Hey now, I didn't mean for semantics to get in the way here. I'm simply wondering if there is a point to finding common ground. I know there are anarchists in the Tea Party movement, but I have been thinking it is pointless as many of them believe in the existence of the state. Whether or not they desire a minimal state, they still believe in the legitimacy and desirability of some arbitrary state involvment.
It's like being an abolitionist, it's difficult to find common ground with someone who only wishes to provide better treatment for slaves but not recognizing their freedom in the first place.
Just to be clear, and I appreciate the clarification, my irate posts were not in response to you at all--the first question was, and I appreciate the response. Your response seems sensitive to my point (probably your original point.)
I'm not sure there's any real value in trying to find much common ground, except to realize if they're close enough to what we'd consider real liberty (and you'll learn this on a one-to-one basis, over time) they're probably worth at least keeping in contact with and bouncing ideas off of. Some of them get calcified, as you'll see with various posters here. However, some of us actually
change over time, and for many of us, that means becoming more stateless.
My libertarian "mentor" became anarchist around the time I was coming around to only "essential services" (military, courts, cops, IP and that's about it.) I think when I accepted that IP was silly, especially as a state function, it was easier to see that the overt violence wing of the state was unlikely to be the best way to get what I wanted, and a paper on free market justice and defense broke the camel's back. Discussion with him about these issues (and reading what he sent) probably advanced me several years, in terms of struggling to "get where I am now."
Nevertheless, sending anarchist literature to minarchists and arguing with them about it may have the same negative effect that prosthelytizing full-on statists has, so treading lightly is probably advised (I mean--you know how their statism annoys you.)
Still, I don't want to make light of the value minarchists bring. They probably communicate better with full-on statists, and there are benefits to a less abusive master, if and when they can manage it (insert MMJ message, etc., here.) It's just that you and I tend to be jaded and we tend to see almost as much harm in appeasing the state as help.