http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13322.msg229025#msg229025
It's not my plan, I just report.http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13322.msg229025#msg229025
It sounds like someone cheated on someone with someone else. Shitty, yes. But how does this fit into your master plan of how the FSP is doomed?
first ever Free State move-out party will be held shortly.
Sharon Ankrom has been sleeping with Bill Walker for the past month.
QuoteSharon Ankrom has been sleeping with Bill Walker for the past month.
:roll:
After finishing the entirety of the thread over on NHUnderground so far, I think I see why so many people are upset at the slut. I'm going to call her the slut because I can't figure out what her actual name is and why she has more than one. Still, I don't think I'd want the tubes clogged with a mess about my cheating husband.
The sucky part is I think they all have kids.We're not just fuckin'... we're fuckin' for freedom!
I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?The sucky part is I think they all have kids.We're not just fuckin'... we're fuckin' for freedom!
I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?
Now they just make the guy pay.I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?
Yeah, because it was so much better when the government could force you to remain bound.
Now they just make the guy pay.I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?
Yeah, because it was so much better when the government could force you to remain bound.
You can call alimony and child support freedom if you want to.
geez, people cheat on each other in NH?????or free staters fuck eachother over
Now they just make the guy pay.I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?
Yeah, because it was so much better when the government could force you to remain bound.
You can call alimony and child support freedom if you want to.
Russel considers it freedom.
They are not trying to take over a state.
as if friends don't fuck each other over in every other state and country in the entire world.
yea...I think he said he $120,000 in the rears for child support.
geez, people cheat on each other in NH?????or free staters fuck eachother over
nice group of "friends"
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=7555.msg133707#msg133707Interesting how many of the accounts on that thread are deleted
would it be out of the realm of reason to think that the feds are planting smokin' hot harlots* into the movement in an effort to break up families and cause distractions?Totally stupid idea.
*is she even hot?No.
What is a thread?http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=7555.msg133707#msg133707Interesting how many of the accounts on that thread are deleted
would it be out of the realm of reason to think that the feds are planting smokin' hot harlots* into the movement in an effort to break up families and cause distractions? you know...totally suck as much energy out of the movement as possible?
Isn't she the same chick that had some weirdness going on with NHArticleTen?
Isn't she the same chick that had some weirdness going on with NHArticleTen?
I'd like to know who that space cadet in his avatar is.
It's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Its been stated she's not hot, according to Denis who I presume knows quality poontang when he sees it. If she were hot, I'd make a mental note of it and file it under "possible to put my cock in" if I ever happen to make my way to NH for some event...
Its been stated she's not hot, according to Denis who I presume knows quality poontang when he sees it. If she were hot, I'd make a mental note of it and file it under "possible to put my cock in" if I ever happen to make my way to NH for some event...
Denis has good judgment. : )
Do yourself a favor and scrub that mental note....I can't seem to post a picture, or I could share what this "hottie" looks like....
Hey .... that must be me you are talking about. Why do I lose a small 'l' when people don't like me?Now they just make the guy pay.I guess some people look at divoce as freedom :?
Yeah, because it was so much better when the government could force you to remain bound.
You can call alimony and child support freedom if you want to.
Russel considers it freedom.
yea...I think he said he is $120,000 in the rears for child support.
I would guess that is why he doesn't have a drivers license. The state takes it when you are a "dead beat dad". That is probably also the reason he doesn't use his social security number...cus his wages would be garnished up to 60%.
But it's nice that he lets people think it cus he is such a freedom lover.
Hey .... that must be me you are talking about. Why do I lose a small 'l' when people don't like me?
You are mostly right. Having the government enforce my exwife's wishes helped me see how bad the whole system was. i do love freedom though ... don't we all?
I know Blackie ... by the internet ... do I know you bonerjoe?
Do yourself a favor and scrub that mental note....I can't seem to post a picture, or I could share what this "hottie" looks like....
Can she call off the california child support enforcement
Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Chicks with hyphenated last names are stupid.
Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Chicks with hyphenated last names are stupid.
:cry:
Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Chicks with hyphenated last names are stupid.
:cry:
Get it fixed.
Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Chicks with hyphenated last names are stupid.
:cry:
No, I didn't do it at all. My parents weren't married when I was born, and the hospital wouldn't allow them to put just my father's last name on the birth certificate or something. They told me once years ago, but I wasn't really listening. It had something to do with them not being married, though.
Just to clarify, what I called Douchey was John Shaw's posting of NHA10's widely-known personal info, not NHA10 himself. No offense meant to either guy.Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
The sucky part is I think they all have kids. :(
No, I didn't do it at all. My parents weren't married when I was born, and the hospital wouldn't allow them to put just my father's last name on the birth certificate or something. They told me once years ago, but I wasn't really listening. It had something to do with them not being married, though.
Hospitals are chock full of assholes. They often know not of what they speak. The fathers name is law, if his name is on the BC and its not disputed. If theres any static, it's because the mother put her two cents in, and wanted things to be partially her way.
Sometimes they'll actually lie to the father and tell him bullshit, and talk to the mother privately. If the mother says its his kid and he doesn't dispute it, it gets the fathers name if both parents agree.
It could even vary from case to case within the hospital, depending on which cunt is working the social worker job that day.
I hate people in bureaucratic positions. Thats the stuff that starts the ball rolling on many problems. They bend to Planned Parenthood and nwould surely give her a fat stack of cards to carry, he'd be delighted.
As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
Just to clarify, what I called Douchey was John Shaw's posting of NHA10's widely-known personal info, not NHA10 himself. No offense meant to either guy.Quote from: Douchey LaRueIt's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.
As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.
I have a friend who pays $800 per month in child support to his ex-wife for his son. She wants more. She is a nurse, who makes pretty fucking good money on her own, takes the $800 in child support for that kid, and has two other kids with her OTHER ex, whom she collects $1600 per month from. I just can't identify with the greedy bitches. I just can't. :(
I'm glad I was thinking of different bill + kate couple.The sucky part is I think they all have kids. :(
I can only imagine your parents never divorced or you're an oversensitive whiner.
As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.
I have a friend who pays $800 per month in child support to his ex-wife for his son. She wants more. She is a nurse, who makes pretty fucking good money on her own, takes the $800 in child support for that kid, and has two other kids with her OTHER ex, whom she collects $1600 per month from. I just can't identify with the greedy bitches. I just can't. :(
this...
The "Silver Bullet Technique"
The "silver bullet" technique involves a carefully contrived, and set up false accusation of Domestic abuse, or, when possible, the provocation of real incident of Domestic abuse. Those who perpetrate this scam will make the charge of Domestic abuse, no matter what their victim does, or fails to do.
In many cases they close joint bank accounts, and make doctors appointments, BEFORE they create the "incident".
It happens hundreds of times every day.
This technique is being taught by political activists, who pose as victim's advocates. It is a means of gaining advantage, in any confrontation- particularly divorce. It gives the complaining party (referred to as the "victim"), immediate exclusive custody to the house, to the contents of the house, and to the children. It gives the REAL VICTIM (referred to as the "Defendant") the responsibility for all of the bills, while he is trying to deal with suddenly becoming homeless.
The perpetrators call themselves "victims".
The REAL victims generally do not have a clue what was done to them.
Over and over we see the following interesting phenomenon:
1. A marriage has existed for decades. There was never a call to 911, never a policeman in the house, never a complaint to family court, never a complaint to the Department of Social Services, never a time when the wife left the house "to avoid abuse".
2. The wife goes to see a divorce attorney, for reasons known only to herself.
3. Within a few weeks there is a call to 911, police in the house, a complaint to family court, a complaint to the Department of Social Services. On the night of the alleged abuse the wife leaves the house "to avoid abuse". The next day she has her husband thrown out of the house by the court.
4. OF COURSE, the divorce attorney claims no involvement in creating such a strange change in the pattern of this marriage.
The first step is usually a complaint for relief from "domestic abuse". This is filed in Family Court Relief from "domestic abuse" is a civil action for restraining orders.
"Separate the combatants" is the goal of the family court. There is very little consideration given to the question of who is to blame. The more important consideration is the question of which "combatant" is best able to deal with suddenly becoming homeless.
It does not take too long to figure out that it is usually the man, who suddenly becomes homeless.
Women generally know this, when they complain.
This is not a game for tramps only. If the most exalted love of your life ever becomes "a woman scorned", you could STILL SEE THIS HAPPEN. Most of these "women scorned" scenarios involve WIVES.
The "silver bullet" technique is a system of stripping you of your property, your right to own a gun, and your freedom. It can put you out of you own home, with no access to your own money, your children, or your possessions. It can cause you unlimited legal expenses. It can turn your friends and family against you.
If he likes it so much, they should just keep him in there for good.Apparently, you've never heard of CD before. Are you even an FTL listener?
If he likes it so much, they should just keep him in there for good.Apparently, you've never heard of CD before.
Are you even an FTL listener?
and those requirements were subsequently rolled back
Are you even an FTL listener?
He's just a whiny bastard that sticks to the FTL forum like a heroin addict.
and those requirements were subsequently rolled back
Do you have evidence to back this up?
Legislator to sponsor "Outlaw Manicurist" bill
Over two months after going to jail for performing an unlicensed manicure, Newmarket resident Mike Fisher is still reaping rewards for his sacrifice. This week State Representative Paul Hopfgarten publicly announced he would sponsor legislation easing barriers to entry for aspiring manicurists and other cosmetic startups.
"We'd need to craft it in such a way that it would be palatable to the majority of the House and Senate," writes the Derry Republican, "but YES, I would be willing to sponsor."
On May 9, Fisher appeared outside the the Board of Barbering, Cosmetology, and Esthetics office in Concord and began administering for-profit manicures without a license. Board representatives called police, who then cuffed and jailed him when he refused to stop. Fisher aimed to draw attention to the idea that "in a free country, you do not need permission from the government to start a business." He succeeded in achieving statewide headlines, but now he's achieved something more: the promise of legislative action to ease business regulation.
"I think that would be awesome," says Fisher. "It's a very hopeful development to see that we're getting support from all different types of people."
The exact wording has yet to be determined. But Fisher has said he hopes the bill will significantly reduce the number of hours of training required to attain a license from the Board and limit required training to issues that have to do with customer safety only. Currently the state requires hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars worth of schooling to buff a nail for profit.
313-A:12 Qualifications; Manicurists. – A person, to be issued a manicurist's license by the board, shall, in addition to satisfying the requirements of RSA 313-A:11, I(a), (b), and (e):
I. Have completed a course of at least 300 hours of professional training in manicuring, in a school approved by the board and passed an examination conducted by the board; or
II. Have satisfied the requirement set out in RSA 313-A:11, I(d) and, as an apprentice in a salon, received, in the opinion of the board, the equivalent of the course required under paragraph I.
At least I didn't move to NH for a pipe dream.
At least I didn't move to NH for a pipe dream.
Yeah, I guess posting on a BBS is your idea of giving a shit.
Good job Gandi.
is it really such a small community of individuals that everyoneDo the math... there are 500_ FSPers in-state.
is it really such a small community of individuals that everyone not only knows one anothers personal affairs, but actually gets off on choosing sides and creating a scandal?
good to know fellers. cant never tell these days what with the ways people are.There are lots of people in NH like you. :(
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/bin/THINKING/Silver_bullet.htmQuoteThe "Silver Bullet Technique"
The "silver bullet" technique involves a carefully contrived, and set up false accusation of Domestic abuse, or, when possible, the provocation of real incident of Domestic abuse. Those who perpetrate this scam will make the charge of Domestic abuse, no matter what their victim does, or fails to do.
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The "silver bullet" technique is a system of stripping you of your property, your right to own a gun, and your freedom. It can put you out of you own home, with no access to your own money, your children, or your possessions. It can cause you unlimited legal expenses. It can turn your friends and family against you.
good to know fellers. cant never tell these days what with the ways people are.There are lots of people in NH like you. :(
You know I won, so shut up.
hey Blackie, how you doing buddy?awesome!
You know I won, so shut up.
You're right, here is your trophy.
(http://www.forumapex.com/attachments/anything_goes/8051d1070806039-13th_annual_asshat_awards-sshat_trophy.jpg)
Are you even an FTL listener?
He's just a whiny bastard that sticks to the FTL forum like a heroin addict.
So, keep wasting your time on this pathetic thread.OK.
If you're content to live w/i your 4 walls--great. Most aren't.
As for Puke, my guess is he's busy promoting freedom and doesn't need to be bothered with busybodies that constantly pooh-pooh any action towards freedom. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when I move next year, I probably won't spend too much time nit-picking back and forth with people who aren't worth talking to. So, keep wasting your time on this pathetic thread.
(Russell, as you know, is a Christian. When he married, he really meant for life. His wife kicked him out without just cause. She got everything...kids, house, all of Russell's personal possessions (which she wouldn't give to him). Last he saw her she was driving a brand new Escalade. After she kicked him out, she got a restraining order claiming he was violent (Mr. Pacifist, violent ). She refused to let him see his children. She refuses to let him even call his children. He decided he was not going to be a slave to some woman who treated him like that - to pay for her to take his children away from him. He's offered to take the children. He wanted nothing more than to stay there and raise the kids, be a family. She chose otherwise. Now he's in jail for not paying child support. The kids don't even know why he doesn't call or see them - the mother lets them think he just doesn't care. He won't be mean enough to her to tell the kids what's happening.)
Kat, I am so stunned by all of this. I cannot believe how wrong this all is. I would like to defend myself, and find this incredibly awkward. It saddens me how the truth about Russell's past has been completely obliterated by people who don't care enough about those facts to actually check them out. I have long felt the irony that Russell is only now a "pacivist"?? This wasn't our experience at all. Personally, I think it is an overcompensation for the violence he displayed in our marriage and towards our children. He did make strides to change, but it was my opinion, and others around me, including his own parents at the time, that his being with the children was NOT wise, as his lack of self-control was in danger of seriously harming them. We lived it. You have only heard one side of the story...and though I am sorry when anyone is unjustly treated, it bears repeating that one must know first if the punishment is in fact, just. If it is...then justice must prevail. The fact that he still defends those wrong actions tells me that his 'rehabilitation' was not effective. And yes, he owes his children a lot of money....over $100,000. What would you do if it were YOUR children?
Kat, I would like to specifically address some of the untruths you posted...
I don't own an Escalade. I own a 1997 Blazer.
I worked 2 jobs for a while for my kids, as Russell wasn't contributing anything towards their LIFE...life he contributed to, and said he would be responsible for.
I never asked for alimony. I made a special request that the $1200 mo child support (mandated by the court, not me) would be reduced. He refused to cooperate at all. At one point, I asked him to give the 3 kids a total of $50 mo...he adamantly refused, on some higher moral ground?? What moral ground is higher than providing for your own kids? Or at least contributing, even if you hate your Ex wife?
I didn't get the house at all. As a matter of fact, it was my idea that he move back into it...no court documents, just a verbal agreement, and live there. (I couldn't afford it, and that was finewith me to move.) He agreed to do this. The deal was that he would make the house payments, and that one day, if we both agreed to sell, we'd split the proceeds. 5 mos later, I got a fluke call from the mortgage co, informing me the house was about to foreclose. I called him immediately. He laughed and said he hadn't paid a dime. In fact, some transients were living with him, and he was using their pmts to live off. The gas was shut off, and they were cooking over an open fire in the living room. I asked him if I could call the realtor and at least try to avoid foreclosure. He agreed. We were able to sell it immediately. 6 mos later I got $700. So, if that is getting 'everything'....
When you say "she kicked him out without just cause"Huh? The financial elements were what was least wrong about my situation. I got a restraining order because he was close to killing our oldest son, after he'd lied (He was Cool. Russell kicked me in the stomach while I was pregnant, and on the ground, after he'd pushed me down. He did some awful things within 3 mo of being married. But it was when he started hurting the kids in drastic ways...not just a traditional spanking, that I began to be scared. I filed for a separation first, and we remained in that state for 2 years, until in my estimation, any hope of reconciliation was truly over.
I did make a lot of choices along the way...I stayed for many years, trying to work on a marriage with someone who was harming me. But in the end, I chose wisely to extricate myself from him. Initially, I did not want the children to spend time with him at all. They remembered some of the really bad times too. They never questioned my reasons....they knew!
Since the kids are older, I have encouraged letter writing and phone calls. They are not interested. (I know anyone reading this will believe that I have poisoned their minds...but truly, I didn't.) They just didn't want to. When I did make suggestions for some reconcilation with them, (letters/calls/visits) he has written them each once on their birthdays and Christmas. Period.
Russell is not innocent here. His past is finally catching up to him. Maybe if he had taken care of his prior responsibilities, at least in part, he wouldn't be where he is today. He is a fugitive by choice.
For the record, I don't even know Puke--
For the record, I don't even know Puke--
Even if everything fails I still like NH. I win either way.
I'm waiting for the paperback, personally.Screw that. I wouldn't waste time reading that paperback. I'm waiting for the movie. And then only if it has titty scenes and hot actresses.
Screw that. I wouldn't waste time reading that paperback. I'm waiting for the movie. And then only if it has titty scenes and hot actresses.
Puke rox.Just for you, Dale, I'll let the movie version have some chiseled, hunky guys in it (assuming that does the trick for you)
Just for you, Dale, I'll let the movie version have some chiseled, hunky guys in it (assuming that does the trick for you)
Ooo...this is almost as good as Zack Bass' former wife's posts...This is much better.
Zack Bass was married? Damn, I didn't realize he went that far to hide his evolutionary advantage ( :wink: ).
Oh bah. His ex-wife is posting now? Shit.
I would like to make some mini-movies. Or a serious docu-comedy about the FSP.I'm waiting for the paperback, personally.Screw that. I wouldn't waste time reading that paperback. I'm waiting for the movie. And then only if it has titty scenes and hot actresses.
In short, it REALLY sucks that he might be in jail a long time, and that time is virtually useless as an example of state-sponsored aggression.
Any way you slice it, it's hard to paint Russel's current incarceration as an "act of civil disobedience", as there's not a clear, obvious State perpetrator.
Enforcing contracts is the one thing that most libertarians -- even anarchs -- think the State might need to do for awhile until private organizations can take it over. And unless you know Russell personally, this sure looks like an (implicit) contract dispute between private parties, where someone -- the State, or a DRO -- might need to step in to enforce contract at some point.
There is a party here that at least makes a vaguely plausible case for being victimized. That's key.
IF the former wife & child are really owed $100,000 then it sure might make sense to put the debtor into a work prison. Granted, this ain't a work prison, but the end results are not so different.
It's just not in the same ballpark as, say, a private agreement to perform a manicure, where the state goons bust in to stop it (no victim), or a man trying to board an aircraft (no victim, unless the airlines were to step forward -- and they could just throw him off of their property), or not paying taxes (no specific victim), or any other victimless "crime" for that matter.
In short, it REALLY sucks that he might be in jail a long time, and that time is virtually useless as an example of state-sponsored aggression.
And yes, my parents got divorced and it would have sucked if my dad didn't pay child support for the few years before my mom remarried. That doesn't make it right.
As I understand it, it is not "The State" that is demanding the money here.
The State is acting as contract enforcer; the ex-wife is saying he has an obligation to make good on a financial obligation to help raise the kid.
Like I said: I dunno if Russ "really" owes her money (she says he does, he says he doesn't).
Why not agree to private arbitration? IIRC the ex-wife posted somewhere that she'd be open to that.
And yes, my parents got divorced and it would have sucked if my dad didn't pay child support for the few years before my mom remarried. That doesn't make it right.
Money paid until the former spouse remarries is called alimony. Totally different thing than child support - at least it's supposed to be.
And yes, my parents got divorced and it would have sucked if my dad didn't pay child support for the few years before my mom remarried. That doesn't make it right.
Money paid until the former spouse remarries is called alimony. Totally different thing than child support - at least it's supposed to be.
Or, in my case, child support. Once my mom remarried, my dad no longer paid child support because there were 2 parents supporting me.
When is someone going to start a fund to pay off Russell's child support debt?
It's not my fault. It's the state. It's the medical industry,. It's the thugs. Wasn't me.
If you had gangrene in your arm and the doctors refused to help you...and the arm later had to be amputated...you'd have cause to blame the doctorsum, no. Why should anyone be obligated to help me?
And it IS the "state" and their crimes against the free marketCrimes against the free market?
What else would you call someone that routinely points a gun at you and demands ANYTHING of you....So anyone who enforces a contract(with a gun) is a thug.
Please forward me a certified copy of this contract...What certifications would you accept as valid?
Well, I don't want to pay for a place for him to sleep and eat, and I have to do that now. I wish his "friends" would bail him out.When is someone going to start a fund to pay off Russell's child support debt?
Perhaps you're not following all the threads on this...or the previous ones...
Russell doesn't want anyone to bail him out...or pay fines...or pay any supposed "obligations"...
But I suppose if you wanted to pull it out of your pocket and give it to the bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries...THEY would be DELIGHTED...
Thugs won't go away in DRO world, they just become private thugs.BINGO!
Fasting for Russell's release (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13396.msg230276#msg230276)
They should do that on Tampon Tuesday.Heh, that's pretty funny :lol:
Am I comparing a certain someone to a loose watery beer shit?Something stinks in the free state.
So the system is shown, once again, for the fucked up looting thuggists that they really are.And that is how the people like it.
Russell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism. This activism will help all children including yours. You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.
Some of the PMs I was getting were so crazy angry at Russell's Ex, that I thought I should give it a break, if only for her protection. I don't want any of the gun slingers to get so crazy that they track her down and do something to her.
Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852QuoteRussell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism. This activism will help all children including yours. You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.
Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852QuoteRussell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism. This activism will help all children including yours. You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.
I have no clue who that is.
Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852QuoteRussell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism. This activism will help all children including yours. You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.
I have no clue who that is.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg231377#msg231377
How bout now?
First of all, I would like to publicly thank those of you who understand what I am trying to say. I can't say enough how saddened I am by all that is happening to Russell. There will always be those who disagree, those who dissect each word...those who just have different views. This is not political for me. Its personal. Its what happened to me and to Joe, and Jesse and Katie. We worked very hard for many years, alone and without support. Thankfully, family and friends helped. However, Russell is where he is today, due to his personal choices. I have very little to do with that. And though I am glad he is out of our lives, I recognize he has a new life....but it is one that he is destroying. He robbed his first family, and now the pattern continues, albeit with a different slant. He is robbing his second family of his time and money too, just to make a point. He owes $139,000 to his children. He could have negotiated that out of court for many years.
