Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[Cognitive Dissident]

The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is.

Other options -

1. Get away from the bear.

2. Evade the bear.

3. Avoid the bear.

4. Obfuscate oneself against the bear.


Aight, that's all the same thing, but it BEARS repeating.

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Or become a bear (not recommended). I suggest evasive action. Drive around the roadblock, place signs warning citizens of armed roadblock and offer a detour.

Also, easy on the violence WTFK.

What violence?  Show me where I'm violent.  I'm not channeling The Joker or anything.

[AntonLee]

the state is getting despirate if they're rounding up bears to do sobriety checkpoints.  Until then, they're still humans.  Besides, you can shoot bears when they are threatening you.  You can't do that to police, well you could, but bears can't put you in a jail cell.  I would much rather deal with a bear than a cop, at least i have a fighting chance with a bear.

[Cognitive Dissident]

the state is getting despirate if they're rounding up bears to do sobriety checkpoints.  Until then, they're still humans.  Besides, you can shoot bears when they are threatening you.  You can't do that to police, well you could, but bears can't put you in a jail cell.  I would much rather deal with a bear than a cop, at least i have a fighting chance with a bear.

Which is why I said "If it is a bear, and it is chasing you..."

Clearly, they are not bears (colloquialisms and bad 70's pop culture aside), nor are they chasing, which is why "if" comes to play.  Since they are not bears, the remedies are likely different.  Though The Hague is a state solution, it was recognized as superior to just killing all the Nazis, and even made famous the notion that "just doing my job" is not an excuse.  This is not to compare alcohol checkpoints with National Socialism, however tempting, but to compare possible solutions with the peculiarity of the problems.  Few people would argue with the 10mm solution to the bear, or The Hague solution to the fascism, though many people here probably do fall outside both tolerances.

If you like getting mauled by the bear, poke the bear.

If you do not like getting mauled by the bear, do not poke the bear.

If it is a bear, and it is chasing you, then the "poking" part doesn't come in to play.  The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is.  I don't have the answers, but pretty soon it's going to be necessary to learn from Colonel Cooper and identify the environment we're in.

[voodoo]

This is relevant to this discussion (and funny, too):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M&feature=player_embedded

[Turd Ferguson]

Typically, when someones line is crossed by a government or dictatorship, its far too late to do anything about it that will make a difference. There are exceptions, but they are rare.

Best you can hope for is for the state be crushed under its own weight and naturally disolve. This will happen.

[Cognitive Dissident]

This is relevant to this discussion (and funny, too):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M&feature=player_embedded

Interestingly, both responses lead to the same result.

Typically, when someones line is crossed by a government or dictatorship, its far too late to do anything about it that will make a difference. There are exceptions, but they are rare.

Best you can hope for is for the state be crushed under its own weight and naturally disolve. This will happen.

It often seems comforting to know that a state will fall, but often, something worse springs up in its place.  Examples: the Shaw of Iran, the Czars, Saddam Hussein (probably.)  Occasionally, it goes the other way: Vietnam, Cuba, China.  It's not that allowing communism to "flourish" was good, it's that it was allowed to not flourish.  Besides, Vietnam and Cuba may well be examples "threats" that became somewhat obviously harmless to people in the U.S., where there was much fear of them.

[sillyperson]

I don't support just being the state as the state's bitch, as you do

Don't put words in my mouth that I never said. I don't support being the state's bitch.

Unlike the Children of Keene, full of emotion and wanting results NOW, I am interested in WINNING. Whether or not it feels good in an immediate, "yell-at-the-cops" kinda way.

Let's say that I am involved in:
a) training bears to be afraid of humans
b) training humans in how to control bears
c) reducing the bear population overall

But hey, it sure feels like you're "doing something" when you poke a stick in that bear's eye...

[AntonLee]

the only bears I've seen in NH is out near Grafton and Clark's Trading Post.  That's right, we're still just dealing with humans here. 

[John Shaw]

the only bears I've seen in NH is out near Grafton and Clark's Trading Post.  That's right, we're still just dealing with humans here. 

I saw a bear at Porcfest, last year. He be sittin' on the lip of one of the garbage dumpsters as I was driving by it. Was a black bear.

I am for serious. Wasn't huge, was a lil' bear. Just chillin' on the dumpster.

[sillyperson]

Bears shit in the woods just behind my house

[BonerJoe]

So, apparently Dale and Rich's movie has been put on hold until next spring because of an irresponsible cast member/sorta-Free Keene person with a staph/flesh eating bacteria infection that she's known about for 5 months. Most of the footage will probably have to be re-shot. Sux.

[Turd Ferguson]

.........cast member/sorta-Free Keene person with a staph/flesh eating bacteria infection that she's known about for 5 months.

Hell, you've got yourself a movie right there.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I don't support just being the state as the state's bitch, as you do

Don't put words in my mouth that I never said. I don't support being the state's bitch.

Unlike the Children of Keene, full of emotion and wanting results NOW, I am interested in WINNING. Whether or not it feels good in an immediate, "yell-at-the-cops" kinda way.

Let's say that I am involved in:
a) training bears to be afraid of humans
b) training humans in how to control bears
c) reducing the bear population overall

But hey, it sure feels like you're "doing something" when you poke a stick in that bear's eye...

Oh, master, please stop beating me that way, and beat me this way instead!

[dalebert]

Hell, you've got yourself a movie right there.

It will likely provide a bit of material for a mini-series of webisodes about some colorful and exaggerated Free-Stater characters.  These we can shoot in chunks so it won't be quite as involved as a feature-length movie, though I'm still looking forward to doing that when we have the weather we need again.  Unfortunately, this happened when we had only exactly enough time left to get done and now we can't possibly finish shooting before Fall.

[AntonLee]

the only bears I've seen in NH is out near Grafton and Clark's Trading Post.  That's right, we're still just dealing with humans here. 

I saw a bear at Porcfest, last year. He be sittin' on the lip of one of the garbage dumpsters as I was driving by it. Was a black bear.

I am for serious. Wasn't huge, was a lil' bear. Just chillin' on the dumpster.

holy shit!