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Free Talk Live => The Polling Pit => Topic started by: ladyattis on January 17, 2007, 01:01:41 AM
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Just as the question says.
-- Bridget
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No, most people are not pissed off at the government as a whole. Most people are either apathetic or convinced that the political system can bring about change.
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No, most people are not pissed off at the government as a whole. Most people are either apathetic or convinced that the political system can bring about change.
Remember though, in the American Revolution, only 5% of the population was opposed to the British. The majority was either neutral [apathetic] or supported the British.
-- Bridget
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HELL FUCKING YEAH, BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I voted yes.
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I suppose my conviction is based part on my hope that change can come about by means other than armed rebellion. However, I don't think that there is anywhere near 5% of the population that is pissed off and willing to use guns to bring about change. Less than 1%, I'd say.
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I suppose my conviction is based part on my hope that change can come about by means other than armed rebellion. However, I don't think that there is anywhere near 5% of the population that is pissed off and willing to use guns to bring about change. Less than 1%, I'd say.
I would say there are 5%, but that our current state of tyranny requires a larger population that is fully moblized to dislodge it.
-- Bridget
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It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams
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It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams
Sounds good
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It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams
Sounds good
Well it came from a man who made a kickass fucking beer. It better sound good.
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I voted no. As much as some of us would like to see a revolution, I don't think it's going to happen in our lifetimes.
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I voted no. As much as some of us would like to see a revolution, I don't think it's going to happen in our lifetimes.
Extended or Unextended lifetime?
-- Bridget
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I voted no. As much as some of us would like to see a revolution, I don't think it's going to happen in our lifetimes.
Extended or Unextended lifetime?
-- Bridget
Natural.
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I voted no. As much as some of us would like to see a revolution, I don't think it's going to happen in our lifetimes.
Extended or Unextended lifetime?
-- Bridget
Natural.
Unextended then.
For me, I plan to be alive for another 2 centuries or more due to our advances in medicine and nanotechnology.
-- Bridget
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That would be pretty badass.
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If you're around by then. I mean...my mom says that the rapture is coming really soon.
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On a scale of 1-10, how batshit is your mom?
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What do you rank most conservative Christians?
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I voted for other.
At the moment I believe that pax americana will go the route of pax romana. When it does, there won't have to be an armed revolution. And I think this is going to happen relatively soon. Maybe as early as a few years, when the Feds go bankrupt from Social Security and their stubborn refusal to fixing or abolishing it, maybe after a few years, if/when a depression hits, because I also think we're close to another one of those.
I do kinda hope I'm wrong.
America isn't a powderkeg yet. When the US is a powderkeg, we'll know, and then all it'll take to set it off is one little spark.
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I agree in part only because the social climate as I've seen here in Kansas is not hostile toward the federal government. Once a universal distain for it becomes the general, and serious, 'tone' of conversation I'll bet then there won't be much time between 'talk and walk.'
-- Bridget
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I agree in part only because the social climate as I've seen here in Kansas is not hostile toward the federal government. Once a universal distain for it becomes the general, and serious, 'tone' of conversation I'll bet then there won't be much time between 'talk and walk.'
-- Bridget
I don't see that happening down south any time soon. The only places I've heard disdain for the federal government is up north near NH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkkbAyibomE&eurl=
"Well he's from Texas he's gotta be right dur dur durrr". Also, how many of those people were wearing Dallas Cowboys hats? :lol:
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Seems to be the only way you can get your freedom is from a revolt. If there is any validity behind these claims: THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY (http://www.apfn.org/APFN/bcolony.htm). Then it is even more pressing that a revolt is made and not only against the US government but against britain itself.
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I certainly hope not. I don't want to see an armed revolution. Instead, I want the change to come about as it ought to, through a gradual shifting in the general attitude of the public. The place to make this come about is academia and popular culture.
As I've pointed out before, it takes only to change the thinking of a small number of core trend-setters. Most people just follow the opinions of this group. Right now, the average person, on first hearing about libertarianism, doesn't take it seriously, as it goes against the grain of all he or she has heard. Thirty years from now, it'll be different, and the average person, when confronted with statism, will respond differently. "What? Oh, that's been tried. Everyone knows that the government that governs best governs least."