For you, his supporters, why wouldn't he do that? Because you say, he couldn't see the kids...? He could have. I couldn't have stopped him, by law. And never tried...So what is your sticking point here? That I haven't given him enough chances? That because I wanted to be divorced from someone who physically harmed our children, I should 'go it alone'?
I am not a murderer, kidnapper...or otherwise, as one person so villified me. In my own defense, I have quite courageously handled many difficulties that Russell would not. At the end of the day, I look at our three wonderful kids...and thank God for how far He has brought us. And I have peace about it.
The monthly dues were an amount arbitrarily decided by the state in the first place after the wife decided to divorce Russell. They were also based on salary from a job that he is no longer comfortable with and may not even be able to resume if he wanted. He's pretty dirt poor right now. I gave up a high-paying job to live on my own terms. It's particularly disturbing when you're busting your ass in a 9 to 5 that makes you miserable just to hand over half of it over for taxes, (and I don't just mean income taxes) so I can relate. It makes you truly feel like a slave.
But - and I think this is a big butEveryone I know has a big butt
How would you feel if someone with kids just decided one day to not come home and feed the kids? It's really the same thing....just on a grander scale.Russell probably said he was going out to get coco-puffs and never came back.
It didn't expire until 2007. But Russell doesn't listen to the court.
Will Russell get out for burning porcupine?
I don't know if this festival will happen now.
So, yeah, it is happening. Hope to see you there Blackie?
This is my recollection of what happened to my friend Russell
Russell and Mindy married in 1990 and proceeded to become debt free. Mindy taught at a local Christian school (the one her parents built and she attended). They adopted two hard to place brothers and they finally had a daughter of their own in 1997. Mindy had become a stay-at-home mom. Both she and Russell became heavily involved at High Desert Church.
In early 1999 Mindy visited her folks in Africa, came home and threw Russell out. One of her family's closest friends is a Christian marriage counselor at their church. They went to see him and he told her that their marriage could be healed and not to make any rash decisions. She never went back. Russell however continued for some years. Russell lived with us part time and part time with his sister some 100 miles away. This went on for about a year so Russell could continue giving all his pay to his family. Mindy had gone back to work and stopped going to church and stopped all the friendships she had had since childhood. After about a year she told Russell she needed more money. So Russell quit his job here at McWelco and started driving truck. After he was trained he became an owner-operator, hired a team driver and lived in his truck for the next six months and deposited all his earning in Mindy's account for his family. Some months he was giving her as much as $5000.00 a month. All this time he hoped that they would soon get back together as he did for some 5 years. At the end of Russell truck driving for 6 month Mindy called him up and told him that she needed $4000.00. He reminded her that she receives all his money save a food stipend. She said she had to have the money and suggested he barrow it from his 91-year-old grandmother in North Dakota. Russell refused.
He realized that no matter how much money he gave her she would always need more and that essentially he was helping her not put his family back together. He returned home to find that she had abandoned their beautiful large four bedroom home and had taken a 2 bedroom apt that was less than $100 cheaper a month than the house and found the house was in foreclosure, Russell quit truck driving. The house was messed up, Russell tried repairing and taking renters to try to save the house for his family but he only staved off the inevitable. He also finally asked Mindy if she was ever going to try to repair their marriage. She said no so he told her he wasn't going to finance her disobedience to God anymore, and that she should come home. Well the joke was on him because when he returned home he found a notice from the D.A. explaining that he never gave his wife any money that he was now $25000 in dept and a criminal. He gleamed that some months ago she had her lawyer uncle put together the complaint and told falsehoods about his earnings at McWelco and of course claimed that she had received no money from Russell for the full almost two years they were, at that time, separated.
Now the reason Mindy was so confidant that she would get away with lying was because like so many Christians she knows Russell would never let a court have authority over his marriage and family. He does recognize the church authority in this regard and as I said before, never, up to this point, stopped going to counseling when not driving. Russell would never even contest nor even recognize the court process. He would never even participate.
So here we are in 2008 Mindy remarried 2 years ago and so did Russell. The 2 boys they adopted are grown and Katie is almost 11. Russell has not given her a dime for about 5 years. He has sent them a lot of things like clothes and computers and other necessities. Of course she would never let Russell visit the kids even before he stopped payment. Neither would she let Russell's folks visit them or his brother and sister nor their former pastor or friends she and Russell loved.
Love Jay
So you are saying Russell is one of the best people ever and he is really the amazing person he led us to think he was? Nice.
He is looting my money for food and a place to sleep.So you are saying Russell is one of the best people ever and he is really the amazing person he led us to think he was? Nice.
He's still not doing anyone any good by rotting in jail.
We have cut back to 1 print edition per month to save money and trees. :)
They lowered the amount of the ransom to $3000, so I'm going to go get him out, with a little help from friends. I guess Mindy will get a new wardrobe for herself (which is what she did with the money right after she kicked Russell out.)
About 1/2 the things Blackie just said were lies.what half?
About 1/2 the things Blackie just said were lies.
I am wondering if Russell Christ is still doing the Grafton thing. For a while they talked about changing the name of the keene free press to the NH underground.....They seem to be back on the Keene thing now.
WRONG
Around X-mas time Kat and Russell went to TX, I think. Before that they seemed to have moved to Grafton. But when they came back to NH, they did not say too much about location. Then, as soon as they announce they are going to be somewhere, Russell gets nabbed.
WRONG
I wonder if they knew this shit was coming down. Was someone looking for Russell in Grafton back in December?
WRONG
When will Russell start posting again?
Will Russell leave NH now this state is after him for being a dead beat dad?
SOMEWHAT WRONG
I wonder if they knew this shit was coming down. Was someone looking for Russell in Grafton back in December?
WRONG
I am wondering if Russell Christ is still doing the Grafton thing. For a while they talked about changing the name of the keene free press to the NH underground.....They seem to be back on the Keene thing now.
WRONG
I started trying out the new name for the newspaper - The New Hampshire Underground. As I was trying to use it, it just wasn't working out right. I like the name, but it doesn't automatically identify itself as a newspaper, and I wound up having to say the nh underground newspaper. So I guess I'm going to go with The New Hampshire Free Press. It's obviously a paper, it's statewide, it ties in with the old name better.
BTW, I don't really have any letters to the editor for this month. If anyone has something they want to rant about in print, feel free to send it along within the next few days. I think I've about cornered my mother into writing something. She was supposedly some hot writer in college, and wanted to be a writer for a living until she got hooked up with my dad.
I'm surprised they haven't yet.
I think it could have been one of his "friends" in Grafton. Or it could have been someone from the other side. I don't know, it's a mess.
the money spent yesterday will hopefully go to Mindy someday .... but it doesn't make things go away. my bill goes up at about $2200/month
I will try to pay her a few hundred each month. That might not keep me out of jail.
Most of what Jay said was correct.
Some of what Mindy has said is correct.
Sometimes I didn't make her feel loved or safe.
I held her down a couple of times and kicked in the front door once.
I held Joe up on a wall when he was arguing with Mindy once and she said that really scared her.
I used to get angry when things didn't go my way or I felt I had the "right" to something like respect.
I was depressed when Mindy separated and divorced me. But no way I threatened to kill them.
Since then I have learned that I should truly love the people around me unconditionally ... and sometimes I even do it. I am working on loving my enemies.
I have learned I am not owed anything ... I mean anything. So I don't get mad or sad very easily or really at all.
I have slowly learned that even if I think I am right, I should not use force against other people, even those that are hurting me or others. Although I find it still hurts when you turn the other cheek.
I had not cooperated with Mindy since 2002 because I didn't want to make it easy for her to break up our family and withhold my kids from me. I also wanted to oppose this whole system that enslaves men.
But now I am giving in to her demands. The thugs won. I am going to give her what I can so I can possibly stay out of jail and live with my beautiful and loving wife Kat. I have not wanted to use government force to take the kids from Mindy and giving her money is not as bad as funding the feds torturing and killing of people. So she has the kids and has kept me from seeing them most of the time, but I will give in to her without expecting her to change her behavior.
I had no right to have a loving wife before ... but God has been good and given me one now.
I can't communicate with my kids right now, but maybe someday I will.
My working theory is that Russell got ratted out by someone in Grafton.
Well, I have seen his "side" in Grafton threaten that type of shit before.
Russell wasn't "ratted out" by anyone...
Subject: DO NOT COME TO NH - EVER
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:45:13 -0400
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Mr. Xxxxx Xxxxxxxxx,
THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. WITH "FRIENDS" LIKE YOU, WE DON'T NEED ANY ENEMIES.
YOU HAVE POISONED THE WELL IN GRAFTON. THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR "HELP."
THE PEOPLE OF GRAFTON ARE ARMED, DANGEROUS, AND EXTREMELY PISSED AT YOU. EXCEPT FOR THIS MESSAGE, WE WILL CERTAINLY NOT PROTECT YOU.
IN FACT, WE WILL HELP THEM HANG YOU OUT TO DRY IN ANY LEGAL WAY POSSIBLE.
YOU ARE HEREBY WARNED. DO NOT COME TO NEW HAMPSHIRE EVER AGAIN.
THERE IS NO WARM, FUZZY FREEDOM COMMUNITY HERE FOR YOU. FOR YOU THERE IS ONLY AN EXTREMELY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT OF YOUR OWN MAKING. STAY IN FLORIDA.
For Responsible Liberty,
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Vice Chair, 2d District, L P N H
Chair, Welcome to the Granite State Committee
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Voice or Fax:
Inside USA: 1-888-221-8628 (Toll-free)
Outside USA: 1-312-893-0715 (Not toll-free)
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Who'd want to live in Grafton anyway? Shit's worse than any southern small town I've ever been too, by far.
Who wouldn't want to live in Grafton?
Who'd want to live in Grafton anyway? Shit's worse than any southern small town I've ever been too, by far.
It has low taxes, a small government, nice people, wonderful views, low traffic, low crime, is right on a state road, low property values, and Blackie lives there. Who wouldn't want to live in Grafton?
RELEASED BY: Kelly A. Ayotte, Attorney General
SUBJECT: Methamphetamine Labs in Grafton County
DATE: January 17, 2006
RELEASE TIME: Immediate
Attorney General Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire State Police Colonel Fred Booth; Leo Ducey, Drug Enforcement Administration; Plymouth Police Chief Anthony Raymond, and Grafton Police Chief Merle Kenyon report that two clandestine methamphetamine labs were discovered last week in Grafton County.
On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, members of the Attorney General’s Drug Task Force, New Hampshire State Police, and the New England Clandestine Lab Team executed a search warrant on the property of David Hall, DOB 12/10/47, on Beech Hill Road in Plymouth. Based on the strong chemical odor and the large number of items typically associated with the production of methamphetamine, they were able to determine that a methamphetamine lab had recently been operating in the building. David Hall, DOB 7/20/1970, was arrested at the scene and charged with a felony offense of manufacturing methamphetamine.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, members of the Attorney General’s Drug Task Force, the New England Clandestine Lab Team, and the Grafton Police Department executed search warrants for two properties in Grafton, one on Slab City Road and the second on Dean Hill Road. During the searches, the police discovered evidence of methamphetamine production, including a quantity of pseudoephedrine, the main ingredient used to produce the drug, and other items used in the production process. The following individuals have been arrested and charged with the felony offense of conspiracy to manufacture methamphetamine: Roger Robie, 1/31/1968, of Grafton; Shane Hodgdon, DOB 10/23/1977, of Grafton; Ryan Wilson, DOB 1/13/1978, of Grafton; and, Pavel Sury, DOB 2/23/1976, of Meredith.
The presence of these two labs, says Attorney General Kelly Ayotte, highlights the need to take affirmative steps in this state to prevent the methamphetamine crisis that has plagued so many western states. While the number of clandestine labs discovered in New Hampshire to date is small, that number has increased dramatically in the last year. The process used by these labs to manufacture methamphetamine involves highly toxic and explosive ingredients, which create a serious risk of injury and long-term health problems to anyone exposed to them, in addition to the drug’s highly addictive nature. The legislature is currently considering a number of bills aimed at preventing the spread of methamphetamine labs in New Hampshire, including bills that would place reasonable limitations on access to ephedrine and pseudoephedrine-based products, one of the primary ingredients in the manufacturing process and increasing the criminal penalties for possessing or manufacturing methamphetamine. The passage of these bills would be a significant step towards curbing the production of this highly addictive drug in our State.
Internet is fine in Grafton.Tell me more about this.
Blackie, maybe you have never lived in a big city but people commonly travel some distance to work. Internet is fine in Grafton. And people make and use drugs everywhere.
there needs to be more big titted women and larger buildings.
Internet is fine in Grafton.Tell me more about this.
Not low latency...also expensive,and many times has a bandwith cap.Internet is fine in Grafton.Tell me more about this.
Sat in the sky.
Leave it to Keith to take a debate about internet availability and turn it into which types of video games he likes...
First, some background. I have outlined, in detail to Lauren and more basically in these forums, my views on the “Driver’s License” concept. Call them “papers” if it makes you feel better, but whatever you call them, they are NOT a requirement to live in this country, not even to travel. However, if you want to be in control of a car, you need a license. The reasoning behind this is simple: there are lots of people out there who regularly endanger the rest of us (and our families). Whether they routinely drive drunk, drive recklessly (like the motorcyclist from the other day who initiated the events that eventually led to my arresting Russell), habitually speed etc. The licensing process attempts to keep them off the roads by having the requirement that everyone needs one to drive, and when you lose your license you lose your privilege to drive that 2000lb hunk of steel on the roads. The consequences of getting caught driving without a license, or on a suspended license, deter most of those dangerous drivers, in my experience. And keeps them from driving, and endangering you and me.
“No victim, no crime,” is what is thrown at me now, and I say again, there’s never a victim until BAM, people burn to death or are maimed for life, or just have their car wrecked. Everyone says “Wow, what a bummer,” but usually it’s not your wife who’s dead, or your seven year old daughter who is decapitated by a drunk driver (exaggeration? Here’s the link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/05/29/o.lifesaving.lesson/index.html ).
Now, I don’t agree with suspending people’s licenses for non-payment of child support, or for blowing through an EasyPass toll gate. But I do support the basic premise, and purpose, behind the driver’s licensing system. Because of that, I do not let people just drive off when I know they’re suspended. While I have given many people breaks for a joint or baggie of dope or pot pipe, I have not for driving suspended.
Russell’s account of his arrest was quite accurate. He’s a good man and I’ve yet to find him being dishonest or trying to bullshit, even when it might benefit him. This is what happened through from my viewpoint: Two of my officers had stopped a motorcyclist for slaloming through traffic, in the oncoming lane, at over a hundred miles per hour. Some of you will say “Where’s the problem?” We saw a problem and addressed it. We managed to stop him on West Street at Base Hill Road, where the Country Club is. As the Shift Commander I went over to offer my assistance, and found that my two units and the motorcycle were filling most of a lane, so I got out to help traffic around. As I was doing so, Russell drove up and stopped at the stop sign, I immediately saw that was him. I was sure his license was suspended (because it has been since I’ve known him and he’s repeatedly told me and others he doesn’t need a license to drive), so I walked over to him. He was smiling, and asked me what was going on. I told him, and told him to pull over near where the motorcycle was, and he did. He got out, there was some discussion about his license, and I asked why, if he was paying California the child support stuff, they couldn’t reinstate his license? I think he said something about it would take months for them to do that. His license was confirmed as suspended, and we arrested him. A tow truck had been requested for Russell’s car, but he asked if Kat could just take it, I said sure and cancelled the tow.
At the PD, Russell was cooperative and agreed to be bailed. However, a closer check of his motor vehicle record indicated that this current charge would only be a violation, so I told my officer to cancel the Bail Commish for him and just release him on a Summons.
To sum up: I saw Russell driving, knew he was suspended, detained him and double-checked it, and arrested him. He was processed and released on a Summons.
I will explain, as I have to Russell probably a couple times. When people rack up enough points on their driving record, they will eventually be declared a Habitual Offender. When they get arrested for driving again, they will get charged with a felony and will go to jail, most likely for a year. The courts don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone’s politics, or their opinion of whether they should be required to have a driver’s license. It’s the law to have one, and they will put you in jail over it.
As I see it, there’s a sizeable portion of the population who would support reform of the drug laws. That support seems to be growing, and indeed I support that as well. However, in regards to driver’s licensing, I think you will find the vast majority of people support it.
The retort I get to this is “Mob rule.” Fine, but be honest…if the “mob” agreed with your views you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
While we’re talking about laws and change, I’d like to take this opportunity to discuss just that. No intent to insult or put you guys down, just my opinions. I see, as I’ve said before, many good ideas in this movement, much correct thinking. I also see disorganization, lack of leadership and a hodgepodge of actions limited to the tactical level (that’s the local stuff, like the open-carry litter pickups, copwatch, puppet shows, “I’m gonna drive on my suspended license” etc.). In some ways this is good (it’s difficult to smash an organization that is as decentralized as you guys, to put it bluntly). However, tactical actions alone will not affect much change. You may attract individuals to join your movement from here and there, you may get individuals from within the hoovernment to join you, or at least agree with you on some levels (as I do). Some tactical actions might attract negative attention from the very citizens you’re trying to “wake up,” making them think you’re a bunch of kooks (even before they check out some of the more, uh, extreme personalities on this forum!).
In order for you guys to affect change (change or eliminate certain laws or whatever), you’re going to need the support of the general population, or at least a goodly portion of it. You just don’t have the numbers or support for a “revolution” if that’s what you’re after. To think you’re just going to rip down the current political structure of this state or the nation is a pipe dream, at least for now. You should get some people thinking “strategic,” which means putting your own reps and senators in the state house, or at least winning many more current ones over to your thinking. Then you can work to repeal laws to your heart’s content. I suspect once people around the country see “it” working in NH, you may spark efforts in other states, and eventually the nation. It will take time, and effort. And if eventually it is legal for Russell to drive around with no license, and with a huge doobie hanging on his lip, I’ll be more than happy to wave to him as he drives on by.
Lastly, for the three of you who have listened to this point, I came to this forum looking for neither “buddies” nor the subversion of your cause. I came because I agree with many of your views, and I thought that communication (I called it détente earlier) could only benefit us all.
Blackie, you suck because you got banned, whereas I have teh awesomeness because I chose to leave.That is not why I suck.
Russell Arrested (again) 5/29/08 for no drivers license (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14195.msg244517#msg244517) by a cop that hangs out on http://NHfree.com . Nice.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've never met the guy, and I do understand that his credibility comes from the fact that he does bust a lot of potheads. . . while saying that the arrests are wrong.
but to be honest, and he must understand this being a cop, that everytime EVERY time I trust a cop I get fucked over.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I'm never taking anyone with "FSP" in their user name serious ever again.
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I'm never taking anyone with "FSP" in their user name serious ever again.
Didn't your parents teach you to never take the real world serious anyways?
-- Brede
I think Brad just has to appear (in public) that he would arrest people for whatever the crime. Cause if his chief ever got wind of it (him turning a blind eye), he could be in trouble for dereliction of duty. That would most likely get him fired and he wouldn't be able to be continue his work for LEAP as their only current duty LEO. As far as I know, he hasn't mistreated anyone yet... SoIf he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
That's true. At least where I live, cops hardly ever have to arrest you. I'm pretty sure the laws work the same in NH.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
They shouldn't quit. They should stop arresting people for stupid shit, and wait to get fired.I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
Brad and other bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries...named and unnamed have all been asked repeatedly to quit their jobs and do it publicly to further our cause... The don't... The like the power trip... They aren't bothered by the fact that while they are jackbooting...they might run across someone who isn't "into" their erroneous supposed "authority" or "jurisdiction" and that person(s) might just ignore them...and then they might just "decide" that they "had no other choice" but to commit a murderous execution of the "non-compliant" "offender"...
Go figure...
quit your "job" Brad...
and Adam, Bob, Charles, David, Eugene, Frank, Gary, Henry, Ivan, Jerry, Kenny, Larry, Michael, Neal, Orville, Paul, Quinn, Randy, Steve, Tom, Ufuk, Val, William, Xavier, Yule, Zion...
-nevertheend_
The US Department of Justice sent a notice today that they've put out a warrant for someone named Katherine Kanningdillon for disorderly conduct. They said they'll arrest this person in 10 days if the $125 fine isn't paid. It's signed by Stephen Monier. They sent a notice a couple of months ago, but we never signed for it, so didn't know what it said.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
Brad is in the interesting position that if he were to witness a crime being committed in front of him, especially drug use, it could very likely be a sting operation being directed against him. He’s made himself enough enemies being a cop and anti-prohibition. Even if such wasn’t a sting, it would be used as an excuse to fire him.
I think it's sad that liberty loving people are so naive as to let law enforcement officers like that into their group when they are obviously there to collect information on them.
I've conversed with Brad Jarvis through a lot of PMs, and I still don't know about the guy. He talks a very good game, almost to where he seems like he's on your side if you're a pothead, shroomhead, cokehead, whatever. I'm beginning to believe that he's a manipulator, and a con artist. Do NOT trust Brad Jarvis, people. If he's really serious about his LEAP activism, then he'll do good whether or not people associate with him.
That's one of the things I hate about this world. Too many wolves in sheep's clothing. Everywhere you look...
If he’s part of some sort of sting operation, it’s a pretty piss-poor one. Brad has told people outright that if he witnesses you committing a crime, he will arrest you, because he has to.
No. He. Does. Not.
Brad is in the interesting position that if he were to witness a crime being committed in front of him, especially drug use, it could very likely be a sting operation being directed against him. He’s made himself enough enemies being a cop and anti-prohibition. Even if such wasn’t a sting, it would be used as an excuse to fire him.
Quote from: Russell KanningThere is always the right step to take. Maybe it is time for these cops to take that next one.
This is why I and a lot of other people think it’s such a bad idea to attack and alienate the police who seem to be amenable to our movement here. They’ve taken the first steps in the right direction, and if we’re actually able to keep them on our side, friendly, and engaging in dialog with us, they’ll probably eventually take the next step, and the next, and so on. But if we make an enemy out of them (which is far easier than keeping them friends or at least friendly), we’ve lost any chance to get them over to our side, period.
