Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[AntonLee]

not sure what that has to do with someone going through a suspicionless checkpoint.  While I agree he shouldn't have to show his license to cops (and shouldn't have to have a license anyways) I'm not sure if he thought that he didn't have to according to their laws.

Either way, suspicionless checkpoints are bullshit, and most people can agree that they don't want to be stopped by them.  At least most people I know have no problem stopping people when they're drunk. . . they don't want blanket checkpoints like this.  I think anti-suspicionless checkpoint activism is valuable and can get some people on your side.

[sillyperson]

suspicionless checkpoints are bullshit

Yep.
And lots of people in NH agree with that.
About the only way to ensure they'll continue forever is to have "martyrs" for the cause who, frankly, come off as people that the average person would say needed locking up in the first place, if for no other reason than not having the sense not to poke a bear's eye with a stick.

[AntonLee]

I disagree with his tactic personally.  I just realize that bad people will harm you because you don't want to show them a piece of plastic with your picture on it.  Some people choose to not give in to other meatsacks.  I think it would have been better to document them, hold signs warning others about suspicionless checkpoints.

[Turd Ferguson]

One or two cars going through a checkpoint not showing ID isnt going to do much, but if you could get regular joe six pack types, moms, grandmas, etc and other "normal" people to line up 50 cars deep and refuse to show ID, it would sure make for a bad day for the cops running the checkpoint and might be worth doing. Question is, how do you convince people to grow some balls to do something on a somewhat large scale like this? Safety in numbers should be enough to convince these types to do CD like this. If only they would think about it.

[Cognitive Dissident]

suspicionless checkpoints are bullshit

Yep.
And lots of people in NH agree with that.
About the only way to ensure they'll continue forever is to have "martyrs" for the cause who, frankly, come off as people that the average person would say needed locking up in the first place, if for no other reason than not having the sense not to poke a bear's eye with a stick.

I support living as a free person in the face of fascism.  I don't support just being the state as the state's bitch, as you do, though.  It baffles me where you choose to draw the line.  I see this as a whole lot better than deliberately disrupting their little get-togethers by pretending to get inebriated on site.

[John Shaw]

If you like getting mauled by the bear, poke the bear.

If you do not like getting mauled by the bear, do not poke the bear.

[Cognitive Dissident]

If you like getting mauled by the bear, poke the bear.

If you do not like getting mauled by the bear, do not poke the bear.

If it is a bear, and it is chasing you, then the "poking" part doesn't come in to play.  The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is.  I don't have the answers, but pretty soon it's going to be necessary to learn from Colonel Cooper and identify the environment we're in.

[anarchir]

I'm for not getting caught, and when you do, then get groups of freestaters to help you.

[John Shaw]

The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is. 

Other options -

1. Get away from the bear.

2. Evade the bear.

3. Avoid the bear.

4. Obfuscate oneself against the bear.


Aight, that's all the same thing, but it BEARS repeating.

THANKSTRYTHEFISHI'MHEREALLWEEK!

[Cognitive Dissident]

The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is. 

Other options -

1. Get away from the bear.

2. Evade the bear.

3. Avoid the bear.

4. Obfuscate oneself against the bear.


Aight, that's all the same thing, but it BEARS repeating.

THANKSTRYTHEFISHI'MHEREALLWEEK!

That reminds me of a story.

There's two nature lovers resting at the summit of a mountain after a nice hike to the top.  They're enjoying a little feast they'd packed in their back packs, and their shoes and shirts are off, and they're stretching in the sun.  Suddenly, one reaches for his shoes, in a hurry to put them on.  The other looks at him, then looks around and sees a bear, lumbering toward them at an alarming distance.

He looks to his partner and says "Are you crazy?  You cannot outrun that bear!"

His partner replies "Hell no, but I can outrun you!"

[TimeLady Victorious]

If you like getting mauled by the bear, poke the bear.

If you do not like getting mauled by the bear, do not poke the bear.

If it is a bear, and it is chasing you, then the "poking" part doesn't come in to play.  The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is.  I don't have the answers, but pretty soon it's going to be necessary to learn from Colonel Cooper and identify the environment we're in.

If you're talking about William Cooper, then I'm sure the answer is to wildly shoot at them and perhaps beat someone up with a crowbar.

[Cognitive Dissident]

If you like getting mauled by the bear, poke the bear.

If you do not like getting mauled by the bear, do not poke the bear.

If it is a bear, and it is chasing you, then the "poking" part doesn't come in to play.  The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is.  I don't have the answers, but pretty soon it's going to be necessary to learn from Colonel Cooper and identify the environment we're in.

If you're talking about William Cooper, then I'm sure the answer is to wildly shoot at them and perhaps beat someone up with a crowbar.

I was referring to Marine Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Cooper, who devised a color code to help armed people track awareness of the dangers around them and the readiness that one may need to be in the proper mindset to assert himself in an armed encounter.

[anarchir]

The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is. 

Other options -

1. Get away from the bear.

2. Evade the bear.

3. Avoid the bear.

4. Obfuscate oneself against the bear.


Aight, that's all the same thing, but it BEARS repeating.

THANKSTRYTHEFISHI'MHEREALLWEEK!

Or become a bear (not recommended). I suggest evasive action. Drive around the roadblock, place signs warning citizens of armed roadblock and offer a detour.

Also, easy on the violence WTFK.

[LTKoblinsky]

The question is whether the answer is 10mm, playing dead, or convincing the bear that you're more formidable than he is. 

Other options -

1. Get away from the bear.

2. Evade the bear.

3. Avoid the bear.

4. Obfuscate oneself against the bear.


Aight, that's all the same thing, but it BEARS repeating.

THANKSTRYTHEFISHI'MHEREALLWEEK!

Or become a bear (not recommended). I suggest evasive action. Drive around the roadblock, place signs warning citizens of armed roadblock and offer a detour.

Also, easy on the violence WTFK.

Or we could just hold their hands and put daisies in their hair?

[John Shaw]

Or we could just hold their hands and put daisies in their hair?

You first.