CA called in the other night with the claim that no society every changed without armed conflict. This is untrue. Canada is much the same as the U.S. in culture and freedoms, and yet never fought a revolution. The Russian people finally stood up to their Soviet masters, and the communist collapsed. The same happened all over Eastern Europe. India finally became free of Britain. It can, and does, happen without violence.
Without libertarianism being the view of a very sizable portion of the public, any armed revolt is doomed to failure. The use of violence at this point would set the movement back by decades, and perhaps destroy it altogether.
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The state will collapse financially before the political climate is ripe for revolution, if you ask me.
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I agree with Jason. The US govt. can't sustain its financial situation much longer. We ran a 750 billion dollar deficit last year. The national debt is currently about 8.7 trillion dollars, or $29,000 per capita. This debt increases by about 1.6 billion dollars per day. We could very well end up with a democratic president in '08. If congress stays democratic, we would likely end up with a catastrophic Universal Health Care service. If that happens, look for the economy to be in deep shit as well as the US govt. It seems to me that our economy can only barely suppourt the government we have, much less adding on a UHC system in a grossly overweight country.
Buy gold.
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Standing and fighting is not how victory will be achieved if/when everything gets violent. Yes, of course you should keep your powder dry, but by god, dying in the street like a dog, only to have your corpse paraded on the news as another dead kook is not a noble or worthwhile end.
Keep your mouth shut and your eyes opened. When they start talking about curfews or checkpoints in your town, grab your bugout bag. If you aren't prepared, well, good luck to you.
If you really think that hanging around and fighting a guerrilla war is what you want to do, well, good luck to you with that as well. We'll be busy getting the hell out of Dodge to help you out.
This is all wild postulation that assumes the worst scenario. I'm not assuming the worst, but I'm damn well gonna be prepared if something bad happens.
Run and hide or be a martyr.
Personally, I'd rather live for what I believe in that die for what I believe in.
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I think we'll have to fight though, only because looters only know one thing: force. It doesn't mean a knock down drag out fight, not even our Founding Fathers did that. They fought dirty, so shall we when the time comes.
-- Bridget
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I think we'll have to fight though, only because looters only know one thing: force. It doesn't mean a knock down drag out fight, not even our Founding Fathers did that. They fought dirty, so shall we when the time comes.
-- Bridget
I'll not comment apart from repeating part of my previous post:
"Keep your mouth shut and your eyes opened."
Some people are already fighting dirty. They're working smart and they aren't getting caught.
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Keep your mouth shut and your eyes opened. When they start talking about curfews or checkpoints in your town, grab your bugout bag. If you aren't prepared, well, good luck to you.
There are roadblock checkpoints and minors have legal curfews in some areas (I grew up in one of them: any minor out after dark gets a fine, a stern talking to, and a free ride home care of Officer McSmiley).
All I'm saying is that if you're just waiting for this, precedent has been set for a while. My pulled from my ass prediction for adult curfew (probably of just convicted felons at first...): 15 years.
Anyway, my $0.02 on the issue is that the right time would be after some kind of financial collapse, when people are more open to it. Right now, well, some of us might *want* it to happen now but I'm sure it would fail.
[sarcasm on]Mostly because that kind of talk makes you all terrorists--hell, it makes you enemy combatants because that kind of talk morally aides the enemy of freedom: terrorists. Which is what you are. So have fun in the gulag--I mean Gitmo.[sarcasm off]
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The state will collapse financially before the political climate is ripe for revolution, if you ask me.
Yep. Keep your real assets together, because some shit is gonna go down.
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I don't know how it's gonna hit the fan, but the old saw: "Get out of the city." has never seemed more appealing.
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I don't know how it's gonna hit the fan, but the old saw: "Get out of the city." has never seemed more appealing.
Social Security. In 2010 all the babies made from the soldiers coming home after WWII will be turning 65. It'll take a few years of inflation, and then the Feds should go completely bankrupt.
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Medicare will go bankrupt before Social Security.
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The only way you can ensure your continued food supply when the system chashes and burn is to have your own source of food. Because neither gold nor paper will buy you food. Noone want to take your gold or paper for food when everything collapses because they have no use for it or in other words they can not eat it. So get yourself a piece of farmland and replant it every year with excess of your crop. That is how you can ensure suvival when everying explodes in your face.