And if they are only involved with freestaters to gather intel, so what? As long as we check ourselves around them and don’t give them anything useful, and don’t commit crimes in front of them, let them watch. Hell, if one of us actually have reasonable suspicion someone is a mole, let’s feed them misinformation. The worst thing to do with a suspected mole is to call them out before we have anything conclusive, which only makes them put up their guard, making it that much harder to ever get something conclusive on them.
this is the FTL BBS, where idiocy reigns supreme.no, you don't
Jeremy, you forget, this is the FTL BBS, where idiocy reigns supreme.Unlike http://forumnazis.com ?
Jeremy, you forget, this is the FTL BBS, where idiocy reigns supreme.
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.I'm doing fine. Sorry to hear you and yours are spinning your wheels.
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.
Where are we supposed to go?
BTW, I won't eat anything in jail...I'll just have water.
Going places, because of oppression is surrender.
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.
GTFO, Sun Ra.
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5650/sun20ra2004we1.jpg)
I don't want to offend anyone here... but threads like these are why we're not getting anywhere.
The actual freestater activism is elsewhere:—:?
http://forum.freestateproject.org/
http://forum.nhfree.com/
https://www.nhteaparty.org/
http://www.nhliberty.org/forum/
http://forum.freekeene.com/
The actual freestater activism is elsewhere:—:?
http://forum.freestateproject.org/
http://forum.nhfree.com/
https://www.nhteaparty.org/
http://www.nhliberty.org/forum/
http://forum.freekeene.com/
That is activism?
Anyway, I pretty much hate all activists. Those fucking douchebags always overstate their case. Always.
The actual freestater activism is elsewhere:—:?
http://forum.freestateproject.org/
http://forum.nhfree.com/
https://www.nhteaparty.org/
http://www.nhliberty.org/forum/
http://forum.freekeene.com/
That is activism?
Anyway, I pretty much hate all activists. Those fucking douchebags always overstate their case. Always.
psh! Activism has been molested and left for dead in the rain. Real Activism is opting out of the system completely. Not fooling around in their carefully planned maze.
I think Keene crash space is going to have to start costing you Dale. You might have set the record for most times changing your mind where you are going to live.
On second thought ... us Keeniacs will welcome you back to the fold. You can buy a place here and then we will run it for you when you move to Portsmouth in a year.
And don’t forget that just being a freestater who’s out in Grafton is “doing something” in the fight for freedom.
After finishing the entirety of the thread over on NHUnderground so far, I think I see why so many people are upset at the slut. I'm going to call her the slut because I can't figure out what her actual name is and why she has more than one. Still, I don't think I'd want the tubes clogged with a mess about my cheating husband.
If you'll excuse me now I don't really have time for this. I have a campaign website and literature to design for someone running for the NH House. After that I need to report back to Lud Flowers and Jerry Thibideau (you remember him, don't you?) what needs to get done for the Republican presence here in the Grafton Independence Day celebration... good day.
Does Seth Cohn EVER stop complaining? I'd hate to live in the same house with that.
Does Seth Cohn EVER stop complaining? I'd hate to live in the same house with that.
Did I miss something? You complain about Seth why?
Quote from Russell:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14494.msg248814#msg248814QuoteI think Keene crash space is going to have to start costing you Dale. You might have set the record for most times changing your mind where you are going to live.
On second thought ... us Keeniacs will welcome you back to the fold. You can buy a place here and then we will run it for you when you move to Portsmouth in a year.
Not in Grafton.
That depends on if you love the woods. I love the woods, so I would.
I love the woods too...I really do...but it's Grafton, dude. Grafton. I'd shoot myself first.
double thisDoes Seth Cohn EVER stop complaining? I'd hate to live in the same house with that.
Did I miss something? You complain about Seth why?
Because, like you, he's annoying as shit.
Wanna rent a house in Grafton?That depends on if you love the woods. I love the woods, so I would.
I love the woods too...I really do...but it's Grafton, dude. Grafton. I'd shoot myself first.
What about Grafton you don't like? I've been there..its a nice, blink or you'll miss it country town.The town isn't small....it's 40 square miles. The population is small.
I love the woods too...I really do...but it's Grafton, dude. Grafton. I'd shoot myself first.
What about Grafton you don't like? I've been there..its a nice, blink or you'll miss it country town. Lots of porcs are working hard to make it as free as possible there.
The town isn't small....it's 40 square miles. The population is small.
More hillbillies than where I currently live. I can't handle that.flatlanders....stay in your suburb. We don't want you.
It reminds me of where I grew up down in western MA which is mostly woods, and farms. Love it.
J’raxis 270145 :
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=15404.msg186123#msg186123QuoteAnd don’t forget that just being a freestater who’s out in Grafton is “doing something” in the fight for freedom.
Does Seth Cohn EVER stop complaining? I'd hate to live in the same house with that.
I honestly have no idea what set Boner and/or Blackie offAre you kidding?
Just discovered this thread,Did you discover this one?
"Ever notice how you can hear dueling bajos as you ride down some of the dirt roads in Grafton?
Maybe that is just in my head."
Oh good I thought it was just me.
The July issue of the Grafton Gazette is available now at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf
We expanded it to 12 pages, and ran our first paid full page ad! Also, we had it mailed to every household/box in Grafton. It was really a team effort so a big shout-out to everyone that helped.
A special thanks goes to Kat for her help getting us started.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14264.msg249594#msg249594QuoteThe July issue of the Grafton Gazette is available now at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf
We expanded it to 12 pages, and ran our first paid full page ad! Also, we had it mailed to every household/box in Grafton. It was really a team effort so a big shout-out to everyone that helped.
A special thanks goes to Kat for her help getting us started.
Mary H. McDow, or as Zack called her, Bloody Mary, died June 11, 2008. She was the town clerk. She pulled me over about a year ago and said she was gunna call the police (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=15321.msg283108#msg283108) on me cus I drive bad. I avoided registering a car for about 6 months cus I didn't want to see her. I got the car registered monday and found out she was dead. Weird.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14264.msg249594#msg249594QuoteThe July issue of the Grafton Gazette is available now at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf
We expanded it to 12 pages, and ran our first paid full page ad! Also, we had it mailed to every household/box in Grafton. It was really a team effort so a big shout-out to everyone that helped.
A special thanks goes to Kat for her help getting us started.
Mary H. McDow, or as Zack called her, Bloody Mary, died June 11, 2008. She was the town clerk. She pulled me over about a year ago and said she was gunna call the police (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=15321.msg283108#msg283108) on me cus I drive bad. I avoided registering a car for about 6 months cus I didn't want to see her. I got the car registered monday and found out she was dead. Weird.
good riddence...
good riddence...If you look at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf , the paper put out by the self proclaimed "freedom loving" people of Grafton, you will see they liked her. She was on your side, and by your side I mean the FSP/FTP/Babiarz side.
good riddence...If you look at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf , the paper put out by the self proclaimed "freedom loving" people of Grafton, you will see they liked her. She was on your side, and by your side I mean the FSP/FTP/Babiarz side.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14264.msg249594#msg249594QuoteThe July issue of the Grafton Gazette is available now at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf
We expanded it to 12 pages, and ran our first paid full page ad! Also, we had it mailed to every household/box in Grafton. It was really a team effort so a big shout-out to everyone that helped.
A special thanks goes to Kat for her help getting us started.
Mary H. McDow, or as Zack called her, Bloody Mary, died June 11, 2008. She was the town clerk. She pulled me over about a year ago and said she was gunna call the police (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=15321.msg283108#msg283108) on me cus I drive bad. I avoided registering a car for about 6 months cus I didn't want to see her. I got the car registered monday and found out she was dead. Weird.
good riddence...
Wow. You really are something, you know that?
I was referring specifically to her aggression/force/fraud against you previously...had you not pulled over...who knows what kind of bruce mckay actions she might have taken...There was no aggression/force/fraud on her part.
I was referring specifically to her aggression/force/fraud against you previously...had you not pulled over...who knows what kind of bruce mckay actions she might have taken...There was no aggression/force/fraud on her part.
If I didn't stop, I would have lost her on a back road, Dukes of Hazzard style. I don't practice drifting for nuthin'. It is Grafton, after all, and there are no posted speed limits on most of the dirt roads.
People don't need a contract with me in order to send me a "signal" or to talk to me in a public place. Is it fraud if someone honks at me?
There WAS fraud in the fact that she had no legitimate contract with you to be in a position to signal you to stop your journey just so she could give you "a piece of her mind"...and an opinion...
If you had been open carrying she probably would have claimed you brandished it...I almost never open carry. I think it is a bad idea.
Then she would have claimed your Dukes impression was reckless drivingIt would have been.
I think Rob just likes the thought of people dying.
I think Rob just likes the thought of people dying.
Quite the contrary...
Not that I care whether you, or anyone else, believes that...
It will definitely be a sad day when the wholesale repelling begins...
We're still trying to avoid that, but there is a very high probability that Rand was correct in her hypothesis that the looters will have to consume everything...including themselves...
www.campaignforliberty.com
This is the first time I ever actually did enjoy one of your posts.enjoy
This is the first time I ever actually did enjoy one of your posts.
Monday 14th- Diehards get there and start fixing things up
Tuesday - Perfect weather planned, life is good
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Wednesday - Water balloon and squirt gun war
- Evening - Lloyd roast
Thursday - Morning hike to Mt. Cardigan
- Evening - Tim Condon roast
Friday
- Morning -
- Evening - Bush Pinata bashing, Tall Tale Telling - Shorty roast, Big Burning Porcupine
Saturday
- Morning -
- Evening - Biggest Burning Porcupine, open mic
Sunday - Pilgrimage to Gun Worship service at Little Minnesota? Altexpo - meeting?
- Evening - Russell roast
Monday -
Tuesday -
Wednesday -
Thursday -
Friday -
to be scheduled:
Lex triathlon
Flaming arrows
Pitchfork tossing contest
Scrabble tourney
I have been writting the jokes for the last 4 years.
Pitchfork tossing contest
Here's how the amphitheater looks now
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3231)
The showerhouse (?) Lloyd is building
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3232)
The newly hayed fields look great
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3233)
That would be the 20th, yes?
Is the LPNH picnic still on? I just spoke to Brendan Kelly, and he asked me when it was. He won't be there on Sunday.
How would people here feel about a certain LP Presidential Candidate making an appearance on Sunday? It would certainly put BP on the map (and quite a headline for the Gazette). The Northeast coordinator is checking the schedule.
Should I encourage or discourage this?
Good times at Manch Porc Manor
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14815
It was getting so good at the FSP forum, so they had to move the thread to a members only section.
Good times at Manch Porc Manor
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14815
It was getting so good at the FSP forum, so they had to move the thread to a members only section.
Any juicy details? I can't really tell what happened. Looks like some guy went crazy or something. Did Dalebert get really drunk and start streaking through Porc Manor? :lol:
Good times at Manch Porc Manor
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14815
It was getting so good at the FSP forum, so they had to move the thread to a members only section.
Any juicy details? I can't really tell what happened. Looks like some guy went crazy or something. Did Dalebert get really drunk and start streaking through Porc Manor? :lol:
One of the housemates assaulted another housemate and got kicked out of the house. This guy is renting rooms out to incoming porcupines, so we warned them the only way we could. It wasn't all that dramatic, really.
One of the housemates assaulted another housemate and got kicked out of the house.What kind of assault?
It wasn't all that dramatic, really.Really?
He put broken glass on the step ladder she uses to get in and out of her room.One of the housemates assaulted another housemate and got kicked out of the house.What kind of assault?
Really. We were warning the community about a sociopath. That's not drama.QuoteIt wasn't all that dramatic, really.Really?
I'm still confused as to the details of this situation.Ok.
I'm still confused as to the details of this situation.Ok.
I'm still confused as to the details of this situation.Ok.
Well, fuck you then.
He put broken glass on the step ladder she uses to get in and out of her room.What kind of broken glass, and why does she need a step ladder to get in and out of her room?
Assaulting a house mate is drama. Trying to evict someone is drama. Flame wars between house mates is drama. Demanding someone come out of his room, so you can scream at him and video tape it is drama. Or maybe that is just what happens every day at porc manner?Really. We were warning the community about a sociopath. That's not drama.QuoteIt wasn't all that dramatic, really.Really?
What kind of broken glass, and why does she need a step ladder to get in and out of her room?
How does everyone know he did it?
Anyway, the best part is now I get to spread rumors because yall feel the need to 'hide' the topic on the FSP forum. Good times.
All I know is Mackler is no longer welcome over at our home. Ever.
We suspect he was the one who did it because he doesn't have an alibi and his behavior following this incident is extremely suspicious.At least you only suspect it.
All I know is Mackler is no longer welcome over at our home. Ever.
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Seriously, is everyone that's going to Burning Porc just going to sit around and get high? Because that looks like that's all there is to do.
1st - What is the representation of jews on the FSP board?
Is there an over representation of dual loyalist jews, as it is in many other organizations that love freedom. Where said organization starts to do good, then later dual loyalists are elected, then all of a sudden said effort starts to fizzle, because of these judas goats working against it inside. FSP is currently NOT meeting their goals of people moving to NH, Et Tu Brute Rich? I can tell you of dozens of movements and organizations where this has happened time and time again. Ron Pauls 2008 Revolution is just the latest to get derailed. The revolutionary sayanim is right smack in the middle of it all.
Rich, are you only sensitive to jewish issues, because everything you listed in the email below as offensive to FSP has to do solely with posts/categories exposing the crimes of the criminal jew. (I said CRIMINAL JEW not all jews) One of the writers you happen to chose is a Canadien jew by the name of Henry Makow, who has no problem exposing jewish crimes and criminals. But henry must be a self hater. Obviously you didn?t read the piece he wrote, only the sensationalism of the title? http://pokerface.org/fx/viewtopic.php?t=5486
…
If I had taken your attitude of protecting criminal illegal-Mexicans in writing this email to Poker Face, I would be telling them that all of their anti-illegal immigration posts
http://pokerface.org/fx/viewforum.php?f=28
are RACIST and SUPREMACIST, & that Poker Face are a bunch of Minute-Klanners etc..? oh yeah that?s right, I have gotten called those names too, because of my AMERICAN FIRST actions. But instead I get a shitty little email like the one you wrote to me, whining about how we?re haters and anti-semites for what we allow to be posted on our forum. Grow the fuck up.
Now I find out that you are going out of your way to fuck up other events and relationship.
Quick question? Are you American First or are you JEW first. If you want me to see you color blind, then act like an American Firster, and stop covering for jews who are criminals, for that?s all we do. By you being offended by the articles posted, tells me what side of freedom YOU choose to be on ? the half truthers side. We don?t care what the truth is, no matter how ugly it may be against our own favorite groups, or against the grain of our programmed ? education. Truth is always paramount., and as well should be for EVERYONE else.
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Those FSPers sound like a bunch of liberal pussies. I'm Wyoming bound!
Those FSPers sound like a bunch of liberal pussies. I'm Wyoming bound!
I'm Alaska bound!
... as soon as I can pay off my student loans.
What makes Alaska so good? They don't wear cowboy hats in Alaska.
The FSP could be turned into a Spanish TV drama. Tonighto on Libertado Estado Projecto... Russel Kanning gets arrestado for something randomino and estupido...
Think Telemundo will buy it?
The FSP could be turned into a Spanish TV drama. Tonighto on Libertado Estado Projecto... Russel Kanning gets arrestado for something randomino and estupido...
Think Telemundo will buy it?
Not enough sex.
There's more drama brewin'... I expected to see it on this thread. I'm disappointed, Blackie. I thought you'd gimme some dirt.Is it Grafton related?
There's more drama brewin'... I expected to see it on this thread. I'm disappointed, Blackie. I thought you'd gimme some dirt.Is it Grafton related?
Did the state auction off the Kanning's property yet for not paying property taxes?They signed up for sat internet today. Looks like they plan on being in "hobbitown" for a while
we ordered hughes 2day
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Russell in court 8/19/08 at 10am for driving without government papers.
Russell Kanning in court tomorrow.Bah. Keene.
Russell Kanning in court tomorrow.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14630.0QuoteRussell in court 8/19/08 at 10am for driving without government papers.
Party at Pizza Hut after the trial!
Party at Pizza Hut after the trial!
I've got better things to do, like make money. And Keene is out of the way. Who the fuck goes there?Party at Pizza Hut after the trial!I dare you to show up.
Party at Pizza Hut after the trial!
I dare you to show up.
Cane.
Cane.
Fuck you, I was thinking of the Bible when I wrote that shit.
Cane.
Fuck you, I was thinking of the Bible when I wrote that shit.
Ahuh.
Cane.
Fuck you, I was thinking of the Bible when I wrote that shit.
Ahuh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah
I really was. I was thinking of comparing him to the oldest man who ever lived.
wat
Someone's been playing with the database.
Name: Blackie
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Ian should get his admin on a leash.
Ian should get his admin on a leash.
He's not the admin, Johnson is.
Either way, someone is directly editing SQL database.
someone is directly editing SQL database.No, they're probably using mysql. You have to be pretty hardcore to edit database files directly :P
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
Someone's deleting and recreating their account to avoid responsibility for their own words.
Seems to happen around here all the time.
Someone's deleting and recreating their account to avoid responsibility for their own words.You think that is why people do it? Error. You can edit or delete posts before you delete the account. After you delete the account, the posts can't be changed or removed.
Russell agrees to perform 30 hours of community service at $10/hr to pay off his $300 fine. Video will be coming.
Broadcast on Porc-411:Didn't he agree to it?
Russ is free, but the Municipal Corporation of Keene believe Russ owes it $300 or 30 hours of community service.
There used to be an URL on ioerror.us where one could link to and download Porc411 messages.
Error -- is such a URL still available?
Broadcast on Porc-411:Didn't he agree to it?
Russ is free, but the Municipal Corporation of Keene believe Russ owes it $300 or 30 hours of community service.
If he did, he must believe it too.
Unfortunately, we won't be at the two events above after all. Late last night, we got an e-mail from our house-sitters that our cat had been missing for 3 days. We drove back all night, and long story short, the cat is now safe, but with a required department meeting coming up on the 22nd, I think we will bunker down in Buffalo for a week before returning to NH.
Jason Sorens had "moved" to NH from Sept-Dec., but had to rush back to his house in NY to find his cat.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=15782.msg191341#msg191341QuoteUnfortunately, we won't be at the two events above after all. Late last night, we got an e-mail from our house-sitters that our cat had been missing for 3 days. We drove back all night, and long story short, the cat is now safe, but with a required department meeting coming up on the 22nd, I think we will bunker down in Buffalo for a week before returning to NH.
Jason Sorens had "moved" to NH from Sept-Dec., but had to rush back to his house in NY to find his cat.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=15782.msg191341#msg191341QuoteUnfortunately, we won't be at the two events above after all. Late last night, we got an e-mail from our house-sitters that our cat had been missing for 3 days. We drove back all night, and long story short, the cat is now safe, but with a required department meeting coming up on the 22nd, I think we will bunker down in Buffalo for a week before returning to NH.
You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for “drama” now, aren’t you?
Nope. The founder of the FPS "moves" to NH to fulfill his first 1000 pledge, but has to leave early because Mr. Wiskers goes missing. That is some funny shit. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.Jason Sorens had "moved" to NH from Sept-Dec., but had to rush back to his house in NY to find his cat.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=15782.msg191341#msg191341QuoteUnfortunately, we won't be at the two events above after all. Late last night, we got an e-mail from our house-sitters that our cat had been missing for 3 days. We drove back all night, and long story short, the cat is now safe, but with a required department meeting coming up on the 22nd, I think we will bunker down in Buffalo for a week before returning to NH.
You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for “drama” now, aren’t you?
Nope. The founder of the FPS "moves" to NH to fulfill his first 1000 pledge, but has to leave early because Mr. Wiskers goes missing. That is some funny shit. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
Yeah, I hijacked his account and posted that on the FSP forum.Nope. The founder of the FPS "moves" to NH to fulfill his first 1000 pledge, but has to leave early because Mr. Wiskers goes missing. That is some funny shit. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
I think you just did. He didn't leave early, whatever that means.
Yeah, I hijacked his account and posted that on the FSP forum.Nope. The founder of the FPS "moves" to NH to fulfill his first 1000 pledge, but has to leave early because Mr. Wiskers goes missing. That is some funny shit. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
I think you just did. He didn't leave early, whatever that means.
He currently lives in NH but is still a teacher in NY and will move back to his apartment before the 1st semester of 2009 starts, from my understanding.He lives in NH, but he owns a house and has a job in NY, and also is currently in NY. :D
I don't get why everyone worships Jason Sorens as the 'founder' of the FSP. All he did was write a fucking essay, and then a couple of idealistic people took the idea and ran with it. Those people are the ones who should be considered the 'founders' of the FSP.
I don't get why everyone worships Jason Sorens as the 'founder' of the FSP. All he did was write a fucking essay, and then a couple of idealistic people took the idea and ran with it. Those people are the ones who should be considered the 'founders' of the FSP.
Who worships Jason because he founded the FSP? I worship him because he listens to crazy metal music and gives out free drinks (good ones, I might add).
But, anyway, thanks for the nice words :)
Keith then told me, "This is nothing personal against you, but if you're not going to take care of my wait staff, I don't want you in my restaurant. It's your right to not tip, but it's my right to not want you as a customer." I replied, "OK. I understand. Please refund my $4.00 and I'll leave. Can I have five minutes to say goodbye to my friends?" He allowed me five minutes.
As I was saying goodbye to my friends, Keith approached me and gave me my $4.00 and showed me the original receipt, explaining "It was an accident. The waitress though the zero you wrote on the tip line was a four, and you can see it does kind of look like a four." It did indeed look like a four. But I did not write it that way. When I write any dollar amount, ever, I write the full amount, like "$4.00" or "4.00" - never like "4" - but on the receipt, all that was written was "0" and that had a few extra lines and squiggles that made it look kind of like a "4." And the number "3" in the total amount at the bottom of the receipt had been written over as well, to make "$23.20" look like "$27.20" - I did not do that, either. I stuttered a few seconds, trying to find a polite way to tell Keith that it was not an accident, that his waitress intentionally stole my money, but I figured he was not going to un-ban me and I didn't see a point, so I just said, "OK."
