side".  And why say "Liberal Commie" - that's redundant. 

(2)  When doing business with Microsoft you're not just doing business with Bill Gates, but with all the stockholders.  Gates owns less than 7% of MSFT stock, Ballmer less than 4%, and literally millions of people own the rest.  The more Gates gives away in his lame attempt to buy political power, the less significant part of Microsoft he becomes.

Ugh grammar  
While all Commies are Liberals not all liberals are Commies, some are socialist.  Possibly, I am putting too fine a point on the distinction.
Shit, only 7% did he sell off a bunch of his interest in the company?  Still a very good point about the diversity of ownership among the retirees, widows and orphans etc... 

I do dislike Gates for his Liberal agenda.  Gates donate money? pfff, more like tax write off in furtherance of his Liberal agenda.

[Fred]

he was just first with the water....

[Alex Libman]

Nice try.  It never stops me from using OS X as intended, unlike M$, which has had me "validate" at times when not possible, such as when I'm on an airplane.  As I pointed out, OS X doesn't even HAVE validation.  It works on the platform it was designed for without interruption of any kind.

I just love it when someone trying to criticize Microsoft spells S as a dollar sign...   

And you must be doing it wrong.  Every Windows ISO I've pirated over the past few years was already pre-activated and never bugged me about anything, even as I pirated every Microsoft app and used every Microsoft online service.  It gives you 30 DAY notice about activation, while applying an activation crack takes 10 minutes!

OS X has the worst kind of validation imaginable - you have to use Apple's overpriced hardware to run it.  With that kind of restriction, they can pretty much give away the OS for free, and it would still be way more expensive and restrictive than Windows 7 Ultimate.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm talking about the real world, where my clients care about "piracy" and don't want a "crack" within 1000 yards of their business.

Thank you for making another pro-Microsoft point for me.  In the business world Microsoft would be able to establish contractual relationships with its partners and customers, and so it would make its money on the basis of contract rights.  People would be willing to pay Microsoft for things that piracy can't get them: bundled hardware, bundled services, support, education, certification, access to conventions, business karma, early access, security, etc, etc, etc.  It might make less money from not being able to pressure some home users, but that's a lot less money than government steals from Microsoft in taxes and regulations.  Microsoft doesn't need copyright, but GPL is copyright on commie steroids!

And with all their MSDN and partner discounts, as well as student give-aways, etc - licensing costs aren't much of a burden.  If you pay $3000 a year for Microsoft licensing, you're probably making an extra $50,000 a year from being a hot-shot partnered consultant, instead of just another LAMP code monkey competing with everyone from India and Nigeria...

[Cognitive Dissident]

Nice try.  It never stops me from using OS X as intended, unlike M$, which has had me "validate" at times when not possible, such as when I'm on an airplane.  As I pointed out, OS X doesn't even HAVE validation.  It works on the platform it was designed for without interruption of any kind.

I just love it when someone trying to criticize Microsoft spells S as a dollar sign...  

And you must be doing it wrong.  Every Windows ISO I've pirated over the past few years was already pre-activated and never bugged me about anything, even as I pirated every Microsoft app and used every Microsoft online service.  It gives you 30 DAY notice about activation, while applying an activation crack takes 10 minutes!

OS X has the worst kind of validation imaginable - you have to use Apple's overpriced hardware to run it.  With that kind of restriction, they can pretty much give away the OS for free, and it would still be way more expensive and restrictive than Windows 7 Ultimate.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm talking about the real world, where my clients care about "piracy" and don't want a "crack" within 1000 yards of their business.

Thank you for making another pro-Microsoft point for me.  In the business world Microsoft would be able to establish contractual relationships with its partners and customers, and so it would make its money on the basis of contract rights.  People would be willing to pay Microsoft for things that piracy can't get them: bundled hardware, bundled services, support, education, certification, access to conventions, business karma, early access, security, etc, etc, etc.  It might make less money from not being able to pressure some home users, but that's a lot less money than government steals from Microsoft in taxes and regulations.  Microsoft doesn't need copyright, but GPL is copyright on commie steroids!

And with all their MSDN and partner discounts, as well as student give-aways, etc - licensing costs aren't much of a burden.  If you pay $3000 a year for Microsoft licensing, you're probably making an extra $50,000 a year from being a hot-shot partnered consultant, instead of just another LAMP code monkey competing with everyone from India and Nigeria...

You can mock it, but it happens.  It happened to me.  It was pre-activated, but when I added memory and when they changed the video card, it had to get verified again.  These were years ago, and all I remember is it did happen (as predicted by someone in media beforehand.)  Your weak take that Apple software, designed for their hardware is somehow hurting someone by making sure it runs only on their hardware, is just that...weak.

My point about cracks and "piracy" isn't your "point" at all--it's an entirely separate issue.

[Riddler]

fags,all.

did you fucking hear me?

this motherfucker will go DOWN IN HISTORY
AS ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS MOTHERFUCKING (do i repeat myseff....it bears repeatin mahseff.)
MOTHERFUCKERS
to exist in the history of history.

and YOU COMPUTER FAGGOTRY

have to squirm & whine & cunt-on & be complete douche-bags & nit-fucking-pick about what the REST OF US (ie: majority) could GIVE ONE BLUE-FUCKING, CUNT-LESS about, vis-a-vis computers.

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did i call you douchebgs or fags yet?

take that big step back & looky in the fucking mirror

over & out, computer fags

[Turd Ferguson]

[Alex Libman]

You can mock it, but it happens.  It happened to me.  It was pre-activated, but when I added memory and when they changed the video card, it had to get verified again.

Oh, right, well, your hardware signature changes, you have to go through the 10 minute crack process again.  (Or 5 minute if you kept the crack.)  The easiest step of the hardware upgrade process.  (The hardest is not losing the receipt.)  End of the freaking world - it is not.

Your weak take that Apple software, designed for their hardware is somehow hurting someone by making sure it runs only on their hardware, is just that...weak.

A huge part of Apple's revenue is all about getting people to pay for music downloads.  They have no major business services, cloud hosting services, certification, etc.  So, unsurprisingly, Apple is a lot more draconian when it comes to home DRM than Microsoft.

this motherfucker will go DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS MOTHERFUCKING (do i repeat myseff....it bears repeatin mahseff.) MOTHERFUCKERS to exist in the history of history.

Stop typing with your prick, prick.  Bill Gates was a good guy when he was making money, but now he's just trying to buy political power, and that makes him dangerous.  But, like I said, Microsoft ain't just Bill Gates - tens of thousands of very smart developers work at Microsoft or partner with it.

You want to worship generosity, worship Hitler and Stalin.  Hitler died for his people dotchyaknow, and Stalin only had one uniform he wore every day.