Because last time it came down from the heavens they made it so on a friday when the banks was closed and the next workday, their money was worth 1/100 of what it used to be. Whoops :shock:!!!
Yes, I can also see it and the my Swedish government admited that my pension would be terrible. I ain't going to invest in a lost cause. If I know I will be buying rotten apple, why would I buy it? Ain't going to happen. I better start looking for black market jobs to ensure my future.
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The 50s happened after ww2, the 60's happened cause of Nam, and the 70s were insane from overspill.
The next decade is gonna be a riot. It takes time for the generation who is service age to understand how fucked up war is, they generally have historical knowledge of it but no real experience.
Reality is sinking in, pretty soon it will be a damn loud angry opposition but it wont be revolution. It'll be enlightenment. It'll be an embrace of technology and open minded attitudes. It'll be tolerance and acceptance of other peoples personal choices.
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I don't think there will be an armed revolution any time soon... maybe right before I die. I hope if we do have one it will happen while I am young so that I will be able to survive it.
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Depends on how the government behaves. The government is behaving much more like a police state now than it did in the 60s so when people do get pissed off and start to vent their frustrations, how will the government respond to them? Our government is likely to send an armed assault team in to storm your home in order to tell you to turn your stereo down. If there is civil unrest, I'd hate to imagine how they'd respond.
Also there are less legal restrictions to the feds using troops than there was in the 1960s
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I don't think there will be an armed revolution any time soon... maybe right before I die. I hope if we do have one it will happen while I am young so that I will be able to survive it.
Agreed...but I want to have some property of my own before it happens. So, in like 8-10 years would be great.
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I hope to have land in 5 years... you can hang out there as long as you bring guns, ammo, and food.
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Not now, but when it is, the internet will play a large role.
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I hope to have land in 5 years... you can hang out there as long as you bring guns, ammo, and food.
Can I temporarily indenture myself to you if I don't? (Sex will not be used as payment.)
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Sure why not... I really wouldn't mind.
So? The sex will be a gift?
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Heh, that reminds me of the thinly-disguised Christian group that presented at my middle school who talked about one's virginity as a "gift" that you shouldn't give up until you were SURE SURE SURE it was the right person. Then half of the "good Christian girls" went and blew their boyfriends.
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But Clinton said that didn't count as sex...
So are you planning on paying me in...?
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As I've said before, good luck with that. :)
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Damnit. Well, you can just hang out, help me make moonshine, and get wasted instead. As long as you do some cleaning and work I don't care. :P
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Well, hopefully it won't come to that, but if it does, awesome.
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why go through the trouble of saving up a bunch of money to "buy" some land that the gov. can take away from you whenever they want. Even if they dont take it away from you, you still have to pay the gov rent for the rest of your life..........it doesnt seem like a very good time to buy property in amerika
so I'm not sure if you can truly own some land, but you can definitely rent some :|
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Well, since we're postulating that the government will collapse in on itself, it will no longer be capable of taking your land. You'll only have to deal with local police departments and roving fragments of the military. Eventually these will cancel each other out and free-market defense associations will develop, most likely in states with lots of civilian arms (Texas, New Hampshire, Alaska).
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How often does something like that ever occur? Almost always such a situation is solved by a dictatorship.
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The entire world will fall into chaos when the economy collapses. The Internet might even temporarily die. America is way too motherfucking big for a dictatorship to arise out of chaos to cover it. More likely, local chiefs of police and such will try to create their chiefdoms, and those of us who don't worship the State will create our own militias to defend our properties, eventually economically overtaking and crushing the dictatorial fiefdoms.
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Seems to be the only way you can get your freedom is from a revolt. If there is any validity behind these claims: THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY (http://www.apfn.org/APFN/bcolony.htm). Then it is even more pressing that a revolt is made and not only against the US government but against britain itself.
Have you read that document? I only read first 20 or so pages, the author is completely on crack.
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how long after the collapse of the economy do you think cannibalism and roving gangs of road hooligans start terrorizing everyone?
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how long after the collapse of the economy do you think cannibalism and roving gangs of road hooligans start terrorizing everyone?
Cannibalism? :)
They're might be some roving gangs, hell, I'm sure there will be. But in absence of rule of law, people will fight against them with lethal force, or form together with their neighbors into some kind of watch. Like having a large bell in the middle of the town to alert people to danger.