I recognize that it is Keith's restaurant - his private property - and as such he has the right to choose his customers. I do not hold it against him that he banned me, or even that he disagrees with me about tipping. I am merely disappointed that I will no longer be able to go to Taproom Tuesdays. I really enjoyed that event. And there are some friends that I hardly ever see except there. Oh well, I'll have to make more of an effort to see them elsewhere.
This guy just doesn't believe people SHOULD tip. So he doesn't, even though he knows he pisses people off wherever he goes by so doing. And he wasn't banned.
This guy just doesn't believe people SHOULD tip. So he doesn't, even though he knows he pisses people off wherever he goes by so doing. And he wasn't banned.
That's fine. I waited on tables for about a year and some people didn't tip no matter what. It didn't matter much to me, they got the same level of service no matter what. I'd rather keep them as a customer in order to keep the business going so other people who do tip could come in and make up for it.
Now if no one tipped, I wouldn't have worked there. I think my hourly wage was ~$2.35/hour at that time. A terrible wage for the work that was required.
Getting bent out of shape over a tip is stupid. I still have yet to hear if the service was any good. If not, then I too would not tip.The service is a little slow when the place is packed. About like any bar.
1) It's a private business -- Murphy's rules, baby.
Manchester seems boring.
1) It's a private business -- Murphy's rules, baby.
1) It's a private business -- Murphy's rules, baby.That makes theft ok?
OTOH, the waitstaff are fucking hot and the outfits they wear are in that perfect grey area between respectable and slutty.Wasn't Ivy on the waitstaff?
I wonder if restaurants would pay waitstaff nothing if the law would allow it.
I take that as a yes.I wonder if restaurants would pay waitstaff nothing if the law would allow it.
They practically already do. The meager hourly wage you make up is chewed up by the Government in the form of taxes because you're making "tips" and you still get taxed on the tips at the end of the day. Assholes.
If you think tipping is stupid, OPEN UP YOUR OWN DAMN BAR and implement a no-tips policy. Have fun finding waitstaff!How hard can it be to find unskilled labor if you pay them a fair wage?
This guy just doesn't believe people SHOULD tip. So he doesn't, even though he knows he pisses people off wherever he goes by so doing. And he wasn't banned.
error...you smoke, right? ... cuz I've seen you in a video smoking outside of that place one time. So those "libertarians" don't let you smoke in there? How does that make you feel? Do you give tips for such amazing (<---sarcasm) "liberty-minded" hospitality?
Getting bent out of shape over a tip is stupid. I still have yet to hear if the service was any good. If not, then I too would not tip.The service is a little slow when the place is packed. About like any bar.
OTOH, the waitstaff are fucking hot and the outfits they wear are in that perfect grey area between respectable and slutty.
Murphy's FTW!
I wonder if restaurants would pay waitstaff nothing if the law would allow it.
Hello all, I am quite upset at the moment because of the betrayal I have experienced, but I must let it be known. Jesse moved up here as part of the free state project, claiming to be in search of liberty and to live by its principles but it has come to my attention that this is not the case. He stayed on my couch for two months, feeding me lies and stealing my food and who knows what else. Josh too has become the most recent victim of his and tonight, it has been (without a doubt) come to our attention that Jesse, or shall I say Cory M Malony (SP) is not who he claims to be. At this point I have no idea who he really is, because pretty much everything he says is a lie or something twisted beyond truth. I have talked to Josh about what Corry has been telling him, and nothing adds up. He is a master of manipulation, taking advantage of the compassion which he receives. For the past week, I have seen him claim to be working for Jack Shimick, while in actually, he has been womanizing, stealing, and promoting violence. I will now be counter protesting Jesse at his flag burn, if it is still going to happen. I would encourage all members of the free state project to disassociate from this individual, if you don't, you may be his next victim. I need to sleep now, but I thought I should warn you. I can't express the disappointment I'm feeling right now, but in the coming days I will tell more. I'm sorry to bring the bad news
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=211.msg1681;topicseen#msg1681
AnarchoJesse (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4091) is a fraud.QuoteHello all, I am quite upset at the moment because of the betrayal I have experienced, but I must let it be known. Jesse moved up here as part of the free state project, claiming to be in search of liberty and to live by its principles but it has come to my attention that this is not the case. He stayed on my couch for two months, feeding me lies and stealing my food and who knows what else. Josh too has become the most recent victim of his and tonight, it has been (without a doubt) come to our attention that Jesse, or shall I say Cory M Malony (SP) is not who he claims to be. At this point I have no idea who he really is, because pretty much everything he says is a lie or something twisted beyond truth. I have talked to Josh about what Corry has been telling him, and nothing adds up. He is a master of manipulation, taking advantage of the compassion which he receives. For the past week, I have seen him claim to be working for Jack Shimick, while in actually, he has been womanizing, stealing, and promoting violence. I will now be counter protesting Jesse at his flag burn, if it is still going to happen. I would encourage all members of the free state project to disassociate from this individual, if you don't, you may be his next victim. I need to sleep now, but I thought I should warn you. I can't express the disappointment I'm feeling right now, but in the coming days I will tell more. I'm sorry to bring the bad news
So, can you smoke in Murphy's Fagroom or not?I think it was no smoking before the NH smoking ban.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=211.msg1681;topicseen#msg1681QuoteHello all, I am quite upset at the moment because of the betrayal I have experienced, but I must let it be known. Jesse moved up here as part of the free state project, claiming to be in search of liberty and to live by its principles but it has come to my attention that this is not the case. He stayed on my couch for two months, feeding me lies and stealing my food and who knows what else. Josh too has become the most recent victim of his and tonight, it has been (without a doubt) come to our attention that Jesse, or shall I say Cory M Malony (SP) is not who he claims to be. At this point I have no idea who he really is, because pretty much everything he says is a lie or something twisted beyond truth. I have talked to Josh about what Corry has been telling him, and nothing adds up. He is a master of manipulation, taking advantage of the compassion which he receives. For the past week, I have seen him claim to be working for Jack Shimick, while in actually, he has been womanizing, stealing, and promoting violence. I will now be counter protesting Jesse at his flag burn, if it is still going to happen. I would encourage all members of the free state project to disassociate from this individual, if you don't, you may be his next victim. I need to sleep now, but I thought I should warn you. I can't express the disappointment I'm feeling right now, but in the coming days I will tell more. I'm sorry to bring the bad news
I'm going to deal with this ofline
Hello all, I am quite upset at the moment because of the betrayal I have experienced, but I must let it be known.
Jesse moved up here as part of the free state project, claiming to be in search of liberty and to live by its principles
but it has come to my attention that this is not the case.
He stayed on my couch for two months,
feeding me lies
and stealing my food
and who knows what else.
Josh too has become the most recent victim of this
and tonight, it has been (without a doubt) come to our attention that Jesse, or shall I say Cory M Malony (SP), is not who he claims to be.
At this point I have no idea who he really is, because pretty much everything he says is a lie or something twisted beyond truth.
I have talked to Josh about what Corry has been telling him, and nothing adds up.
He is a master of manipulation,
taking advantage of the compassion which he receives.
For the past week, I have seen him claim to be working for Jack Shimick,
while in actually, he has been womanizing,
stealing,
and promoting violence.
I will now be counter protesting Jesse at his flag burn, if it is still going to happen.
I would encourage all members of the free state project to disassociate from this individual,
if you don't, you may be his next victim.
I need to sleep now, but I thought I should warn you. I can't express the disappointment I'm feeling right now, but in the coming days I will tell more. I'm sorry to bring the bad news
Whats so surprising about grifters being attached to this crowd? I'd be surprised if there weren't any.
No, that isn't the proof the FSP is doomed to failure, it's just drama that makes the story worth following. The FSP is like a soap opera for some of us not involved.Whats so surprising about grifters being attached to this crowd? I'd be surprised if there weren't any.
Any time two Free Staters disagree or fight about anything, it proves the FSP is doomed to failure.
A businessman and Democratic Party politician, Lynch was elected on November 2, 2004, defeating Republican incumbent Craig Benson by a narrow margin. Lynch was the first challenger to defeat a one-term incumbent in New Hampshire in 78 years.
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Lynch was elected to a second two year term in a 74-26 landslide over Republican Jim Coburn. Lynch's coattails helped Democrats take over both houses of the State Legislature, and upset incumbent Congressmen Charlie Bass and Jeb Bradley. Lynch's 74 percent of the vote was the largest margin of victory ever in a New Hampshire gubernatorial race. [1] Lynch's poll numbers also improved following his successful reelection. His approval rating rose to 79% in November and his disapproval rating dropped to 17%.
Yeah and to give another side to this, comments from William in response to Zaphar's-Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMHello all, I am quite upset at the moment because of the betrayal I have experienced, but I must let it be known.
Emotional gibberish.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMJesse moved up here as part of the free state project, claiming to be in search of liberty and to live by its principles
FactQuote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMbut it has come to my attention that this is not the case.
Nothing in the rest of your statement is conclusive on this point.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMHe stayed on my couch for two months,
Paid? Not paid? What was agreed upon?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMfeeding me lies
Specifically?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMand stealing my food
Did you offer it or make it available? Was it really 'stealing'?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMand who knows what else.
That seems baseless.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMJosh too has become the most recent victim of this
Meaningless. Unless it comes from Josh, it's just hearsay.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMand tonight, it has been (without a doubt) come to our attention that Jesse, or shall I say Cory M Malony (SP), is not who he claims to be.
Entirely irrelevant. Many people don't use their real name especially online and that persona can carry over to everyday life. There are several Freestaters I can think of off the top of my head who are known only by nicknames or not their given name at any rate.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMAt this point I have no idea who he really is, because pretty much everything he says is a lie or something twisted beyond truth.
Gross generalization. I doubt that everything he says is a lie and who a person really is has nothing to do with their name.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMI have talked to Josh about what Corry has been telling him, and nothing adds up.
What needs to add up?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMHe is a master of manipulation,
Ooo, master no less. Not apprentice of manipulation?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMtaking advantage of the compassion which he receives.
Sounds like you 'gave' something but didn't freely give it and now you think someone owes you something.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMFor the past week, I have seen him claim to be working for Jack Shimick,
The work with Jack may have fallen through or might still happen.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMwhile in actually, he has been womanizing,
Who cares?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMstealing,
Prove it.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMand promoting violence.
A specious claim.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMI will now be counter protesting Jesse at his flag burn, if it is still going to happen.
What would be the point of that? Are you pissed about the flag getting burned and taking it out in other areas?Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMI would encourage all members of the free state project to disassociate from this individual,
You'll need to provide a lot more (I should say some) actual evidence and without the emotional baggage if you expect me to ostracize someone.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMif you don't, you may be his next victim.
Jesse isn't capable of victimizing me. In fact most so called "victims" are simply suffering the consequences of their poor choices and refusing to accept responsibility for them. The claim of victimhood allows them to avoid ever doing so.Quote from: zaphar on Today at 01:49 AMI need to sleep now, but I thought I should warn you. I can't express the disappointment I'm feeling right now, but in the coming days I will tell more. I'm sorry to bring the bad news
Please do get some rest and then, if you feel that Jesse has acted in a manner that would qualify for ostracism, try to present the case in a reasoned and factual manner.
I'd just like to say a lot of (or all of, I'm pretty sure of) has been resolved. Some miscommunications and misunderstandings that we talked through and straightened out. I have been a bit of a flake lately, but I haven't done much of anything wrong. Josh had some money that went missing, and naturally, being the guy that lives on his floor, he thought I had something to do with it. Thing is, as soon as he told me, I offered to help him out. I've also been paying Josh 5 bucks a day to sleep on his floor, and even offered to cover his first month and a deposit on an apartment we're trying to pick up to try and get him incentive to leave the shitty apartment he has now.
Thing is, we were all drunk, high, and we all have a bit of tension in our lives, and a single conversation blew it way out and up. We've all cleared it up, and reconciled whatever differences there have been.
Its another side to the statement made by Zaphar. Some of it was antagonistic I agree.Fuck you. I was just about to post it and had it in my clipboard.
Here is something else I'm betting Blackie isn't interested in posting in this thread -Quote from: Jesse "AnarchoJesse"I'd just like to say a lot of (or all of, I'm pretty sure of) has been resolved. Some miscommunications and misunderstandings that we talked through and straightened out. I have been a bit of a flake lately, but I haven't done much of anything wrong. Josh had some money that went missing, and naturally, being the guy that lives on his floor, he thought I had something to do with it. Thing is, as soon as he told me, I offered to help him out. I've also been paying Josh 5 bucks a day to sleep on his floor, and even offered to cover his first month and a deposit on an apartment we're trying to pick up to try and get him incentive to leave the shitty apartment he has now.
Thing is, we were all drunk, high, and we all have a bit of tension in our lives, and a single conversation blew it way out and up. We've all cleared it up, and reconciled whatever differences there have been.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=15904.msg267741;boardseen#new
He's AnarchoMartyr over there douche.
Thing is, we were all drunk, high, and we all have a bit of tension in our lives, and a single conversation blew it way out and up. We've all cleared it up, and reconciled whatever differences there have been.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=15904.msg267741;boardseen#new
A lot of the tension comes from being drunk, high, with no further plans other than being drunk and high again tomorrow. This is classic commune-style agenda-based living. The names and location and agenda are the only thing that changes.
A lot of the tension comes from being drunk, high, with no further plans other than being drunk and high again tomorrow. This is classic commune-style agenda-based living. The names and location and agenda are the only thing that changes.The original post didn't say what was stolen, so it made me think it was drugs, not money. If it was money, why not just say so.
Back to tipping...
Tipping a percentage of the bill is bullshit. Why should the waitress make more because I order an expensive meal?
The tip should be based on the amount of work she does, and the quality of the service, not the price of the meal.
Seems like tipping is about making the waitstaff try to up-sell. They work on a commission basis.
You know where to sign up.
I knew Jessie was a flake when I tried to purchase some of his labor notes. If he never replies to mails asking for such, how much luck do you think someone will be when they are just circulating, not buying them from the source?I asked him about doing some work in Grafton, and he responded on the forum, but not email. He's not looking for work.
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
what if they ask you if the report what they have to? All credit card tips have to be reported, and some restaurants are required to report a certain percententage per table, whether they get tipped that amount or less.... Do you tip them even less?
Just curious.
Back to tipping...
Tipping a percentage of the bill is bullshit. Why should the waitress make more because I order an expensive meal?
The tip should be based on the amount of work she does, and the quality of the service, not the price of the meal.
Seems like tipping is about making the waitstaff try to up-sell. They work on a commission basis.
Five for myself, ten if I'm footing the bill for me and my kids plus another adult. If I'm going upscale I go with 20% because those people get taxed on some kind of average take, and I know that going in. I could choose not to enter. If they suck, I cut back.
For below-average service I tip 10-15%. But if the service is really lousy, I will tip $0.25 exctly, just to make it clear I didn't siomply forget -- it's an intentional disrespect, given in reciprocity.
He's AnarchoMartyr over there douche.
What are you doing posting on here and not out working on the crops, boy?
Why argue with this cockmonger? :D
(The same reason I like playing with Luke over on the NHLA forum, I take it?)
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
what if they ask you if the report what they have to? All credit card tips have to be reported, and some restaurants are required to report a certain percententage per table, whether they get tipped that amount or less.... Do you tip them even less?
Just curious.
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
what if they ask you if the report what they have to? All credit card tips have to be reported, and some restaurants are required to report a certain percententage per table, whether they get tipped that amount or less.... Do you tip them even less?
Just curious.
you'll note that I stated "my" gifts...
I'm not a party to any of their other contracts with other individuals...
but I DO want to know if those I choose to contract with...are...in any way/shape/form...funding the perpetual perpetration of aggression/force/fraud upon peaceful people...
and I make every attempt to deny the mobocracy ANY fruits...even indirect fruits...if at all possible...
(realizing, of course, that the farmer that supplied the fresh foods to the local vendors might very well be receiving some sort of subsidy...and just not disclosing that)
Do you have your period, or are you always a bitch?He's AnarchoMartyr over there douche.
What are you doing posting on here and not out working on the crops, boy?
Why argue with this cockmonger? :D
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
what if they ask you if the report what they have to? All credit card tips have to be reported, and some restaurants are required to report a certain percententage per table, whether they get tipped that amount or less.... Do you tip them even less?
Just curious.
you'll note that I stated "my" gifts...
I'm not a party to any of their other contracts with other individuals...
but I DO want to know if those I choose to contract with...are...in any way/shape/form...funding the perpetual perpetration of aggression/force/fraud upon peaceful people...
and I make every attempt to deny the mobocracy ANY fruits...even indirect fruits...if at all possible...
(realizing, of course, that the farmer that supplied the fresh foods to the local vendors might very well be receiving some sort of subsidy...and just not disclosing that)
Wow, I wouldn't want to be your server. You're too complicated. 8)
I ask them if they "report" my gifts to them...
if they say yes they get less...
if they say no they get more...
go figure...
what if they ask you if the report what they have to? All credit card tips have to be reported, and some restaurants are required to report a certain percententage per table, whether they get tipped that amount or less.... Do you tip them even less?
Just curious.
you'll note that I stated "my" gifts...
I'm not a party to any of their other contracts with other individuals...
but I DO want to know if those I choose to contract with...are...in any way/shape/form...funding the perpetual perpetration of aggression/force/fraud upon peaceful people...
and I make every attempt to deny the mobocracy ANY fruits...even indirect fruits...if at all possible...
(realizing, of course, that the farmer that supplied the fresh foods to the local vendors might very well be receiving some sort of subsidy...and just not disclosing that)
Wow, I wouldn't want to be your server. You're too complicated. 8)
while that's your choice...I've been known to "gift" by up to six hundred percent...
still "too" "complicated"...
I find it interesting that the owner has denied the ban, he states that he told Mike to not eat at his restaurant if he doesn't intend on tipping, but that he didn't ban him. I also find it interesting that at the 2 FSP owned restaurants in NH, they both give discounts to the police and fire departments, but no discounts to the FSP members who have without a doubt contributed heavily to the success of the establishments.
at the 2 FSP owned restaurants in NH, they both give discounts to the police and fire departments
Quoteat the 2 FSP owned restaurants in NH, they both give discounts to the police and fire departments
:shock:
that's some fuckin' bullshit.
What I don't get is how they can have the Sunday Socials or whatever the fuck they're called at Murphy's, when he obviously believes in an anti-freedom agenda. Why don't they pick Wendy's or Pizza Hut, the real anarchist establishments?
Reminds me of an incident when I lived in Mississippi in a white redneck bar when a whole bunch of black deputies came in to the bar and proceeded to make it a point to stare down every patron in there, including me. As if to say "yeah, see I'm a cop and I'm black and have a gun and could arrest you in two seconds, honky". It came down to the same attitude I've run across in most cops "I can do what I want and make sure everyone knows it.".
Reminds me of an incident when I lived in Mississippi in a white redneck bar when a whole bunch of black deputies came in to the bar and proceeded to make it a point to stare down every patron in there, including me. As if to say "yeah, see I'm a cop and I'm black and have a gun and could arrest you in two seconds, honky". It came down to the same attitude I've run across in most cops "I can do what I want and make sure everyone knows it.".
I just wanted everyone to know what happened to me at Murphy's tonight. I do not want to start another controversy about tipping all over again, just about the practice that happened to me. I had a tab of $4 something for 2 beers. I gave the waitress a $20, and she gave me back $14 change and walked away. Then she comes back and asks me if she did something wrong because I didn't tip her, and about how she only makes $3.65 a hour. I said excuse me but you gave me $14 change, which means you got your tip in the payment. Now I do not have a problem tipping, however when you didn't give all my change back, so I considered that your tip.
What do you guys think? I think that is kind of a questionable practice to not give back all of ones change, without the customer acknowledging keep the change. What really irks me is that this practice seems to vary amongst all the wait staff there. Some will give me back all of my change, while others will not.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16299.0QuoteI just wanted everyone to know what happened to me at Murphy's tonight. I do not want to start another controversy about tipping all over again, just about the practice that happened to me. I had a tab of $4 something for 2 beers. I gave the waitress a $20, and she gave me back $14 change and walked away. Then she comes back and asks me if she did something wrong because I didn't tip her, and about how she only makes $3.65 a hour. I said excuse me but you gave me $14 change, which means you got your tip in the payment. Now I do not have a problem tipping, however when you didn't give all my change back, so I considered that your tip.
What do you guys think? I think that is kind of a questionable practice to not give back all of ones change, without the customer acknowledging keep the change. What really irks me is that this practice seems to vary amongst all the wait staff there. Some will give me back all of my change, while others will not.
I'm never going to say I'm the quickest at arithmetic but I can count backwards to 20.00
there are just some kids that don't have any skills OR any basic knowledge of English or mathematics
I'm never going to say I'm the quickest at arithmetic but I can count backwards to 20.00
there are just some kids that don't have any skills OR any basic knowledge of English or mathematics
I'm never going to say I'm the quickest at arithmetic but I can count backwards to 20.00
there are just some kids that don't have any skills OR any basic knowledge of English or mathematics
Rifleman robs NH country store
Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008
GRAFTON – A masked man armed with a long rifle last night robbed the Grafton Country Store on Route 4.
Police said the man entered the store carrying a rifle, immediately demanded money from the clerk and tried unsuccessfully to pull the cash register off the counter.
He ran out of the store empty-handed and got into a vehicle believed to be a gray Volvo that headed north on Route 4. Witnesses chased after the car but were unable to catch up to it.
The Volvo was last seen on Cross Road in Canaan. Investigators do not know if more than one person was involved in the robbery.
The robber is described as possibly being in his early 20s, about 6 feet tall, with a slim build and wearing a black sweatshirt and camouflage face mask.
Police are following up on several leads.
Anyone with information is asked to call State Police, Troop F, at 846-3333. Trooper Alex Davis is heading the investigation.
I'm never going to say I'm the quickest at arithmetic but I can count backwards to 20.00
there are just some kids that don't have any skills OR any basic knowledge of English or mathematics
What you say is so true. I was playing monopoly during thanksgiving with the siblings and mom, and my brother's Fiance's Kids couldn't even count the dots on the dice without using their fingers, Let alone calculate the rents in the game... You've just gotta love the public education system...
