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Title: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 11:53:43 PM
Pork rinds?

We bought a couple bags of cracklins a but back and I fried them up in a pan with oil. Shit turned into mini pork rinds. Was figuring that rinds without sugar added would almost fit onto the paleo radar.

Next question - Has anyone ever bought the buckets of pork pellets for making rinds?
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 09:03:49 AM
It's meat. Of course it's OK.

But if you're going to fry them, fry them in lard. You should avoid any oil sourced from grain.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: Osborne on November 04, 2011, 11:05:24 AM
Surely he means coconut oil, dude. He's on our team.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 11:09:51 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the paleo diet stuff is just a fad?

<-- not an expert
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: John Shaw on November 04, 2011, 11:59:18 AM
I dunno what you mean by fad.

We've been on for two weeks and I am, without trying to, eating about 1/3 of what I used to. Maybe 1/4. It appears that I've lost about 12 pounds.

I have yet to feel hungry. As a matter of fact, while eating between 1/3 and 1/4 of the food I used to eat I have been stuffed after every meal.

The only times M has felt hungry have been when she has to drive in to work and she hasn't been able to get enough fat content in her food. (Something we're working out with variations on recipes.)

Too soon yet for me to call it a success, but it seems to be working so far.

I used to be able to cook up and eat two boxes of Rice-A-Roni or two boxes of Kraft Mac and Cheese and add meat to it and eat the whole thing myself. Now I'm eating a piece of meat, maybe six ounces, a couple half handfuls of veggies, and maybe a cup of fruit. The veggies are usually either fried or dipped in my home made paleo baba ghanoush.

Last night was steak, sweet potato fries, (About half of a good sized sweet potato between the two of us.) fried carrots and garlic cloves. I added a few Brussels sprouts and some mustard greens for me. (M is not a fan)

We're experimenting with shish kabob baked with lard and/or coconut oil. First attempt was a hit.  
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 12:40:15 PM
Surely he means coconut oil, dude. He's on our team.

Well, I was just making sure.

I need to order a pail of that grass fed tallow.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 12:44:00 PM
John, you might want to look into getting EzSweetz as an artificial sweetener if you're having sugar cravings at all. It's the best tasting stuff out there, including Stevia, and I've tried everything. It's basically Splenda without the dextrose filler (that I think makes it have that nasty bitter aftertaste, IMHO).

It's $22 for 3 bottles of 450 servings each on Amazon. I'm finally at the end of my first bottle, and I've used it tons in the last two months.

http://www.ez-sweetz.com/servlet/StoreFront (http://www.ez-sweetz.com/servlet/StoreFront)

http://www.amazon.com/Packs-0-5-Liquid-Sweetener-Servings/dp/B003LECIDE (http://www.amazon.com/Packs-0-5-Liquid-Sweetener-Servings/dp/B003LECIDE)

It totally makes my life easier with adding sweetness to espresso, iced tea, and recipes like Panang curry.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: John Shaw on November 04, 2011, 12:52:59 PM
I'll have to check it out.

I've only had one craving, and that was last night for about five minutes.

I seriously wanted a fucking Toffifay. Ate some pork cracklings and was fine in ten minutes.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
My diet consists of meat and naked fruit juice.

My workout routine consists of chatting up college girls at the nearby gym.

Maybe I'll write a book and make a bucket full of FRNs
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
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We've been on for two weeks and I am, without trying to, eating about 1/3 of what I used to. Maybe 1/4. It appears that I've lost about 12 pounds.

Well I can't argue with success!
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on November 04, 2011, 04:54:45 PM
My diet consists of meat and naked fruit juice.

My workout routine consists of chatting up college girls at the nearby gym.

Maybe I'll write a book and make a bucket full of FRNs
rofl, sounds like my life.  Except I don't chat them up at the gym.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
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rofl, sounds like my life.  Except I don't chat them up at the gym.