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well hopefully cod pieces come back into fashion after the collapse of the economy.
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Seems to be the only way you can get your freedom is from a revolt. If there is any validity behind these claims: THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY (http://www.apfn.org/APFN/bcolony.htm). Then it is even more pressing that a revolt is made and not only against the US government but against britain itself.
Have you read that document? I only read first 20 or so pages, the author is completely on crack.
I've read a little bit and I also brought forth the Declaration of Independence, the Treaty of Paris, the Treaty of Ghent and studied them. I don't know what to believe or not. It seems indeed he is on crack or something. The whole claim seems to be bullshit but this piece of legislation, Statutory Rule 1997 No. 339 The Social Security (United States of America) Order (Northern Ireland) 1997 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/sr/sr1997/Nisr_19970339_en_2.htm), leaves me wondering just what is the history behind it and if it is worth a further pursuit of research in order to better understand the juridical matters. The piece of legislation itself seems to be not much of a problem. But I never heard of anything like this before. Although Social security has been imposed on all western countries by UN which could explain this anomaly in legislation.
Hence that leaves me to wonder if the claim might possibly be true. Until recently I thought all the 50 states was the United States of America. But as I find out only the original 13 states are part of the union and the rest are territory under congress rule and the people born on territory of United States, immigrants(possibly) and black people are not "We the People" but are federal citizens which only have privileges granted by congress rather than unalienable rights. There is a slight possibility that what I have learned from common knowledge is not the real truth this time neither. But I agree it doesn't seem plausible.
I am still going to do some research on the subject and treaties though. At least I will naturalize myself with the juridical, politics and history of America. Something which I have come to enjoy very much these days. I am quite found of it actually. It is interesting and fun to learn about the history and the law.
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how long after the collapse of the economy do you think cannibalism and roving gangs of road hooligans start terrorizing everyone?
We already have roving gangs of road hooligans terrorizing everyone. They drive funny cars with weird blue lights on top.
If the government collapsed, we'd have a lot less violence.
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The whole claim seems to be bullshit but this piece of legislation, Statutory Rule 1997 No. 339 The Social Security (United States of America) Order (Northern Ireland) 1997 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/sr/sr1997/Nisr_19970339_en_2.htm), leaves me wondering just what is the history behind it and if it is worth a further pursuit of research in order to better understand the juridical matters. The piece of legislation itself seems to be not much of a problem. But I never heard of anything like this before. Although Social security has been imposed on all western countries by UN which could explain this anomaly in legislation.
It's quite simple and very obvious that he never actually read it. The title made it look like Great Britain was making law for the United States and that was enough for him. It's simply a treaty set between Great Britain, Northern Irleland, and the U.S. (actually, it's an ammendment to an existing treaty between Northern Ireland and the UK) that allows for Social Security benefits to be paid while people are living in a different country. I'm guessing that if you have Social Security and are living outside the U.S. you lose some or all of those benefits. But with this treaty you can live in Northern Ireland or the UK and keep your benefits, and vice versa.
I've read some more of his document and it doesn't even rise to the level of wrong. I want whatever he's smoking.
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I want a cod piece damnit! And feathery plumes coming off my shoulders.
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The size of your Cod piece denotes your rank. The bigger and more ornate your cod piece, the higher your rank.
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It depends on how you define "approach". Will it happen in the indeterminate future? Sure. Will it happen in the next 10 years? I really, really doubt it. In 50 years? Possibly, but I think its too soon to guess. We may never need one, which is the idea.
I see very very large problems in groups of those who would be on the rebelling side of the revolution. Many are idealists and dreamers, that expect large scale changes that require mind-set changes in the average american to happen in short periods, and won't accept any less. The groups are highly disorganized (I for one know only ONE other Libertarian here in Kansas, for example). Many people are Libertarians, and more so Anarchists, out of Image and not Principle. Hardly anyone who is NOT a Libertarian takes being a Libertarian seriously. I've been browsing the forum for only an hour or so, but I can see the things I mentioned prevalent even here. Not abundantly so, but still...
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I think it is to late for an armed revolution. If this country ever sees an armed uprising it will more resemble the bolshevic revolution than the american revolution.
Liberty minded individuals are severely outnumbered and many are unwilling to work outside of the accepted system.
revolution is just a pipe dream.
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I think we should all just kill ourselves.