It was Ian. Now that he's used to life "on the inside" he'll do anything to go back.:lol:
"Murphy" could solve this by:
a. paying the wait staff a fixed wage, and advertising no tipping allowed.
b. re-educating wait staff in simple mathematics.
c. replace current inept wait staff.
Grafton Country store attempted robbery
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=f4fe24f2-2427-4338-b2d1-13127236bb27QuoteRifleman robs NH country store
Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008
GRAFTON – A masked man armed with a long rifle last night robbed the Grafton Country Store on Route 4.
Police said the man entered the store carrying a rifle, immediately demanded money from the clerk and tried unsuccessfully to pull the cash register off the counter.
He ran out of the store empty-handed and got into a vehicle believed to be a gray Volvo that headed north on Route 4. Witnesses chased after the car but were unable to catch up to it.
The Volvo was last seen on Cross Road in Canaan. Investigators do not know if more than one person was involved in the robbery.
The robber is described as possibly being in his early 20s, about 6 feet tall, with a slim build and wearing a black sweatshirt and camouflage face mask.
Police are following up on several leads.
Anyone with information is asked to call State Police, Troop F, at 846-3333. Trooper Alex Davis is heading the investigation.
Free staters questioned :lol:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16304.0
if he was a local he would know that many people in NH(especially that area) carry sidearms both open and concealed...The only people I have seen open carry in that area are cops. That goes for all of NH. I think I saw maybe two people open carrying in NH during the 8 years I lived there, not including me and hunters. It's not common.
You can get in on the formation of this wonderful grassroots political organization .... The FSP .... The Free State Party.
We need to formulate our Party platform and start running candidates in elections on extremist freedom issues. We are looking for a few good men who are willing to push that big red Rothbardian button.
For those that just can't stomach the politics ... then they can fight them through the NH Underground or go agorist by living in the Shire.
NH Underground - Civil Disobedience, hiding refugees, poking the government
Shire residency - Agorist lifestyle, funny costumes
Free State Party - Radical Politics
proposed party platform planks:
NH secession in 2009
NH secession in 2010
UN Free Zone
glass hovels for government bureaucrats
holding politicians feet to the fire (porcupine brand optional)
Party Headquarters located in beautiful Grafton, NH ... the center of the political revolution.
We were talking about this at the NHLA Board meeting last night. We agreed it would be a good thing for them to actually go through with this. A group being really principled and no prayer of winning any elections makes a less principled group appear more mainstream.
We were talking about this at the NHLA Board meeting last night. We agreed it would be a good thing for them to actually go through with this. A group being really principled and no prayer of winning any elections makes a less principled group appear more mainstream.
fixed.
We were talking about this at the NHLA Board meeting last night. We agreed it would be a good thing for them to actually go through with this. A group being really principled and no prayer of winning any elections makes a less principled group appear more mainstream.
fixed.
Assuming your correction is accurate, so was the intial post.
He's got 6 charges against him - speeding, open container, gun with no concealed carry license, not showing up for court ( can't remember the other two I guess ). 3 were like tickets, 3 were criminal charges.
Mike Barskey arrested 02-01-09
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16982.0
He's got 6 charges against him - speeding, open container, gun with no concealed carry license, not showing up for court ( can't remember the other two I guess ). 3 were like tickets, 3 were criminal charges.
I thought that mother fucker hated politics?
Well, I'd sure like to know, because it seems that I'm back in it. It has come to my attention that people have been saying things about me --hurtful things-- to other people, and hasn't seen fit enough to bring it up with me, personally. I'll be the first to admit I fucked up when I got here, and that I took advantage of a few people out of my stupidity. I will roundly and deeply list what I consider my character flaws:
-- I mooched off of Dale, Eric, Tim, and Nick for my first few months here. I did the same to Josh. However, I've been told (because I'm aware of my failings as an individual and had asked) that I was square with them. I had been under the impression that any debts I had owed were paid in full, and that we were square. If I've been wrong, I invite you to get in touch with me and let me know how much I owe. I've been on my own two feet for a while (sort of, which I will explain), and have the ability to take care of myself.
-- I was robbed on an enormous scale (relative to my savings, that is), and I have been in situations where I need to call the person who took my money and beg for it. Money I earned, money I planned on living off of. Someone has seen fit to declare this "asking for money from Daddy when the cash runs out"; while this is accurate, it's out of context. The money is mine, and I have to jump through hoops to get it.
-- I admittedly have a bad temper. Whoever has been speaking about me has seen fit to declare that I am "violently" so, but this is horseshit. I've only once been anything even remotely close to physical when I pulled a knife after my best friend challenged me to a fist fight in my own home. When I rage, I yell. When I yell, I've got my only way to vent. Healthy? No, probably not, but I'm far from violent, and to characterize me as such is a gross injustice.
-- I can exaggerate sometimes. Nothing ridiculous or bad, but I can sometimes say things that aren't quite the 100% truth. Not lies, but embellishments because I get carried away with my emotions.
Needless to say, I am not the best, most perfect, greatest man or libertarian alive-- but then, who is? Who ever has seen fit to talk to other members of the FSP and Shaunna without approaching me first, please bring your issues to me. I'm just trying my hardest to get by, and do what I can. I have something good, and you're sabotaging that, which I won't stand for.
Until I receive an answer though, I'm going to try my best to avoid most FSP types barring my roommates. I don't know who is saying these things, but I'm sure as hell not comfortable being around them when they have the penchant for talking behind backs.
LOL GANDHI is bullshit.
Wow. He even dresses like an Anarchist brat. This demands respect, Yo.
"We don't want to take our hats off in a court room...WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!" -STFU. And stand, asshole.
Wow. He even dresses like an Anarchist brat. This demands respect, Yo.
"We don't want to take our hats off in a court room...WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!" -STFU. And stand, asshole.
wat
Wow. He even dresses like an Anarchist brat. This demands respect, Yo.
"We don't want to take our hats off in a court room...WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!" -STFU. And stand, asshole.
wat
Brokor's a huge douchebag.
If you're gonna be an anarchist, you must conform to the accepted counterculture behaviors.
If you're gonna be an anarchist,you must conform to the accepted counterculture behaviors.
Wow. He even dresses like an Anarchist brat. This demands respect, Yo.
"We don't want to take our hats off in a court room...WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!" -STFU. And stand, asshole.
By won, do you mean he was convicted of disorderly conduct?Wow. He even dresses like an Anarchist brat. This demands respect, Yo.
"We don't want to take our hats off in a court room...WAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!" -STFU. And stand, asshole.
Jesse won. He beat the judge and the court system.
Two Keene men arrested after failing to remove their hats at the court on Feb. 2 were convicted on misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges.
He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing. Lets hold a fucking parade in his honor.
He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing.
Lol I just saw this thread bumped. Is this the thread that talks about all the dramatic things that happen between us here?
Damn you should have been behind the scenes of Free Minds TV a few years back.
If you're gonna be an anarchist,you must conform to the accepted counterculture behaviors.
He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing. Lets hold a fucking parade in his honor.
What happend to his morals during the trial? I see he wore a suit and no hat.He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing. Lets hold a fucking parade in his honor.
He went to jail for his morals. Later, he went back to the same courtroom and showed the NH Constitution and said he was going to wear a hat. The same judge backed down and Jesse won.
What happend to his morals during the trial? I see he wore a suit and no hat.He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing. Lets hold a fucking parade in his honor.
He went to jail for his morals. Later, he went back to the same courtroom and showed the NH Constitution and said he was going to wear a hat. The same judge backed down and Jesse won.
(http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=NS&Date=20090226&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=302269848&Ref=H2&MaxW=580&title=1)
You can bet that if someone is gripping her wrist behind her back rather than just her hand she's holding back frustration.
http://jewhampshire.com/
It's a Joey Dauben site. He hasn't been around here lately.
Last time was when he annonced the would run the Barry Cooper for Texas Attorney General (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=26897.msg507047#msg507047) campaign
Lol I just saw this thread bumped. Is this the thread that talks about all the dramatic things that happen between us here?
Damn you should have been behind the scenes of Free Minds TV a few years back.
Ok, Immagonnaask: what happened behind the scenes?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17608.0
He made an ass out of himself, wasted his time and a bunch of other people's time and he changed nothing. Lets hold a fucking parade in his honor.
He went to jail for his morals. Later, he went back to the same courtroom and showed the NH Constitution and said he was going to wear a hat. The same judge backed down and Jesse won.
LOL Sandy. Always a fuckin' cunt.
LOL Sandy. Always a fuckin' cunt.
not everyone feels that way
I want to know the back story... what Sandy is really mad about.
If you don't tell me, I'm gunna make something up.
well...you know Dave lost his job over his associations and activismNo, I didn't know. That's fucked up, but not surprising.
Demand for work causes gridlock at NH job fair
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Three generations of job seekers — more than 10,000 — descended on a job fair at a New Hampshire college gymnasium Thursday, jamming traffic for miles and forcing organizers to cut off admission to the event after just two hours.
Officials shut down shuttle bus service from a nearby mall to the overwhelmed Southern New Hampshire University campus by noon, several hours before the heavily publicized event was to end.
Job applicants ranging from college students to unemployed executives in their 60s waited in seemingly endless lines for buses to the event, then to speak with recruiters, then for buses back to their cars. Police Lt. Maureen Tessier gave an unofficial crowd estimate of more than 10,000, and many hundreds more were turned away.
"People are very serious about employment and not just running around grabbing goodies for the sake of filling up goodie bags," said Don Legere, who was looking to hire people for his financial services firm Modern Woodmen of America.
He was seeing about 25 people an hour, looking to hire two to four people immediately and another six to eight by the end of the year.
"I've seen a lot of good, quality people," he said.
Maureen Maslanka, 52, of Nashua, was laid off in September from an electronics job. She said she left the event, her first job fair, "a little optimistic."
"I spoke with the people that I've been sending resumes over and over and over to," she said. "So I got to give it to them by hand."
Chris Duchaine, 32, of Johnson, Vt., got shut out because of the gridlock.
Duchaine and a friend drove to Manchester after dropping off resumes at a job fair in Massachusetts Thursday morning, but he got there after the shuttle buses stopped running. Duchaine joked that he met people in line in Massachusetts who already had been to the Manchester event.
He was philosophical, even though he struck out in Manchester.
"The effort you put in is what you get out," Duchaine said, mentioning that a friend who hunted hard just landed a job paying 25 percent more than one he lost.
Sponsors WMUR-TV, the state and the college said more than 150 employers looking to fill 1,500 full- and part-time jobs took part, including Burger King, the U.S. Secret Service and defense contractor BAE Systems.
General Manager Jeff Bartlett said the turnout was far more than anyone expected.
"I think the bottom line to all of us, despite all the traffic problems, is that hundreds and maybe over a thousand people will get a job out of this job fair and that's a pretty good day if you can put that many people back to work," Bartlett said.
New Hampshire's unemployment was 5.3 percent in February, the most recent month available. That translated to 39,290 people seeking jobs.
Calls are coming in over Porc411.
Sam Dodson, (SamIAm) was arrested at Keene district Court for recording without bureaucrat permission. He was then dragged off and beaten by court officers. Several callers report Sam screaming while being taken to a back room.
He continued to scream, once caller commented and mentioned Sam "being beaten back there" and not letting people watch.
The activists were them told to leave and many refused. Backup was called leading to what was described by one caller as "The entire Keene PD here". Reports indicate that the entire group was detained (legally). Several arrestest occured, including several activists physically being hauled out of hte place. it is confirmed that there WAS a reporter for the Keene Sentinel there, but not detained. One caller reports that Sam is being taken to the hospital.
Of those arrested for SURE are Sam, David Krouse and Tim Danforth but several others were as well.
Are they carrying that guy facedown by his arms and legs?
was he referring to concentration camps? Good point.
Several people arrested in incident at Keene District Court today
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Updated April 13, 3:15 p.m.
By Sentinel Staff
Published: Monday, April 13, 2009
Several people were arrested and others were issued summonses in the Keene District Court lobby today after allegedly refusing to leave the room.
Ian “Freeman” Bernard of the Free State Project said 15 to 20 activists had flocked to the court to hear the arraignment of Dave Ridley. Ridley was arrested in March and charged with disorderly conduct, accused of refusing to turn off a video camera he’d brought to the arraignment of a marijuana activist.
Ridley was arrested and charged before making it into the courtroom.
From the accounts of people affiliated with the Free State movement, history repeated itself Tuesday when Keene resident Samuel Dodson was accused of running his video camera while in the district court lobby.
After his arrest, Dodson —under the eyes of police — appeared to be lying on the floor behind a conference room door. A sound like someone yelling came from behind the door, which prompted the activists at the scene to question what was happening and to criticize the police.
Keene police Sgt. Eliezer Rivera told people not affiliated with the case to leave the room and said those who refused to do so would receive summonses. Many did so, but within minutes, police began either issuing summonses or handcuffing those who remained.
For the full story, see Tuesday’s Sentinel.
-Jesse has little to no gardening knowlege. |
-Jesse avoided eye contact with the cop. |
-There is a guy selling hot dogs in Keene? Nice! |
-anarchir has no spell-check. So what?
-People like me who look at a computer screen up to 20 hours a day have very tired eyes. Exhausting them further by looking at a pig's mug would be ridiculous.
-Street food is nice but hot dogs suck - I wish it was easier to buy healthier snacks.
-Street food is nice but hot dogs suck - I wish it was easier to buy healthier snacks.That sounds like a personal problem.
If anyone sees a stall selling carrot sticks and green tea, let me know.
Peeled carrot sticks without refrigeration all day - yuck.
I can't argue with that.
Now, wasn't this thread about something important? I forget...
Anarcho Jesse pulls gun on drunk people.
http://qik.com/video/1451881
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=793.0
Whoa. Just heard Dale's Porc 411. Apparently anyone associated with this website is no longer welcome at the Keene community kitchen. Guess they have way too many volunteers if they are turning down peaceful liberty loving activists' assistance.
Does this also mean they will no longer be accepting contributions from us either?
I'm interested to hear the comments of whomever it is at the Community Kitchen that made this decision, presumably because of the publicity surrounding yesterday's events.
Keene Community Kitchen does not want volunteers from Free Keene
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=637.msg6486#msg6486
Ian:QuoteWhoa. Just heard Dale's Porc 411. Apparently anyone associated with this website is no longer welcome at the Keene community kitchen. Guess they have way too many volunteers if they are turning down peaceful liberty loving activists' assistance.
Does this also mean they will no longer be accepting contributions from us either?
I'm interested to hear the comments of whomever it is at the Community Kitchen that made this decision, presumably because of the publicity surrounding yesterday's events.
Ostracism backfire.
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
I should drive up there on Thursday and cause some drama.
Danger to self and others.
I should drive up there on Thursday and cause some drama.
RL courthouse goatse FTW.
No, do it for FreeKeeneI should drive up there on Thursday and cause some drama.
RL courthouse goatse FTW.
I should call a press conference for the FSP. And then strip naked while open carrying in front of the cameras.
No, do it for FreeKeeneI should drive up there on Thursday and cause some drama.
RL courthouse goatse FTW.
I should call a press conference for the FSP. And then strip naked while open carrying in front of the cameras.
I talked to Gail today after dinner. She said that this issue had escalated to a "national level" and that the board decided, in the best interest of the community kitchen, to not be involved with the Free Keene group. I asked if this was because of the actions of one person; she said no. She said their attorney could contact me if I wanted more information, so I left my name and number.
I talked to Yadra and he said he hadn't been filing complaints against them (the only idea I had for how this could have gone "national"). In fact, I think the Yadra's involvement in this has been exaggerated. He says he only took up about 5 minutes of Gail's time and spent the rest of the time just reviewing the form by himself.
Gail and the other board members view FreeKeene.com as a group. They don't realize that it's just a bunch of individuals checking and posting to the site. We don't pay dues; we have no board of directors or structure.
I have no idea what they're problem is with Free Keene, but it's something they've talked to an attorney about and it's something they don't want to say to us in order to defend themselves or protect someone's reputation, but I don't know what.
I told Gail that as a member of the community, I was saddened to be excluded on the basis of my affiliations. When I volunteered a few mondays ago, I followed the rules and helped out. Gail talked about how they had no interest in publicly criticizing Free Keene, but I told her that it was the community kitchen that would probably receive scrutiny for rejecting volunteers and yet requesting city funds.
It is unacceptable that there is no transparency in this decision. I think a group of Free Keene bloggers should hold a meeting with the board to discuss exactly what is going on. The Community Kitchen's decision to disallow "anyone in the Free Keene group" to volunteer only hurts the needy population it is trying to help.
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Anarcho Jesse pulls gun on drunk people.
http://qik.com/video/1451881
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=793.0
*Sigh*
I'd like to know:
1. Why the gun wasn't fucking cocked and chambered in the first place.
2. Why he felt the need to brandish.
3. Why he chose to go confront people because they called him names.
Bad gun handling all around. And then he talked about his military experience as a way of justifying that he knew how to handle his guns. Sheesh.
I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Funny how I didn't even know that and could tell that the dude is a gun safety menace. *Sigh*
No, do it for FreeKeeneI should drive up there on Thursday and cause some drama.
RL courthouse goatse FTW.
I should call a press conference for the FSP. And then strip naked while open carrying in front of the cameras.
The FSP needs somenewNUDE publicity.
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Has anyone setup a gun safety training program for FSP movers? Everyone coming in might not be properly trained in the handling of firearms. A bunch of newbies getting all excited without really knowing how to handle gun before excising the open carry option sounds like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
Someone should approach Shaw and entice him to fly out and do a biannual training program.
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Has anyone setup a gun safety training program for FSP movers? Everyone coming in might not be properly trained in the handling of firearms. A bunch of newbies getting all excited without really knowing how to handle gun before excising the open carry option sounds like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
Someone should approach Shaw and entice him to fly out and do a biannual training program.
plenty of good instructors in NH...both native and immigrants...
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Has anyone setup a gun safety training program for FSP movers? Everyone coming in might not be properly trained in the handling of firearms. A bunch of newbies getting all excited without really knowing how to handle gun before excising the open carry option sounds like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
Someone should approach Shaw and entice him to fly out and do a biannual training program.
plenty of good instructors in NH...both native and immigrants...
I was thinking of something free of charge and above and beyond the regular type of gun safety program.
Bad gun handling all around.I'll never forget, the one time I saw him at the State House. He was OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) and -- so help me god -- he dropped his gun and holster, while fumbling in his pockets.
This was in a highly populated hallway, people shuffling to and fro between hearings.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun!
Intelligent guy.... no common sense. Danger to self and others.
Has anyone setup a gun safety training program for FSP movers? Everyone coming in might not be properly trained in the handling of firearms. A bunch of newbies getting all excited without really knowing how to handle gun before excising the open carry option sounds like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
Someone should approach Shaw and entice him to fly out and do a biannual training program.
plenty of good instructors in NH...both native and immigrants...
I was thinking of something free of charge and above and beyond the regular type of gun safety program.
I'm sorry...I can't find where I mentioned a "charge"...or the type or quality of an individual program?
A Candia, NH woman has turned herself in to police after several animal cruelty charges were filed against her.So it turns out it was a freestater working for this lady that called the SPCA and started this whole process in motion.
http://www.wmur.com/video/19023226/index.html
A Candia, NH woman has turned herself in to police after several animal cruelty charges were filed against her.So it turns out it was a freestater working for this lady that called the SPCA and started this whole process in motion.
http://www.wmur.com/video/19023226/index.html
But hey, just like Beth we're all still living and learning...some faster than others...
I haven't met him, nothing against him I just disagree with the way he runs his business if what has been said is true. If police and firemen get discounts I really have a problem with that and I will vote with my dollar and eat at Wendy's.It's called "paying off the cops to keep them off your ass". Why is that so morally depraved?
I would like confirmation that this is true, but I somehow believe it.
But hey, just like Beth we're all still living and learning...some faster than others...
What!?! Beth doesn't get the RaD? Are you getting soft? Is she cute?
Everyone coming in might not be properly trained in the handling of firearms.
A bunch of newbies getting all excited without really knowing how to handle gun before exercising the open carry option sounds like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
Someone should approach Shaw and entice him to fly out and do a biannual training program.
Whoop-sie! Dropped my gun! |
That's why I don't carry a gun. I know I'm a clumsy idiot, and I just never cared for guns in the first 2.5 decades of his life. Better leave it to the professionals. (I mean free market professionals, obviously.)
Kids don't shoot projectiles when mishandled, and they're very resilient. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing my parents did or could have done that would be worse for me than not being born. Even if you end up a socially retarded forum troll, it's still a life worth living. But that's just me.
That's why I don'tcarry a gunhave a kid. I knowI'm a clumsy idiotI'd be a bad parent, and I just never cared forgunschildren in the first2.53.4 decades ofhismy life. Better leave it to the professionals. (I mean free market professionals, obviously.)
You can give someone gun safety classes all you want but it isn't going to do a lick of good if the person is a fucking idiot like Anarcho-Jesse.(http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?action=dlattach%3Battach=61%3Btype=avatar)
You can give someone gun safety classes all you want but it isn't going to do a lick of good if the person is a fucking idiot like Anarcho-Jesse.
OC'ing (generally not a good idea, and the people who are first to ask you to stop are the people who have been fighting for gun rights for 30+ years in NH) …
There are FSPers and native Friends of the FSP that are credentialed (I forget with what organization(s)) to give regular gun safety classes, and to train other people in giving gun safety classes. I believe one of the FSP state reps is one such person.
But that's just it -- the kind of people that go to (and teach) such classes are, by and large, the kind of people that run (credible) campaigns for for State Rep.
They are also not the kind of people to put their Free-Stater status or general philosophy right in the face of everyone they interact with.
They are the kind of people that quietly, competently volunteer at a soup kitchen... without making a drama out of it.
Anyone who’s gone out to Ron’s range has gotten a crash course in gun safety.
AJ is a fed.
AJ is a fed.
Start backing the statement up please. /curious
AJ is a fed.
Start backing the statement up please. /curious
It's Bonerjoe. There's nothing to back up. He's kidding, you see.
Bonerjoe = Class clown.
Ron who?
AJ is a fed.
Start backing the statement up please. /curious
It's Bonerjoe. There's nothing to back up. He's kidding, you see.