Chatting them up sounds metro and lame anyhow. I spit fierce game.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: mikehz on November 04, 2011, 06:41:43 PM
Yeah, this paleo diet is just this year's fad. In any case, why on earth would I think it a good idea to eat like people did when the life expectancy was only about thirty years? 
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
Yeah, this paleo diet is just this year's fad. In any case, why on earth would I think it a good idea to eat like people did when the life expectancy was only about thirty years? 

9_9
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: SeanD on November 04, 2011, 11:40:40 PM
Yeah, this paleo diet is just this year's fad. In any case, why on earth would I think it a good idea to eat like people did when the life expectancy was only about thirty years? 

Easier to live longer when you don't have to duck them nasty ass sabertooth tigers and shit.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: Branlin on November 05, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
Pork rinds?

We bought a couple bags of cracklins a but back and I fried them up in a pan with oil. Shit turned into mini pork rinds. Was figuring that rinds without sugar added would almost fit onto the paleo radar.

Next question - Has anyone ever bought the buckets of pork pellets for making rinds?

I used to raise and process hogs for home use "in an earlier life."

The actual definition of "cracklin's" is the residue left over from rendering lard. Meaning, taking pieces of pork fat and cooking them down until you get the browned residue, or "cracklin's," and the clear liquid called "lard." (beef "lard" is called tallow). It really stinks the house up when rendering, but lard or tallow are the best type of oil to use for cooking. I make my tallow from grass-fed buffalo fat.

The cracklins I see in bags with chips, pretzels, etc. I don't think are true cracklins.

Some people call the dark brown crisped skin when roasting a hog "cracklins", which is also incorrect.

So, it's hard to answer your question without knowing what store bought "cracklins" actually are.

As for "paleo" food: anything that humans ate before agriculture was invented around 10,000 years ago would be paleo food. I'm not a fanatic about it, but to me bacon, ham, or any cured meat would not be considered "paleo", although any other kind of meat would be.

Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: Branlin on November 05, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the paleo diet stuff is just a fad?

<-- not an expert

IMO, the term "paleo lifestyle" IS a fad. However all it means is eating and living like we did in our natural state -- before agriculture.

Humans have been around for about 3 million years, and we lived "natural" for about 2,990,000 years. Going by that, I don't think living in our natural state is a "fad."
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: John Shaw on December 03, 2011, 07:21:51 AM
UPDATE -

Invented a hot dog bun.

3/4 cup almond flour (I'm making my own on demand because we're getting raw almonds for 3.69 a pound at Randazzos. Buying three or four bags a week to stock up at those prices.)

2 tablespoons coconut flour

4 eggs

1 tablespoon oil of choice. (I used lard)

1 teaspoon of baking powder. (Get the cream of tartar kind rather than the starch kind I guess)

Mix all that shit up and dump it equally into a mini loaf pan. Ours holds four little loafs. Then actually stick your hot dogs right in there on top. Bake 'em at 350 for 30 minutes.

Shit was so cash. It looked like the bread was growing right around the dog. Form fitting and shit. Next time I'll take pictures. Tasted like a cross between a hot dog + bun and a corn dog. Adding some salt would prolly make it more corn-dog-like. Was a tiny bit dry so I'll have to figure out a way to keep moisture in or something.

Will prolly fine tune it so there's even less bun, but that was the pan we could find to try it out with. Couls have prolly made six dogs worth of bun with this recipe.

Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: Turd Ferguson on December 03, 2011, 08:58:11 AM

 Was a tiny bit dry so I'll have to figure out a way to keep moisture in or something.


Try baking it just a few minutes less next time. Makes alot of difference. I used to have this bread maker that had reccomended cooking times in the little book that came with it and when I used that on sourdough bread, it came out dry as a desert, utter shit, so I knocked 3 minutes off, and it came out perfect.
Title: Re: Question for Paleo people.
Post by: BonerJoe on December 03, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
John, try seperating the eggs and whipping up the eggwhites to stiff peaks. Makes a more fluffier bun-like texture.