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You can start first. Today.
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I'll go after everybody else.
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and try to change policies the American way?
(http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/core/pics/0001/img0024.jpg)
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red-coat
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Your "cause" is hardly equatable to te Revolutionary War.
what were the major causes of the revolutionary war?
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
Our true form looks something like this:
(http://www.badmovies.org/movies/monster/monster4.jpg)
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
no need to fear. taor's is harmless, really.
his remarks are incendiary on purpose.
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
no need to fear. taor's is harmless, really.
his remarks are incendiary on purpose.
I would never have guessed.
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Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
Let's avoid collectivizing FTL listeners to all be like Taors. 'Cause really, that's not at all fair to the rest of us, it makes us look stupid.
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Keti acts bad over the internet, but in real life...let me just say:
"UNCLE!!" :cry:
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When it comes, my time studying strategies, tactics, firearms, and military history will come full-circle.
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Agreed, comrade.
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Not really. We keep ourselves entertained.
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I don't like being opressed by the government. But an armed conflict will not help unless I am cornered and will have no other choise. It will definetly not help to enlighten the public about the opression they don't recognize. Come on, in the dark ages the tenants had a 30% taxation or if they would not manage a 30% taxation as much as their masters could take and still have the tenants survive. What do we have today? How many more rules are there today? So I did vote yes even though I personally wouldn't initiate force, nahaa! Never!
It is ridiculus and the government is from my perspective not even trying to keep to their constitutional limits and that makes me sad but not suicidal nor angry... Just sad and helpless.
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Killing (for the most part) innocent people is not going to change anything
Say's the aspiring SWAT member.
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He got a gun an' he gonna ude it! Remember, you consented!
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Then why not find a peaceful solution? How about some leaders in the libertarian party get elected and have voice in Congress? Killing (for the most part) innocent people is not going to change anything or help your cause. Most people in the "Government" are just people with normal jobs. My friend's mom does accounting at the local city hall. You're going to shoot her? Get real people.
The people you need to focus your energy on are the people in the upper ranks. The people calling the shots. And those people are not local officials, not cops, not anyone at the city or even state level. It's the White House, and Congress. Those are the people you need to lobby and get your message through to.
The government is making the prospects of a peaceful solution more and more difficult every day. Everyday they are cutting off the avenues of peaceful change and they are becoming more despotic.
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
If someone wanted to find you, they could. For example, your school address and phone number were very easy to find with just the information you've provided on this forum. I'm sure someone with a really strong interest could find a lot more. Be safe, my rule of thumb on the internet is don't put information out there that you wouldn't want someone trying to kill you to know. Also be very weary of social engineering. A quick hop to hotmail.com tells me that an attacker would only need to know one more bit of information that you haven't given out (afaik, I haven't read your myspace) already to get into your e-mail.
But people here seem chill, I'm not saying this as a warning or anything, just a general caution about private information.
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If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
Now you're getting it.
Wow, I'm glad you guys don't know where I live. You're some scary SOB's.
If someone wanted to find you, they could. For example, your school address and phone number were very easy to find with just the information you've provided on this forum. I'm sure someone with a really strong interest could find a lot more. Be safe, my rule of thumb on the internet is don't put information out there that you wouldn't want someone trying to kill you to know. Also be very weary of social engineering. A quick hop to hotmail.com tells me that an attacker would only need to know one more bit of information that you haven't given out (afaik, I haven't read your myspace) already to get into your e-mail.
But people here seem chill, I'm not saying this as a warning or anything, just a general caution about private information.
And which high school did I go to? Is "Zachary Bohlman" my real name? Do you think a law enforcement professional needs preaching on confidentiality and online safety? Sorry, nice try.
Dude, you have your picture on your eBay profile. Your myspace has your pic. Your school RHA thing has your pic. Unless you've completely jacked this "Zachary Bohlman" guy's picture, then you *are* zbohlman.
According to your myspace, you went to Lakeville Sr. 2002-2005, clubs including Track, Latin Dance Club, Spanish Club. You might be making this up or recently chagned your myspace, but I'm willing to bet there aren't many high schools in Lakeville MN.
You currently go to MNSU and at some point worked currently work as an RA. http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~rha/people.htm
According to your e-mail address on the above page, it was trivial to search your school directory for your personal information (address and phone #).