Bonerjoe = Class clown.
He's not kidding. He was talking about Alex Jones.
Isn't he trying to sell his place?Ron who?
Helwig. There’s info about the range at http://ronhelwig.com/, but the site seems to be down now, so I can’t link directly to the right page.
^^ Thought he meant AnarchoJesse. ^ Something to read, thx.
AJ is a fed.
Start backing the statement up please. /curious
It's Bonerjoe. There's nothing to back up. He's kidding, you see.
Bonerjoe = Class clown.
He's not kidding. He was talking about Alex Jones.
Doh! I thought he was talking about AnarchoJesse. My bad.
So, I've been getting phone calls and emails asking about Lumpy's somewhat cryptic message here. And today I got the official notice in the mail, so I figured I could mention it at this point. Unless some miracle happens we are going to have to close the restaurant. And there's more.
I've been kinda vague about our financial situation here up til now, but let me explain a bit:
When the opportunity to open up this restaurant came up, we were a bit skeptical but hopeful that we could make it work. We had no money to our name, but I had one person who believed in my coking abilities who was willing to invest the first month's rent, and Bill had a credit card with a high limit. Initially Bill decided to fund this project all on credit to the tune of approximately $17,000K.
We opened on September 12th - the tail end of the busy season. I've mentioned to people lately that "we get about 4 customers a week" - it's been that way since November. In fact, we made more money in the last two weeks of September, than any other month at all. In fact, those two weeks in September were nearly double the next-highest month's income.
As months passed, and we had no customers, Bill decided to dig into his nest egg. His mother had put aside $20K for him to use as a down-payment on a home.
We used it all.
So, huge debt, then drained nest-egg, next step was to stop paying certain invoices that maybe weren't necessary. So first the DirectTV was shut off, then they came and took the dumpster away.
Then we progressively got behind in necessary utilities. Once a necessary utility gets shut off, we will be forced to close our doors with not a penny to our name and no way of earning any of it back.
I've mentioned recently the electric would "probably" be shut of in the next couple weeks? Yeah. I got the disconnect notice today.
Date of Disconnect: April 28th.
my birthday no less....
Cry
On top of that, the place we stay at in Grafton is not our property, and the end of our contract is May 1st.
So we will be broke, in tons of debt, and homeless by May 1st. So that's the story. You heard it straight from the horse's mouth, since I know the rumor mill has other (mis)information...
I don't have a plan. I've been sending out resumes since mid December and not had one bite. I sent Peter to mom's house last week and he'll stay there for now until we figure something out. If there was some way to make it through until next month, that's *supposedly* when this town becomes busy again. If we could "make it" to the busy season, we'd make all our money back and then some (supposedly), but again, unless there's some miracle, I don't see how we can make it. I've tried selling personal stuff, I've tried having fundraisers, if our house hadn't gotten broken in to in January and all my jewelry and all of our gold and silver coins stolen, we would have sold those by now - but it is what it is...
Thanks Ian. Certainly appreciated.
Well, just to pay off the electric bill and pay upcoming rent will be $2500.00. But then there's keeping food stocked, keeping the phone on, travel expenses, labor expenses if we're away for some reason. We're probably talking about $5,000.00. It's a lot. We really drownded ourselves... *sigh* you live you learn I suppose.
I thought I sent you an email. I will check on that. My apologies. But I will say, I don't want this issue to be confused with Sam's case. This is a personal issue and if people want to help, we certainly appreciate it. But I'm helping Sam because I care for him and I admire him and I am so very grateful for what he does here in this state.
I was wondering how Ivy started and kept her restaurant going.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=818.msg6897;topicseen#msg6897QuoteSo, I've been getting phone calls and emails asking about Lumpy's somewhat cryptic message here. And today I got the official notice in the mail, so I figured I could mention it at this point. Unless some miracle happens we are going to have to close the restaurant. And there's more.
I've been kinda vague about our financial situation here up til now, but let me explain a bit:
When the opportunity to open up this restaurant came up, we were a bit skeptical but hopeful that we could make it work. We had no money to our name, but I had one person who believed in my coking abilities who was willing to invest the first month's rent, and Bill had a credit card with a high limit. Initially Bill decided to fund this project all on credit to the tune of approximately $17,000K.
We opened on September 12th - the tail end of the busy season. I've mentioned to people lately that "we get about 4 customers a week" - it's been that way since November. In fact, we made more money in the last two weeks of September, than any other month at all. In fact, those two weeks in September were nearly double the next-highest month's income.
As months passed, and we had no customers, Bill decided to dig into his nest egg. His mother had put aside $20K for him to use as a down-payment on a home.
We used it all.
So, huge debt, then drained nest-egg, next step was to stop paying certain invoices that maybe weren't necessary. So first the DirectTV was shut off, then they came and took the dumpster away.
Then we progressively got behind in necessary utilities. Once a necessary utility gets shut off, we will be forced to close our doors with not a penny to our name and no way of earning any of it back.
I've mentioned recently the electric would "probably" be shut of in the next couple weeks? Yeah. I got the disconnect notice today.
Date of Disconnect: April 28th.
my birthday no less....
Cry
On top of that, the place we stay at in Grafton is not our property, and the end of our contract is May 1st.
So we will be broke, in tons of debt, and homeless by May 1st. So that's the story. You heard it straight from the horse's mouth, since I know the rumor mill has other (mis)information...QuoteI don't have a plan. I've been sending out resumes since mid December and not had one bite. I sent Peter to mom's house last week and he'll stay there for now until we figure something out. If there was some way to make it through until next month, that's *supposedly* when this town becomes busy again. If we could "make it" to the busy season, we'd make all our money back and then some (supposedly), but again, unless there's some miracle, I don't see how we can make it. I've tried selling personal stuff, I've tried having fundraisers, if our house hadn't gotten broken in to in January and all my jewelry and all of our gold and silver coins stolen, we would have sold those by now - but it is what it is...
Thanks Ian. Certainly appreciated.QuoteWell, just to pay off the electric bill and pay upcoming rent will be $2500.00. But then there's keeping food stocked, keeping the phone on, travel expenses, labor expenses if we're away for some reason. We're probably talking about $5,000.00. It's a lot. We really drownded ourselves... *sigh* you live you learn I suppose.
I thought I sent you an email. I will check on that. My apologies. But I will say, I don't want this issue to be confused with Sam's case. This is a personal issue and if people want to help, we certainly appreciate it. But I'm helping Sam because I care for him and I admire him and I am so very grateful for what he does here in this state.
Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
give everyone blowjob machines!
Blowjobs: With extra molten steel!
Personally, I'd be REALLY surprised if the shit hasn't hit the fan in less than the next 365 days...seriously...No, I don't think SHTF for another 3-5 years. But ZOMG when it hits, it's gonna make 1934 look like a walk in the park.
There are much less risky ways to get entrepreneurial with cooking skills. One of the best is the kind where they come to your place and cook meals. Almost zero overhead.
Personally, I'd be REALLY surprised if the shit hasn't hit the fan in less than the next 365 days...seriously...
No, I don't think SHTF for another 3-5 years. But ZOMG when it hits, it's gonna make 1934 look like a walk in the park.
I'm working on an entrepreneurial venture which involves a dozen hot women and cooking. Hopefully it will make me some money.A dozen hot women and good food?
Personally, I'd be REALLY surprised if the shit hasn't hit the fan in less than the next 365 days...seriously...
No, I don't think SHTF for another 3-5 years. But ZOMG when it hits, it's gonna make 1934 look like a walk in the park.
I'm working on an entrepreneurial venture which involves a dozen hot women and cooking. Hopefully it will make me some money.A dozen hot women and good food?
Come to NH and I will help ensure there are customers 8)
I am in New Hampshire. I'm living in Manchester right now. If all goes well I will be selling my stuff at Porcfest.w00t!
I'm working on an entrepreneurial venture which involves a dozen hot women and cooking. Hopefully it will make me some money.A dozen hot women and good food?
Come to NH and I will help ensure there are customers 8)
I am in New Hampshire. I'm living in Manchester right now. If all goes well I will be selling my stuff at Porcfest.
Better not be cannibalism.
Better not be cannibalism.
Strange that this is the last post in this thread...
Here's the article written about us today http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2009/04/18/news/local/free/id_352337.txt
Where I'm quoted as saying cannibalism is A-OK 8) meh....
As for legalizing cannibalism, as some fringe Free Staters openly advocate, Ryder said he believes people should be able to eat human flesh if they want and have sole possession of the body they’re consuming.
“If you’ve killed someone and eaten them, then you are guilty of murder,” he said. “If there is no family member or other person who has higher claim to a dead body than you, I guess you can do whatever you want with that. I can’t say that I agree with it, but I can’t say I would throw you in jail if you did it,” Ryder said.
QuoteAs for legalizing cannibalism, as some fringe Free Staters openly advocate, Ryder said he believes people should be able to eat human flesh if they want and have sole possession of the body they’re consuming.
“If you’ve killed someone and eaten them, then you are guilty of murder,” he said. “If there is no family member or other person who has higher claim to a dead body than you, I guess you can do whatever you want with that. I can’t say that I agree with it, but I can’t say I would throw you in jail if you did it,” Ryder said.
Did you really have to say that to a reporter? :?
Only people who don't support the NAP get upset over something as trivial as the ownership of a dead body.
Too bad they didn't ask about donkey sex shows.
Here's the article written about us today http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2009/04/18/news/local/free/id_352337.txt
In her article — Free Staters say it is inaccurate and slanderous — Martens focuses on a group that organized the Free Town Project in an attempt to take over the small New Hampshire town of Grafton, in the Lake Sunapee area, population of about 1,100. The project failed, and the group tried again in the desolate Texas county of Loving, where they were also ousted.
QuoteAs for legalizing cannibalism, as some fringe Free Staters openly advocate, Ryder said he believes people should be able to eat human flesh if they want and have sole possession of the body they’re consuming.
“If you’ve killed someone and eaten them, then you are guilty of murder,” he said. “If there is no family member or other person who has higher claim to a dead body than you, I guess you can do whatever you want with that. I can’t say that I agree with it, but I can’t say I would throw you in jail if you did it,” Ryder said.
Did you really have to say that to a reporter? :?
No. I was asked specifically about it.
I don't have the politician tactics of ignoring the question and saying something completely unrelated. Not yet at least.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17895
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17895
Nobody is going to fucking read those eight pages. Post an actual piece of convo here or use quote brackets.
I didn't read it either. I'm guessing it's 8 pages of:
-Jesse was right to pull the gun.
-No he wasn't
-Carrying a gun isn't aggression.
-But it can be seen as it
But it related to previous posts in this thread... so...
Naw, it was mostly "Jesse is a clumsy fuck who doesn't know what kind of gun to carry or how to handle it like a responsible person."I read the thread when it was a couple pages long...then I read a couple comments at the end.
He was carrying some type of semi-auto MAC-11?
That is a horrible gun. I had one once, and sold it.
Haha, good one. I was totally in Jesse's corner til I heard he was carrying that Mac on a string.
Yes. Yes it is. "Let's carry a gun that functions exactly like a pistol, only less reliable and the size and shape of a submachinegun!!! Then imma tie it on wif a shoelace or something!!! Yo yo porcupines represent bitches!"
*Sigh*
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17895M$, thanks for this thread.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17895M$, thanks for this thread.
Coconut, thanks for the thread pointer. Reality drama at its best.
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
I just wish that I wouldn't get the evil eye from Russ every time I go over there. There is an anti Shaw cabal, I think.
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
I just wish that I wouldn't get the evil eye from Russ every time I go over there. There is an anti Shaw cabal, I think.
I think you're just out of place in a pro-douche environment.
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
I just wish that I wouldn't get the evil eye from Russ every time I go over there. There is an anti Shaw cabal, I think.
I think you're just out of place in a pro-douche environment.
Perhaps so. I guess I didn't really realize how... I don't have the word for it. Resistant? Resistant to opposing views they are over there.
Dissent will not be tolerated.
Better not be cannibalism.
Strange that this is the last post in this thread...
Here's the article written about us today http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2009/04/18/news/local/free/id_352337.txt
Where I'm quoted as saying cannibalism is A-OK 8) meh....
any publicity is good publicity for the Freedom and Liberty Movement...
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
I just wish that I wouldn't get the evil eye from Russ every time I go over there. There is an anti Shaw cabal, I think.
I think you're just out of place in a pro-douche environment.
Perhaps so. I guess I didn't really realize how... I don't have the word for it. Resistant? Resistant to opposing views they are over there.
Dissent will not be tolerated.
Better not be cannibalism.
Strange that this is the last post in this thread...
Here's the article written about us today http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2009/04/18/news/local/free/id_352337.txt
Where I'm quoted as saying cannibalism is A-OK 8) meh....
any publicity is good publicity for the Freedom and Liberty Movement...
Right on. The object is not to pander to the shitheads but to inspire those who already respect NAP. We are few, and we will never Convert them.
Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
John Shaw ... you pwnd the Undergrounders. 8)
I just wish that I wouldn't get the evil eye from Russ every time I go over there. There is an anti Shaw cabal, I think.
I think you're just out of place in a pro-douche environment.
Perhaps so. I guess I didn't really realize how... I don't have the word for it. Resistant? Resistant to opposing views they are over there.
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
*Deep Breathing Exercises*
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
That has to be a joke... right?That is activism!
(http://www.mac-11.net/images/safe/safe4.jpg)
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
That has to be a joke... right?That is activism!
Watch the video. It's even better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcV-QaHfNA
[youtube=425,350]HVcV-QaHfNA[/youtube]
That has to be a joke... right?That is activism!
Watch the video. It's even better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcV-QaHfNA
[youtube=425,350]HVcV-QaHfNA[/youtube]
Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
Running a restaurant is roughly 10% about the food. There are many very successful places with pretty average, or even kinda bad food, and there are places I've seen come and go in less than 6 months that had some of the best food I've ever tasted. If you don't know how to run a business, having good food will not save you. The person who put the first month's rent down should have been more interested in their business plan than Ivy's ability to use a frying pan.
Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
Running a restaurant is roughly 10% about the food. There are many very successful places with pretty average, or even kinda bad food, and there are places I've seen come and go in less than 6 months that had some of the best food I've ever tasted. If you don't know how to run a business, having good food will not save you. The person who put the first month's rent down should have been more interested in their business plan than Ivy's ability to use a frying pan.
Does that fucking idiot even think?The "free towners" will embrace just about anyone who is willing to live in Grafton. But they are also willing to throw people under the bus.Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
Running a restaurant is roughly 10% about the food. There are many very successful places with pretty average, or even kinda bad food, and there are places I've seen come and go in less than 6 months that had some of the best food I've ever tasted. If you don't know how to run a business, having good food will not save you. The person who put the first month's rent down should have been more interested in their business plan than Ivy's ability to use a frying pan.
I found it absolutely amazing that someone was willing to entrust that kind of money to someone with such poor character as Ivy. With all the problems that she's caused for people here I'm surprised anyone would have trusted that swamp hag bar fly with a dime. Only thing anyone should ever give her is a fucking bus ticket back to Rhode Island.
The 'free towners' are little more than half-wit ideologues. They seem more interested in becoming separatists than actual political activists. I kinda wish they picked someplace a little more remote like Greenland so I wouldn't have to hear from them.
Half of the business that reprobate Ivy has gotten has been a bunch of other free staters who are going up there more out of pity than anything else.
If I were to open up a restaurant in this state, it would be a Breastaraunt and I'd probably put it in Manchester or Nashua.
The object is not to pander to the shitheads but to inspire those who already respect NAP. We are few, and we will never Convert them.
Could you please rewrite this? I read it and thought, "then what's the point to getting thrown in jail over and over?"
The object is not to pander to the shitheads but to inspire those who already respect NAP. We are few, and we will never Convert them.
Could you please rewrite this? I read it and thought, "then what's the point to getting thrown in jail over and over?"
"The object is not to pander to the shitheads but to inspire those who already respect NAP."
The shitheads do not matter. Trying to persuade them not to Initiate Force against us is a waste of time that could be better spent showing Real Libertarians that we CAN make one small place where we can Vote With Our Feet and live more or less free from their oppression... one shining place where, for the first time in the history of Planet Earth, libertarians can actually move and be The Majority - which means, in the U.S., that we can restrict Enforcement of Evil Laws by Voting for our own Town or County officials and law enforcement officers.
"We are few, and we will never Convert them."
We cannot be a Majority anywhere without moving in libertarians to some place that has fewer shithead Voters than we are able to move in. To expect to Convert a meaningful number of Them is a recipe for heartbreak. We must bring our own libertarians. And the place where we go must have a very low "native" population. This means a tiny Nebraska or Texas County, or a New England (NH) Town. Or, possibly, because of the special Wyoming Laws, we could from a New County by splitting an existing Wyoming County. This last is especially attractive because we could form a New County in the middle of Cheyenne - we could even make our County include the Capitol and that SubWay that serves buffalo subs. THEN you'd see Publicity - our Sheriff woiuld have jurisdiction over the Legislature! And remember, there are no State Police in Wyoming!! We would reign supreme!!!
As a practical matter, we must recognize that the state of Wyoming would stop us form actually splitting a New County off in real life. So the best bet short-term is Ellsworth NH, then Grafton.
So the best bet short-term is Ellsworth NH, then Grafton.By short term, do you mean 10+ years?
Does that fucking idiot even think?The "free towners" will embrace just about anyone who is willing to live in Grafton. But they are also willing to throw people under the bus.Sounds like they didnt plan very well, and also didnt do their research about starting a business well enough either...thats too bad.
Running a restaurant is roughly 10% about the food. There are many very successful places with pretty average, or even kinda bad food, and there are places I've seen come and go in less than 6 months that had some of the best food I've ever tasted. If you don't know how to run a business, having good food will not save you. The person who put the first month's rent down should have been more interested in their business plan than Ivy's ability to use a frying pan.
I found it absolutely amazing that someone was willing to entrust that kind of money to someone with such poor character as Ivy. With all the problems that she's caused for people here I'm surprised anyone would have trusted that swamp hag bar fly with a dime. Only thing anyone should ever give her is a fucking bus ticket back to Rhode Island.
But that business plan sucked. Opening a mexican restaurant on credit in Bristol, NH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol,_New_Hampshire), a town with a population of around 3000, during the off season? The big attraction in Bristol is Newfound Lake. The lake isn't that big of an attraction and only in the summer.
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
There are a couple of fast food restaurants that I wish were in this state. I wish there was a Panchero's in NH.
This is what I want around here.
Panchero's
IHOP
Sonics
Culver's
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
:shock: one of those just opened up in stevens point. I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.
I spoke with Sam this morning. He’s wondering if he should stay in jail as the writ of habeas corpus is taken to the NH supreme court. (The superior court judge denied it, saying he couldn’t let Sam out without having his “legal” name.) Sam also didn’t get mail yesterday, which he seemed bummed about. I suggested the guards have been holding his mail. I also suggested he start eating. The hunger strike hasn’t done anything to gain publicity for his case, and will only serve to weaken his composition and distract his mind. Two weeks is enough, especially for someone with Sam’s body type. So, to get out of jail, he can either wait there and see what happens, pay $10,000 cash bail (which you can bet will have whatever fines he’s ordered to pay taken out of it after a trial, so this is the worst option), or give up his “legal name”, which may lead to a bail hearing and release on recognizance.
Ohhhh the freedom of cameras in courtrooms is intoxicating.This was about the lobby, not the courtroom.
Ohhhh the freedom of cameras in courtrooms is intoxicating.This was about the lobby, not the courtroom.
Anarcho Jesse carrying a rifle with a couple bags of top soil in downtown Keene.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/364/ajrifle.jpg)
WTF? Every rifle I have has a sling.
I know it'll be unpopular but...has this guy ever taken a hunter's safety course? Or at least talked to someone who's been a gun owner and a safe gun owning advocate? I see him carry that rifle like it's an official Red Ryder carbine action two-hundred shot range model air rifle with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time and I think...WTF?
Did anyone else notice the way he muzzle swept the cameraman not once but twice as he was putting the soil on the ground?
This is what I want around here.
Panchero's
IHOP
Sonics
Culver's
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
:shock: one of those just opened up in stevens point. I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.
I went to one in Madison during the winter. I was amazed those broads weren't freezing.
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
:shock: one of those just opened up in stevens point. I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.
I went to one in Madison during the winter. I was amazed those broads weren't freezing.
Ok I frequently visit both those places, how have I never even heard of this? I'm gonna have to talk my GF into going :lol:
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
:shock: one of those just opened up in stevens point. I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.
I went to one in Madison during the winter. I was amazed those broads weren't freezing.
Ok I frequently visit both those places, how have I never even heard of this? I'm gonna have to talk my GF into going :lol:
Make sure you go to one in a college town. The broads are juicier.
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
I like how they carry that sludge-pot under their skirt so you can get the wing sauce off your fingers, like a ball washer at a golf course.
Make her wait in the car.
and a Tilted Kilt
http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html
(http://www.franchisetimes.com/images/editorial/Oct07p76_a.jpg)
:shock: one of those just opened up in stevens point. I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.
I went to one in Madison during the winter. I was amazed those broads weren't freezing.
Ok I frequently visit both those places, how have I never even heard of this? I'm gonna have to talk my GF into going :lol:
Make sure you go to one in a college town. The broads are juicier.
Actually, I think that was the "savegrafton" blog. If she wanted a real far-right-winger, she should have spoken to that guy: a Holocaust denier who was upset most about the fact that most of us favor legalizing prostitution, who used racial terminology as an insult on this very forum.
April 27, 2009
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
Leaders of the Free State Project movement have now bought homes and property in Westmoreland.
While my wife and I believe that tolerance for divergi ng views is a hallmark of a robust democracy, we also believe it is necessary to have a comprehensive understanding of those who say their objective is to “take over” state and local government in New Hampshire.
The town of Grafton, New Hampshire did not have an adequate plan in 2004 for dealing with the Free Staters. Grafton’s status today is as follows:
17 properties are now owned by Free Staters;
The Free Staters put a warrant article on the ballot to kill the Planning Board;
One Free Stater, whom they say has been expelled, set up a web site targeting
specific townspeople standing in their way to a takeover;
The Free Staters initiated the Grafton Gazette newspaper to promote
their agenda and silence the opposition;
A large gathering of anarchists from around the country were invited to Grafton
in 2008. See this website for details: http://burningporcupine.com/
Grafton is now promoted on Free State blogs and discussion forums as the place for
out-of-state anarchists to set up shop.
The Free Staters have already made the following inroads in Westmoreland: local government positions and infiltration of a civic organization.
My wife is a public interest writer and has spent in excess of 300 hours researching the history of the Free State movement, its tactics of intimidation, and the secret corporate money backing its agenda. Below is the second in her series of articles which appears today at www.counterpunch.org
If you would like to receive the first article in the series, future updates and a draft proposal for a 10-step program for dealing with the agenda of the Free State movement (which I seek resident input for), simply hit reply and type “Subscribe” in the subject line.
You may feel free to forward this email to other community-minded residents.
Sincerely,
Russ Martens
Marijuana Activist Refusing to Attend Trial if Cameras Banned from Court
Filed under: Issues, News, Thuggery — Ian at 2:20 pm on Tuesday, April 28, 2009
In response to the recent arrests (including one indefinite jailing) of videographers in the Keene District Court lobby, Andrew Carroll, who will be tried for his civil disobedience of publicly possessing marijuana on May 1st at 1:30pm, has stated the following on the Free Keene Forum:
QuoteI am going to refuse to proceed with my court case (May 1, at 1:30 pm) until cameras are allowed in. Freedom of the press is too invaluable to the protection of liberty to let its blatant violation go unchallenged. I demand the officers and magistrates of the court show proper respect for the rights of individuals. Someone needs to watch the watchers.
I will show up on May 1 and attend my trial as scheduled; but I will refuse to proceed with the trial without cameras there. They are too essential to a fair trial - or, more accurately, too essential to holding judges accountable for creating unfair trials - to proceed without them.
You are all, of course, free to do as you please, but that is my plan. Sam is still in jail and the least I can do to thank him for his bravery is try to take the absurdity of all these abuses to court and challenge them there. Perhaps keep him company in Westmoreland, if that’s what it comes down to. But that decision is in the hands of the “authorities.” The next move belongs to them. Let us see how many peaceful people they will throw in jail.
Other forum posts suggest that in addition to this civil disobedience by Carroll, more liberty activists may choose to also risk arrest by recording video in the allegedly public lobby of the district court, to show support for jailed videographer and activist Sam Dodson as well as journalist Dave Ridley who was first arrested for recording in the same lobby back in March.
Activists will likely gather downstairs at 3 Washington St. after 1pm on Friday. Will the government people allow cameras in their allegedly public court, or will they continue cracking down on peaceful people attempting to exercise their supposed right to freedom of the press? Also, will Andrew be jailed over his courageous act of possessing cannabis in public? If you can’t be here in person, watch it unfold here on the blog.
Letter sent out in the town Mark lives in:This was sent as an email?
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211890#msg211890QuoteApril 27, 2009
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
Blah, blah, blah...
Sincerely,
Russ Martens
Letter sent out in the town Mark lives in:
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211890#msg211890QuoteApril 27, 2009
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
Leaders of the Free State Project movement have now bought homes and property in Westmoreland.
While my wife and I believe that tolerance for divergi ng views is a hallmark of a robust democracy, we also believe it is necessary to have a comprehensive understanding of those who say their objective is to “take over” state and local government in New Hampshire.
The town of Grafton, New Hampshire did not have an adequate plan in 2004 for dealing with the Free Staters. Grafton’s status today is as follows:
17 properties are now owned by Free Staters;
The Free Staters put a warrant article on the ballot to kill the Planning Board;
One Free Stater, whom they say has been expelled, set up a web site targeting
specific townspeople standing in their way to a takeover;
The Free Staters initiated the Grafton Gazette newspaper to promote
their agenda and silence the opposition;
A large gathering of anarchists from around the country were invited to Grafton
in 2008. See this website for details: http://burningporcupine.com/
Grafton is now promoted on Free State blogs and discussion forums as the place for
out-of-state anarchists to set up shop.
The Free Staters have already made the following inroads in Westmoreland: local government positions and infiltration of a civic organization.
My wife is a public interest writer and has spent in excess of 300 hours researching the history of the Free State movement, its tactics of intimidation, and the secret corporate money backing its agenda. Below is the second in her series of articles which appears today at www.counterpunch.org
If you would like to receive the first article in the series, future updates and a draft proposal for a 10-step program for dealing with the agenda of the Free State movement (which I seek resident input for), simply hit reply and type “Subscribe” in the subject line.
You may feel free to forward this email to other community-minded residents.
Sincerely,
Russ Martens
Greetings, Larry. Hope this finds you and your family doing well. I just wanted
to alert you to the fact that the communists and Democrats have apparently
launched a full-scale smear campaign against the Free State Project and those of
us who have moved to Grafton. They're prominently using your Free Town web sites
to discredit us. (Check it all out at
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg210785, and at the
referenced Keene Sentinel article, as well as the two smear pieces published in
the online communist magazine Counterpunch.) I really wish you'd take your Free
Town web sites down, or at least note on them that you're not with the Free
State Project and that the sites are not connected with or approved by the FSP.
Your references to cannibalism and incest and other such stuff, as you know, are
at odds with what the rest of us believe. ---Tim Condon
No, they are not at odds; all libertarians oppose enforcement of laws that
punish such acts between consenting adults, and many FSP Participants are
libertarians. In fact, many FSP Participants - especially at NHUnderGround and
FreeTalkLive - today are saying the very same things to which you have objected
so strenuously (actually you do NOT object to those things, you only object to
their being voiced out loud - as if the shitheads are too dumb to google
Libertarianism).
As I tried to tell you many times, you can't achieve a voting majority in a
State without first achieving a voting majority in one small portion of that
State. And there is nothing immoral about using the Force of the Vote to stop
the Initiation of Force by some old-time residents of a Town against their
neighbors.
Read the explanation by your Dalebert here:
http://freekeene.com/2009/04/20/fine-young-cannibals/#more-1832
He seems to get it: It is a mistake to conflate (1) opposing the punishment of
an activity and (2) advocating or promoting that activity. - - - But then he
does exactly that when referring to me!
We will take over the Town Governments of Grafton and Ellsworth, and as I told
you long ago we will do it even without Converting most of the current
residents.
Respect works both ways, you know. When the shitheads do not respect our right
not to be threatened and incarcerated, we have no obligation to respect their
desire to Initiate Force against their neighbors.
And I regret to inform you that I am going to have to put Merle on The List, for
his participation in a State drug bust in Grafton. He has made his choice to
Initiate Force.
As for stating that the FSP is not associated with this or that site, my
goodness aren't you the ones who after 501(c)(3/4) have insisted that you do NOT
take any stand at all on which views the Participants espouse? Are you guys now
taking a position for and against certain political viewpoints once more?
BALLS? Say it isn't so, Tim.
Andrew shoulda been the one planting the garden instead of AnarchoJesse. His woulda been filled with other plants :)I hear Andrew was fined $420.
But of course he is right up there with Sam: really wants to get a rap sheet.
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14264.msg249594#msg249594QuoteThe July issue of the Grafton Gazette is available now at http://www.graftongazette.com/Current.pdf
We expanded it to 12 pages, and ran our first paid full page ad! Also, we had it mailed to every household/box in Grafton. It was really a team effort so a big shout-out to everyone that helped.
A special thanks goes to Kat for her help getting us started.
Mary H. McDow, or as Zack called her, Bloody Mary, died June 11, 2008. She was the town clerk. She pulled me over about a year ago and said she was gunna call the police (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=15321.msg283108#msg283108) on me cus I drive bad. I avoided registering a car for about 6 months cus I didn't want to see her. I got the car registered monday and found out she was dead. Weird.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
SHOULD JUDGES HAVE ANY SELF CONTROL?
SADLY, THIS IS WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME...
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5066/stoplolling.jpg)
SHAMEFUL INDEED...
SAD...
The 'free towners' are little more than half-wit ideologues. They seem more interested in becoming separatists than actual political activists. I kinda wish they picked someplace a little more remote like Greenland so I wouldn't have to hear from them.
The 'free towners' are little more than half-wit ideologues. They seem more interested in becoming separatists than actual political activists. I kinda wish they picked someplace a little more remote like Greenland so I wouldn't have to hear from them.
Chip on your shoulder much about people who mind their own business?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
SHOULD JUDGES HAVE ANY SELF CONTROL?
SADLY, THIS IS WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME...
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5066/stoplolling.jpg)
SHAMEFUL INDEED...
SAD...
dude, it's an image macro
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
SHOULD JUDGES HAVE ANY SELF CONTROL?
SADLY, THIS IS WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME...
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5066/stoplolling.jpg)
SHAMEFUL INDEED...
SAD...
dude, it's an image macro
I'm not referring to the macro...I'm referring to the severe body language exhibited by the ALMIGHTY WORSHIPFUL pajama-clad "judge"...
A $420 fine for a couple grams of weed is pretty harsh.
Quote from: Pat KQuote from: AnarchoJesseQuote from: Pat KQuote from: AnarchoJesseGood to see this thread is still here. I've grown bored, and the Underground is always good for kicking shit around.
For all of my detractors, and especially YOU, Kat: They never did build statues for critics.
For those who supported me, thank you.
No they usually build statues to some SOB who got people killed.
Are you being contrarian just for the sake of it, or to save face for your clique?
I have a clique ?
Cool, who are all the members of the PatK clique?
Maybe I can get them jackets or some thing.
Ya know Jesse if ya could just get that big chip off your shoulder
and ditch the I have a big problem with my daddy thing, life would probably be
much smoother.
Choke on a donut, you miserable fat fuck.
I may not be a big fan of Russell and Kat, but Jesse is just a dick.
Jesse thrives off of getting involved in fights he can blame on someone else.
He's going to protest G20 (or whatever it is) with a bandanna, anti-tase suit, among other things. He wants to get beaten. He can't wait.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=989.msg9139#msg9139QuoteJesse thrives off of getting involved in fights he can blame on someone else.
He's going to protest G20 (or whatever it is) with a bandanna, anti-tase suit, among other things. He wants to get beaten. He can't wait.
Someone needs to make a video of that.
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question.
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question. All it was, was "noise" which distracted from the relevant issue(s).
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question.
They run in very small social circles and attend the same events.This has been one of my criticisms of many of the more extreme Free-Staters. They don't get involved in the community and spread the ideas of liberty in civil society. Instead they engage in navel-gazing with other libertarians (nothing wrong with that, but it accomplishes nothing in itself). The only time the rest of the community hear from them, is when they are "causing trouble"
navel-gazing
The only time the rest of the community hear from them, is when they are "causing trouble"
Compare and contrast with the FSPers who are, eg, quietly helping out at the Food Bank, or get themselves elected, or even who put out newspapers/radio shows/TV programs. Those people are engaging the society, not antagonizing it.
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question.
When a responsible person carries, you probably won't know he's carrying. Its like a wallet to a well balanced person, a part of their personal stuff. They know subconsciously exactly where it is, and exactly whats in it. They don't obsess over it, showing it to people. When was the last time someone showed you their wallet? You may catch a glimpse, but thats about all you'll see.
To an immature person who is not in the right frame of mind, its like the coolest fuckinshit ever. Like a kid with a new iPod or some other hot-list item, they're all geeked on it, but by the code of Man-Law, its taboo to flash it around. But they can't help it, because they want everyone to know how badass they are. And those are the absolute DEFINITIVE wrongest people to be carrying.
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question. All it was, was "noise" which distracted from the relevant issue(s).
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question.
When a responsible person carries, you probably won't know he's carrying. Its like a wallet to a well balanced person, a part of their personal stuff. They know subconsciously exactly where it is, and exactly whats in it. They don't obsess over it, showing it to people. When was the last time someone showed you their wallet? You may catch a glimpse, but thats about all you'll see.
To an immature person who is not in the right frame of mind, its like the coolest fuckinshit ever. Like a kid with a new iPod or some other hot-list item, they're all geeked on it, but by the code of Man-Law, its taboo to flash it around. But they can't help it, because they want everyone to know how badass they are. And those are the absolute DEFINITIVE wrongest people to be carrying.
I reckon the Second Amendment applies to irresponsible toy-lovers as well as to evolved gun-culture members. Just as the First applies equally to immature macho-flash exhibitionists and thoughtful talk-show hosts.
Right on (again), Alex.
Every single person in the thread where Jesse talked about Kat's article mentioning him, who criticized his choice of weapon purchase, should be ashamed of themselves for wasting everyones time with garbage that did not need to be either written, nor read.
Nobody should give a shit what these peoples opinion are of Jesse's weapon. We are all arguably just a little bit stupider for having to have read that shit, and if anyone here is the offender who did that, you should be damned well ashamed of yourself. His choice of weapon has no bearing on Kat's article, or the incident in question.
When a responsible person carries, you probably won't know he's carrying. Its like a wallet to a well balanced person, a part of their personal stuff. They know subconsciously exactly where it is, and exactly whats in it. They don't obsess over it, showing it to people. When was the last time someone showed you their wallet? You may catch a glimpse, but thats about all you'll see.
To an immature person who is not in the right frame of mind, its like the coolest fuckinshit ever. Like a kid with a new iPod or some other hot-list item, they're all geeked on it, but by the code of Man-Law, its taboo to flash it around. But they can't help it, because they want everyone to know how badass they are. And those are the absolute DEFINITIVE wrongest people to be carrying.
I reckon the Second Amendment applies to irresponsible toy-lovers as well as to evolved gun-culture members. Just as the First applies equally to immature macho-flash exhibitionists and thoughtful talk-show hosts.
Right on (again), Alex.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
What? It's true. He's still in NH and he's still got people defending him. He can still go to Walmart and buy ammo for that MAC-DADDY.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
What? It's true. He's still in NH and he's still got people defending him. He can still go to Walmart and buy ammo for that MAC-DADDY.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
What? It's true. He's still in NH and he's still got people defending him. He can still go to Walmart and buy ammo for that MAC-DADDY.
I agree with you. I'm just pointing out reality as it applies to this BBS :P
Ostracization doesn't work because people are disincentivized to go along with it. Think of participants in ostracization as a cartel (because that's what it is). Now think about cartels why they don't work...or if you can't figure it out, look here (http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Cartels.html). And there you go.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
What? It's true. He's still in NH and he's still got people defending him. He can still go to Walmart and buy ammo for that MAC-DADDY.
I agree with you. I'm just pointing out reality as it applies to this BBS :P
Ostracization doesn't work because people are disincentivized to go along with it. Think of participants in ostracization as a cartel (because that's what it is). Now think about cartels why they don't work...or if you can't figure it out, look here (http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Cartels.html). And there you go.
That's why it wouldn't work best case, where everybody really hates the guy.
This isn't even close to that, and most cases wouldn't be.
Yeah, it does. So what? That doesn't mean the general populace can't shun a dumbfuck if he's a danger to himself and others. Or is this social ostracization crap only good for certain things, after the offense?
Ostracization doesn't work.
Indignant rebukes in 3...2...1...
What? It's true. He's still in NH and he's still got people defending him. He can still go to Walmart and buy ammo for that MAC-DADDY.
I agree with you. I'm just pointing out reality as it applies to this BBS :P
Ostracization doesn't work because people are disincentivized to go along with it. Think of participants in ostracization as a cartel (because that's what it is). Now think about cartels why they don't work...or if you can't figure it out, look here (http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Cartels.html). And there you go.
That's why it wouldn't work best case, where everybody really hates the guy.
This isn't even close to that, and most cases wouldn't be.
I like to make the strongest case possible by being as charitable as possible to the position which I'm arguing against :P
Drama in the free state indeed. It'll have to be something to look out for for any of us planning on making the move.To be frank, it's really not that big of a deal. Just how some of you get on this forum everyday or multiple times per day, the same applies for the denizens over there. People make posts and sometimes you get threads like this, here or there.
t's really not that big of a deal.^this
So he's not called Dodson? :lol:I think that is his mothers maiden name.
What does this piglet mean in this sense?Offspring of a pig.
/me is confus
What does this piglet mean in this sense?Offspring of a pig.
/me is confus
I had to laugh. Sam is a piglet, and Varrin won't "out" FSP members who got elected.
As a noob - I didn't find any humor in the article
More fundamentally unnerving, some say, is the Free Staters' efforts to secure government positions, with the goal of whittling down or eliminating them. The Free State Project's president, Varrin Swearingen, said in a telephone interview there are four state representatives with ties to the project and a "double-digit number" on local boards and commissions. He declined to release their names, saying to do so would violate their privacy, though he said some have "outed" themselves.I find it funny that some of these people don't want to be associated with the Free State Project. They also make it a point to let other people know they don't want to be 'outed'. The only state rep. they have been willing to name is Joel Winters.
There were 4 FSP Movers who won.That sounds like some Freestaters will deny being a Freestater. There is so much comedy in this.
Not all of them want their names known. In some towns being an FSPer can help. In others it can hurt.
Many FSPers will answer honestly if asked if they are a freestater but often don't shout it frm the rooftops.
We should respect their privacy.
No disrespect but who am I to tell you who they are if they asked that I didn't. I keep my word.
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Coffey, Jennifer Andover,Boscawen,Canterbury,Loudon,Northfield,Salisbur
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McGuire, Carol Allenstown,Epsom,Pittsfield
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Pratt, Cal Goffstown,Wear
Winters, Joel Manchester
Lifted all bans, except for spammers.
Of course, you only listed the early movers who got elected as state rep. There are FSP members that were in NH before it was "Chosen" and who are still sitting State Reps (and some who got unelected in the past few cycles)
Like if tons of republican politicians sign up in droves and claim to be members? How would it affect the project?
The FSP is doing just fine, Beej.Like if tons of republican politicians sign up in droves and claim to be members? How would it affect the project?
This already happened. It's why the FSP isn't worth a damn now.
The FSP is doing just fine, Beej.Like if tons of republican politicians sign up in droves and claim to be members? How would it affect the project?
This already happened. It's why the FSP isn't worth a damn now.
The FSP is doing just fine, Beej.Like if tons of republican politicians sign up in droves and claim to be members? How would it affect the project?
This already happened. It's why the FSP isn't worth a damn now.
'just fine' as in "I've fallen and I can't get up! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I've_fallen_and_I_can't_get_up)"I can appreciate the humor, but ultimately I don't understand why you and bj think that the FSP isn't worth a damn. What precisely do the two of you not like about the direction that the FSP is heading? Are you just upset w/ the slow moving progress? I mean, I just moved here and my life is financially better already. I even have leads with hot chicks (though not FSPers) and I've only been here a week. What's the deal?
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lolYou got up that early to say that? Come on Beej, you're way cooler than that. :o
lolYou got up that early to say that? Come on Beej, you're way cooler than that. :o
No, I'm Catholic. You know you like those 10 commandments...lolYou got up that early to say that? Come on Beej, you're way cooler than that. :o
You're like a Scientologist.
Sometime Monday 6/8/09 I will challenge the courts on Sams indefinite imprisonment, prolly with a sign hold in the court room silently, in the back with no chanting. I don't know exactly when as judge Burke holds different court times, I'm not even certain he holds court on mondays. I would prefer to focus on primary enforcers such as police rather than secondary enforcers such as courts, and jails, however in Sams situation, it is judge Burke who is the primary instigator. The following is my statement, though I will likely make minor changes, and polish it up a bit. ===
Every nation in the world that imprisons people indefinitely, with or without trial always has an excuse. The Soviets had some reason to put every individual they arrested in jail. Cuba has its excuses. China too. Don't forget about Iran. Why do powerful governments bother even giving excuses? Because it gives them the legitimacy to do anything to anyone they want. The greater legitimacy they have, the less opposition they have from the very small minority in any country that actually cares about creeping tyranny. In the United States, the excuse given is usually that the person is a terrorist or conspiracy to commit some crime. It is important to note that not everybody accused of a crime is actually guilty of anything. That is why there are supposed to be speedy trials, so that a persons life is not destroyed fighting false charges. Nobody seems to care as long as the person is not a United States citizen. Creeping Tyranny. The most dangerous tyranny creeps, it doesn't run, again because there is always less opposition. The reason there is less opposition is that few recognize creeping tyranny as dangerous. They are too busy looking for the next Hitler, Stalin, Mao, people that are obviously tyrants. They have intellectual arguments about slippery slopes, not realizing that we are already on the slippery slope, and have been for quite awhile.
Jose Padilla was a United States citizen. Born in Brooklyn New York.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Padilla_(alleged_terrorist)#Timeline
He was held for three and a half years before he was even officially charged with a crime. He was never charged with the claim that was originally made about him in public. He was convicted on a conspiracy charge. We have been on the slippery slope for quite awhile. More Creeping Tyranny.
In Keene New Hampshire, a man is in jail initially for attempting to videotape a court proceeding but was not able to get past court security and into the courtroom, and was arrested for videotaping in the lobby just prior to the arrest. He has since been held indefinitely by judge Edward Burke's order for contempt due to his refusal to state his name. His name is Sam Dodson, and his birth name is Sam Miller. Both names are the worst kept secret in town. The government has stated that they know who he is, but are trying to require him to say it himself. If this was about justice, he would have had his trial for the initial charges and would have been given his sentence, or released. But this isn't about justice, it is about power, and Sam will not give it to them. The excuse here is that Sam will not cooperate, so he must be jailed indefinitely, till the judge feels like releasing him. It is possible the judge is being less than honest, and will release Sam within the week. It is also possible for the judge to hold Sam till sometime next year.
Sam is a peaceful passive resister. He went limp upon the arrest, putting the arrestors in the position of having to carry him if they wanted to continue with the arrest.
The judge is not elected, and even if he was, since most vote according to political party affinity, it is incredibly difficult to vote out incumbents. Attempts have been made by associates of Sam to secure his release or progress in his legal status through the higher courts to no avail as of yet. Further more, courts have traditionally upheld the 'right' of a judge to indefinitely hold a person for 'reasonable' amounts of time.
I know of no effective means to challenge this power to indefinitely imprison someone. Power is rarely given up by those in privilege voluntarily, without being challenged. I am a believer in the potential of assertive peaceful civil disobedience to compel change by direct challenge. It is for this reason I have chosen to submit myself to this awful power of indefinite imprisonment. It is my intention to increase the costs of enforcement, since it seems that the courts have so much money that they can waste time with a non-crime where there is clearly no victim rather than going after actually hurtful people, people who are real criminals. At any time the courts are welcome to release me and Sam thus reducing the added expense both monetarily and in manpower.