I suppose it's possible that you've either made up an entire fake online persona, or that you've stolen your information (and profile pics) from a real Zachary Bohlman, but I don't think that's likely, considering your information on your school's webpages. Everything on google matches up to the same kind of authoritarian religious person that you portray on this site, not to mention your picture splattered all over everything.
All I'm saying is that if you put enough info out there, people can figure out who you are. You were easy.
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This is what we call 'owned'.
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I could only find my legal name popped up on an online petition for American Atheists. LOL!
-- Bridget
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The top results for my name in Google are half news articles about my 6' tall fake bong I built and used as part of a drug legalization protest in my campus' central square (Red Square, ironically enough) on 4/20 last year, and half changelog entries referencing a spelling error I corrected in a fortune-mod package. I'm sure once I graduate potential employers will have a field day with that.
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That's why you use fake names. I'm so evil because that's what I do. I add noise to the 'Net. ;)
-- Bridget
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Fake names sux.
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so bonerjoe is your real name?
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D'oh.
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The top results for my name in Google are half news articles about my 6' tall fake bong I built and used as part of a drug legalization protest in my campus' central square (Red Square, ironically enough) on 4/20 last year, and half changelog entries referencing a spelling error I corrected in a fortune-mod package. I'm sure once I graduate potential employers will have a field day with that.
"It says here that you once edited the 'offensive fortunes' file while smoking marijuana from a giant bong..."
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Your "cause" is hardly equatable to te Revolutionary War.
You're right. The government is a lot worse these days than it ever was back then.
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Your "cause" is hardly equatable to te Revolutionary War.
Yeah the revolutionary war was fought to resist tyrrany. To stop destruction of life and government theft of property. Yeah that is way different than fighting these things today. :?
If someone is wearing a uniform, you guys vote guilty until proven guiltier. If anyone is involved in the government, we may as well hang them from the nearest tree because they're "part of the problem, not the solution."
When you willfully serve the tyrants you are just as guilty as the tyrants you serve.
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Unless most Americans agree to libertarian principles, a revolt is doomed to failure. If most Americans DO agree, then an armed revolution is unneeded.
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Why would it be doomed to failure?
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Why would it be doomed to failure?
For the same reason you can't impose democracy in Iraq--or any society unwilling to embrace it.
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the revolution is going to be different this time around, i think.
The last thing anyone would want to see is various regions of the US engulfed in civil conflict...in the 21st century? it would be devastating. tragic....surreal, in comparison to what we've become conditioned to.
And i do think that this country is on the brink of a revolution, or at least, i do sincerley hope so.
And i like to think that the seeds of that revolution have already been sown, in the form of the FSP.
Since we are such a small minority, in the whole scheme of things...we would be doomed if we took to the streets.
but the time is so right to try something different this time around, and something that can be acheived by such an insignificant minority.
think of our oversight into the realm of technology that allows us to be interconnected across such a vast area. ideas and opinions are able to spread like wild-fire via blogs, chat-forums, websites, pod-casts...whatever.
and we've been enlightened by the non-violent resistance of the likes of ghandi, and MLK...
as we watch our govt. get progressivly more evil, week by week, month by month, year by year, i think we'll start to see a little bit of more interest being taken into the state of affairs in NH.
slowly but surely, more people moving in, taking action, making a difference...perhaps one day demanding their independence.
At that point, if the feds want to throw down, the blood of what ever conflict ensues will be on their hands...and i certainly hope that it does not have to boil down to that...
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You're a true poet, Baker.
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tahnkes. and not bad for being stoned at three in the morning, too.
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You posted that at 1 AM. Damn you really were stoned...
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damn.. you're right.
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Wish I had some.
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me too.,
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You have more connections than I do.
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how would you know?
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Because you smoked last night. I haven't smoked in a month 1/2 and that was at a friend's party.
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damn dude...
i honestly don't have so many hook-ups, as it were...but it is fairly easy to find when you know somebody who knows somebody, and its all in close proximity.
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what happened to your trip to the movies? and the bluntfest
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We're still waiting for June to get here...
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you make plans to go to the movies 4 months in advance?
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That's when we're all going to be together, and summer is the time of popcorn movies.
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they play movies projected onto the side of a building in one of the city parks in appleton throughout the summer..
every wednesday night is like a giant orgy comprised of the metro's youth.