No Victim, No Crime
Practical issues,-
first, I need a place to store my personal belongings, nothing bulky, except my bike which can be chained up outside, but maybe a dozen or two boxes once I pack it all up. I will pay for space so long as my money reserves last. I also have 4 large planters that need sunlight, if I am to have any kind of a garden. Nothing illegal, just a normal fruit and veggie garden in pots. I will not expect any weeding or watering to be done. As long as it rains from time to time.
I am giving up my room rental. I will be available then, great home owner, 110 a week. Not sympathetic to libertarian issues, but not nosy either. He has cats and a dog. No smoking. He has a few written terms he asks you to agree to, but it is not a lease, though he would like two weeks notice that you are leaving which I just did.
any help would be appreciated.
WTF did that guy just say he is planning on moving to jail?That is how you become a hero in Keene.
Trial Scheduled for Sam: 6/15, 1:30pm ET
BIG NEWS:
Mark your calendar. A trial has been scheduled for Sam on 6/15 at 1:30pm in Keene District Court. (2nd Floor, 3 Washington St., Keene, NH 03431)
Word is Ivy sent notice to the city manager and council as well as some other bureaucrats to let them know they will be held liable under some federal code about deprivation of rights (USC 1983) for every day they have been complicit in holding Sam. A couple of days later, a trial has been magically scheduled.
WTF did that guy just say he is planning on moving to jail?That is how you become a hero in Keene.
http://freekeene.com/2009/06/04/trial-scheduled-for-sam-615-130pm-et/Rowdy!QuoteTrial Scheduled for Sam: 6/15, 1:30pm ET
BIG NEWS:
Mark your calendar. A trial has been scheduled for Sam on 6/15 at 1:30pm in Keene District Court. (2nd Floor, 3 Washington St., Keene, NH 03431)
Word is Ivy sent notice to the city manager and council as well as some other bureaucrats to let them know they will be held liable under some federal code about deprivation of rights (USC 1983) for every day they have been complicit in holding Sam. A couple of days later, a trial has been magically scheduled.
Ivy Arrested.Welfare fraud?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=18267
Ivy Arrested.Welfare fraud?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=18267
Felony, no more guns for her.Uh oh... That sucks balls to say the least.
I think this just speaks about the type of woman Ivy actually is. She is a worthless white trash skank who has been nothing but a headache to everyone around her.
So I guess this means she's not coming to Porcfest.
Talking trash about people is generally bad.
But people who are unsafe with guns are KEEP THE FUXK AWAY FROM ME YOU MORAN!
I was in a situation once where a man came at me with a knife while I was near my parked car. He was chasing me with the knife, and I was running around my car. This was at a time when my driver's side door was having issues opening. I had a gun in my car that I was trying to get in and get. But I was unable to get to it. Ultimately I convinced the guy to leave me alone and he left. This was in Gary, Indiana, not New Hampshire.
Have any of you people who are criticizing Jesse for carrying the MAC on a string ever seen him with a MAC? Do you have any reliable source that says he did?
LOL. More evidence that all the IN YOUR FACE people up there are running from something.Especially when they change their name once they get to NH.
LOL. More evidence that all the IN YOUR FACE people up there are running from something.Especially when they change their name once they get to NH.
She didn't go by Ivy Walker.LOL. More evidence that all the IN YOUR FACE people up there are running from something.Especially when they change their name once they get to NH.
She went by Ivy while still in RI. according to: http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=10057.0
Do you blame someone for trying to get away from that past?I don't blame them....but it can't be done. You can't change the past.
But Ivy doesn't deserve this.When it comes to the government, it doesn't matter what you deserve. The biggest reason I don't want any government "benefits" is because of all the strings attached. Sometimes they use those strings to hang you.
WTF did that guy just say he is planning on moving to jail?
Canceled, Sam finally has trial date.
OMGI wonder what this means for her restaurant... Bill is going to have his hands full, that is, if they're doing good business in regards to patrons.
Ivy sure has a spicy life.
She didn't go by Ivy Walker.
Common law married?She didn't go by Ivy Walker.
And she wasn't married to Bill Walker then, either.
OMGI wonder what this means for her restaurant... Bill is going to have his hands full, that is, if they're are doing good business in regards to patrons.
Ivy sure has a spicy life.
Common law married?
What was Ivy's last name before she "married" Bill?
Are they turning a profit yet?OMGI wonder what this means for her restaurant... Bill is going to have his hands full, that is, if they're are doing good business in regards to patrons.
Ivy sure has a spicy life.
She's spent significant time away from it while working on Sam's case anyway. Bill seems to be doing a good job.
Kid’s Menu
Monster Guts
Baked Stuffed Zucchini over flowing with cheesey filling.
Snakes and Worms in the Yard
Pan Seared Hot Dogs with Macaroni and Cheese and a veggie side.
Toenail Clippings
Fresh tortillas with diced tomatoes, olives, jalapeños, and shredded cheese.
Cow Patties in the Pasture
Grilled Hamburger with tortillas and a veggie side.
Stuffed Dragon Scale by the Field
A Beef Taco with lettuce, diced tomatoes, and shredded cheese and a veggie side.
all items $4.99
Wednesday
Public Service Personnel Night — PD, FD, and EMTs bring in your badge, or town office personnel bring in your business card, and get 15% off.
Ivy’s felony charges from R.I.: arraignment
Fri, 2009-06-05 09:00 — jraxis
Ivy was arrested on 2009-06-04 in New Hampton when she was stopped at a speed trap and they discovered she has a warrant out for her in Rhode Island, for felony charges alleging some sort of embezzlement when she was on welfare there.
Ivy was arraigned in Laconia District Court on 2009-06-05. Bill Walker, Bill D., and I showed up shortly before 09:00, when the arraignment was supposed to happen; the court security officer at the door first told us no cases had been scheduled today, but then remembered there was one person who was supposed to be arraigned.
As usual, they were confused over the procedures to video in court—the bailiff at the door claimed that only WMUR was allowed to video, and held onto the camera until I got permission from the court to bring it in.
It took them almost an hour to get the arraignment underway. First, they had to go “looking for a judge” because court wasn’t normally in session on Fridays. While this was going on, Bill W. went to file the appearance form as her legal counsel while I dealt with the video motion form. We then went and waited in the hallway, while the courtroom slowly filled up with bureaucrats.
A bailiff came out and told me the judge had approved the video motion, so I could go in and set up the camera—on the witness stand, facing the defense table only. Apparently the prosecutor and judge didn’t want to appear on camera. [I haven’t reviewed the video yet, but this setup was probably actually a good thing: In Manchester, seated in the gallery, the audio is almost unintelligible. Being pointed at the defendant should make the sound a lot clearer.]
A total of fifteen bureaucrats had assembled in the courtroom: The judge, the court clerk, the prosecutor, a New Hampton police officer, three bailiffs, four sheriffs, and the county attorney with three interns, assistants, or similar. Security was incredibly beefed up; they had the front row of the gallery cordoned off so none of us could sit within reaching distance of the defense table, and the entire roomful of bailiffs jumped at every move Bill W. made.
They denied Bill’s motion to appear as Ivy’s legal counsel, because the form wasn’t notarized, and because Ivy hadn’t granted him power of attorney. The fact that it had been impossible for her to do so, being incarcerated, and the fact that they wouldn’t let him speak to her in order to have her do so, didn’t matter. Typical bureaucracy.
They brought Ivy in handcuffed and shackled, and the clerk read off the charges: Two counts of violating RSA 262:16, “Counterfeit, Unauthorized or Forged Stickers, or Decals or Facsimile; Altered or Modified Temporary Motor Vehicle Registration Plates,” violation of RSA 261:178, “Suspension of Registration of Vehicle,” and violation of RSA 612:3, the statutes covering extradition. The complete charge was described as, “after committing a crime in another state, to wit, Rhode Island, for failing to appear in the Providence County Court, for the charge of embezzlement, in violation of the laws of the State of Rhode Island, and is now within the State of New Hampshire, and is liable under the United States Constitution to be delivered on demand of the Governor of Rhode Island and to be removed to the said state.”
Ivy said virtually nothing during the trial. They offered her a court-appointed attorney, to which she explained if she had access to a law library, she could represent herself pro se. They still wanted to appoint her stand-by counsel, and gave her a week to decide how she wanted to proceed.
The judge explained that because the charge was a felony, she could not enter a plea on Ivy’s behalf; also, oddly, she didn’t even ask for pleas, nor enter ones on her behalf, on all of the misdemeanor motor vehicle charges. Ivy was given personal recognizance bail on the latter charges, but the judge said she could not grant any sort of bail on the felony fugitive from justice charge, so after the arraignment was over, they took Ivy back into custody.
I imagine they let themselves in.
who let the dogs in...
http://www.nhclog.org/node/6QuoteIvy’s felony charges from R.I.: arraignment
Fri, 2009-06-05 09:00 — jraxis
Ivy was arrested on 2009-06-04 in New Hampton when she was stopped at a speed trap and they discovered she has a warrant out for her in Rhode Island, for felony charges alleging some sort of embezzlement when she was on welfare there.
Ivy was arraigned in Laconia District Court on 2009-06-05. Bill Walker, Bill D., and I showed up shortly before 09:00, when the arraignment was supposed to happen; the court security officer at the door first told us no cases had been scheduled today, but then remembered there was one person who was supposed to be arraigned.
As usual, they were confused over the procedures to video in court—the bailiff at the door claimed that only WMUR was allowed to video, and held onto the camera until I got permission from the court to bring it in.
A bailiff came out and told me the judge had approved the video motion, so I could go in and set up the camera—on the witness stand, facing the defense table only. Apparently the prosecutor and judge didn’t want to appear on camera. [I haven’t reviewed the video yet, but this setup was probably actually a good thing: In Manchester, seated in the gallery, the audio is almost unintelligible. Being pointed at the defendant should make the sound a lot clearer.]
A total of fifteen bureaucrats had assembled in the courtroom: The judge, the court clerk, the prosecutor, a New Hampton police officer, three bailiffs, four sheriffs, and the county attorney with three interns, assistants, or similar. Security was incredibly beefed up; they had the front row of the gallery cordoned off so none of us could sit within reaching distance of the defense table, and the entire roomful of bailiffs jumped at every move Bill W. made.
They denied Bill’s motion to appear as Ivy’s legal counsel, because the form wasn’t notarized, and because Ivy hadn’t granted him power of attorney. The fact that it had been impossible for her to do so, being incarcerated, and the fact that they wouldn’t let him speak to her in order to have her do so, didn’t matter. Typical bureaucracy.
They brought Ivy in handcuffed and shackled, and the clerk read off the charges: Two counts of violating RSA 262:16, “Counterfeit, Unauthorized or Forged Stickers, or Decals or Facsimile; Altered or Modified Temporary Motor Vehicle Registration Plates,” violation of RSA 261:178, “Suspension of Registration of Vehicle,” and violation of RSA 612:3, the statutes covering extradition. The complete charge was described as, “after committing a crime in another state, to wit, Rhode Island, for failing to appear in the Providence County Court, for the charge of embezzlement, in violation of the laws of the State of Rhode Island, and is now within the State of New Hampshire, and is liable under the United States Constitution to be delivered on demand of the Governor of Rhode Island and to be removed to the said state.”
Ivy said virtually nothing during the trial. They offered her a court-appointed attorney, to which she explained if she had access to a law library, she could represent herself pro se. They still wanted to appoint her stand-by counsel, and gave her a week to decide how she wanted to proceed.
QuoteOdd. I wonder what connection Ivy's computer could have to receiving welfare in RI.
Probably that they are looking for the (nonexistent?) books of her former landscaping (? or whatever other self employment?) business that she closed before the mess that caused her to leave RI. Somewhere there's a bureaucrat who just can't believe there really are no records and they will turn everyone else's lives upside down to get what they assume she must be lying about, even if it turns out there's really no income related to it thus it didn't need to be on a tax form which therefore didn't need to be filed... golly isn't it just so incredible that someone would decline to file if they are so low income as to be below the limit?QuoteThey're most likely hoping to find digital records of vast amounts of income to bolster a tax evasion case.
Probably not so much tax evasion as that one of the charges was welfare fraud. But they probably do hope to also sniff out some tax related stuff now that they have an excuse to snoop around based on this. Or someone may be ignoring the fact that the restaurant did not exist - and certainly is outside RI's jurisdiction even if it did - during her welfare days thus its income is not relevant to that case.
This is also an example of why we all need to be sure and keep backups of some stuff (like Bill's lost phone number lists) separate from the computer itself to prevent losses like this. Bummer Bill couldn't have said it was HIS computer rather than hers thus it was not the one described in the warrant and they shouldn't have taken it...
Ivy recently told me that the State has offered her some sort of social assistance for her kids here—which she turned down for exactly the reasons I cited above.
Ivy is a hero.
by armed, uniformed, gangster in Grafton:
http://qik.com/video/1801809
http://qik.com/video/1801833
http://qik.com/video/1801911
http://qik.com/video/1802032
First they stole my wife, carrying my unborn child.
Then they stole my truck.
Then they stole my money.
Then they stole my property.
One among you has stooped so low as to steal even more from me.
You shame yourself and everything you touch.
You have caused me irreparable harm.
You pissed on me in Hell.
Leave.
The town. The project. The state.
Keene, you have the lowest type of filth among you.
Simply turn to your left, then your right, and ask your neighbor if it's them, and if so to just leave.
They took Ivy's computer. I wonder who served the warrant. NH state police?
(http://jailedactivist.info/uploads/activists/ivy-walker/ivy_walker_bust.jpg)
* two counts of violating RSA 262:16 : Antitheft Laws, Offenses, Penalties, Habitual Offenders, Arrest of Nonresidents and Abandoned Vehicles > Counterfeit, Unauthorized or Forged Stickers, or Decals or Facsimile; Altered or Modified Temporary Motor Vehicle Registration Plates
* violation of RSA 261:178 : Certificates of Title and Registration of Vehicles > Suspension of Registration of Vehicle
Bill is going nuts.
Of course. They will spend hours arguing about it and it will all come down to who the fanatics label as not being 'pure' enough and are closet statists.Oh stop. In the more populated FreeStater areas, we don't have that problem, period. Come see for yourself. Oh, and I completely choked on my cigarette when I read what blackie posted via Walker's latest comments about the Keene folk. :shock:
Some of the entrees sound decent, I'll have to take a stroll up that way sometime.
Browbeat me as much as you want - I can ask for a written affidavit attesting to irrefutable first hand knowledge of this person's actions.
I can have it notarized if you're picky.
I can have the individual who correctly named the scumbag and confronted them verify the accuracy of the affidavit.
That person has a high standard and would not lightly attest to such a thing.
They claim that they found out from others who I can only imagine fear to comment in support of my claims, or otherwise do not want to become involved.
But I don't choose to be wronged and then be saddled with doing the work required as a result of that.
The guilty party is identified, and has been confronted. Bitch and moan all you want - my terms to Sh*tbag are to fully spill your guts to the community and then leave, or just get the hell out. Clearly SEVERAL people know you're guilty - so just have a spine and tell them what you're guilty OF.
Or maybe at some point I can assemble as many people who want to hear it outside of your house - for me to publicly announce it on video.
I know where you live.
Wait, so whats the whole "Ivy is a whore" story?That is what this thread was first started about. See the first couple pages of this thread.
Ah. Lovely people.That was perfect timing :lol:
*sighIt was you?
*sighHow was that quality time with Ivy?
I'm still not sure what you are "guilty" of.
I'm still not sure what you are "guilty" of.
It amazes me that neither party can just come out and say it.
I'm still not sure what you are "guilty" of.
It amazes me that neither party can just come out and say it.
It.
Coconut fucked Ivy? Ewwww.
Get checked and remember. Penicillin cures gonorrhea.
Coconut fucked Ivy? Ewwww.
Get checked and remember. Penicillin cures gonorrhea.
In addition, Dale foolishly deleted the thread
Oh, and I'm going to dinner @ Ivy's restaurant tonight. I'll report back later...
I've decided against going tonight as there's no telling what kind of shape Bill is in. I'll just save myself the time, money and gas.Oh, and I'm going to dinner @ Ivy's restaurant tonight. I'll report back later...
If you want information I suggest you ask Coc or Ivy. Bill seems to have some 2nd hand knowledge and some of what he posted is wrong (and he hardly posted anything).
BTW, Bill is a good cook but Ivy is the main cook at her restaurant so don't expect the food to be fantastic if she is in jail.
Someone needs to create a
"ITT: Post if you've fucked Ivy"
If you've fucked Ivy, tell us when, if you used protection, and if you've been tested since. Bonus points for telling us what substances you were abusing
This may not be a popular thing to say, but I'm going to give my honest opinion on the matter:
I'd like to preface this, Bill, by saying that I have always liked you, and never looked down on you for anything that went on in your personal life. I understand your anger and sadness right now, especially on top of everything else that is going on in your life, but I think you need to take a step back and think about this for a while before reacting.
Allow me to tell a personal story. Before I met Ian, I was with a guy named Brad for four years, and though it was not perfect, we had a pretty awesome relationship. Maybe after two years or so, Brad told me one day that he had cheated on me, and he kept lying about how far it had gone. At the time, I was heartbroken. I can't think of a time when I felt more shitty, and I dwelled on it for a long time, and always held it against him. Fast forward two more years, and even though things were great, for some reason, I really wanted to meet Ian, and I started emailing him behind Brad's back, until we did meet, and I made the hard decision to leave Brad for Ian.
Since that time, my perspective on cheating has totally changed. Now, I don't want to make it sound like I think cheating is good, because that is not the case. I am not proud of what I did, but people make mistakes, and that's important so you can reflect and learn from them. I think cheating is cowardly and dishonest, but since I did it, even though I knew how much it hurt me, I can understand what goes through a person's mind while they are doing it. The chemicals in the brain are very strong, and really, that makes a lot of sense from a biological standpoint. I honestly don't believe that humans were meant to be monogamous, and that the chemicals in our brains encourage us to fuck a bunch of people to help our species survive. There are some practical aspects in our modern day society to monogamy, but that's why I think communication about sex and what's going on in your head is so important in any relationship. I also think that people often confuse sex and love. Sometimes they go together, but not always.
Bill, I'm offering this as friendly advice, because I understand how dangerous it can be to be so angry. Please take a step back, calm down, and really look at this situation. It takes two to tango as they say, so logically any anger that you feel towards Nick, you should equally feel towards Ivy. Also, you should be able to understand where I am coming from on issue of cheating, because you too, have been in a similar position. The only thing I think Nick and Ivy both did wrong was not communicate what was going on with Bill.
I am truely sorry for all the shitty things going on in your life right now, but making it better is all in your hands, and being angry is not the best way to go about it, and not a good way to live your life. To forgive is right on!
Someone needs to create a
"ITT: Post if you've fucked Ivy"
If you've fucked Ivy, tell us when, if you used protection, and if you've been tested since. Bonus points for telling us what substances you were abusing
Or, people could keep this stuff to their self.
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
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It'd be easier to make a list of those to hang with.
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Dude, you are going to Porcfest?
Sweet. After all of your trolling on this BBS I thought you were a troll :shock:
Jason said you were a cool dude. I guess he was right and I owe both of you an apology.
I'm sorry for thinking you were I troll. I was wrong.
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
Dude, you are going to Porcfest?
Sweet. After all of your trolling on this BBS I thought you were a troll :shock:
Jason said you were a cool dude. I guess he was right and I owe both of you an apology.
I'm sorry for thinking you were I troll. I was wrong.
The fuck, man?
Brasky and John are two internet people I'd like to hang with at PF, preferably over shots, and whatever else is passing along
Just keep in mind that I'm exactly the same person IRL as I am online.
I thought you guys liked the sluts, it’s funny how quick you guys turn on a girl for the same reasons you want to fuck a girl/find a girl attractive.
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
Dude, you are going to Porcfest?
Sweet. After all of your trolling on this BBS I thought you were a troll :shock:
Jason said you were a cool dude. I guess he was right and I owe both of you an apology.
I'm sorry for thinking you were I troll. I was wrong.
The fuck, man?
Brasky and John are two internet people I'd like to hang with at PF, preferably over shots, and whatever else is passing along
You thought that too...weird?
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*The General is back in action!
I have no fucking clue who these people are, nor do I care…but I don’t get why it’s a big deal that she slept with another dude (if that’s even the case).
the only reason why people make a big shitheap about sexual dishonesty compared to other forms of dishonesty is because we're biologically evolved not to want any genetic rivals. I
Quotethe only reason why people make a big shitheap about sexual dishonesty compared to other forms of dishonesty is because we're biologically evolved not to want any genetic rivals. I
LOL. STD's are not real.
59 was an awesome page on which to have started reading this thread. I chuckled at "sludge pot".
It's your old favorite John Shaw, now with 50% more anarchy!
Quotethe only reason why people make a big shitheap about sexual dishonesty compared to other forms of dishonesty is because we're biologically evolved not to want any genetic rivals. I
LOL. STD's are not real.
Yeah cause you can't use condoms AND have sex with multiple people.
Its perfectly natural, but it doesn't stop it from being irrational.
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
It'd be easier to make a list of those to hang with.
*Scribbling shorter list*
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
It'd be easier to make a list of those to hang with.
*Scribbling shorter list*
Sup.
*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
It'd be easier to make a list of those to hang with.
*Scribbling shorter list*
Sup.
How you doin?
fuck yeh, don't put no mary down my throat plz. I must, not, smoke.*Scribbling down list of people to avoid at Porcfest*
It'd be easier to make a list of those to hang with.
*Scribbling shorter list*
Sup.
How you doin?
Yes.
See you at PorcFest, man.
Nick "Coconut" Ryder
"He’s a Christian involved with his local church that understands ... doing what is moral..."
Like taking advantage of a pregnant woman's hormones while she's away from her husband for weeks on end.
Bill,
Can I help you with something? Seriously, I'm not sure what this message means. I am keeping you and your family in prayers, but I feel at a loss of how to help.
Exactly what prayers are those? Or were you "Preying" while she worked on your court case?
I was hoping to get more sleep tonight than I did last night...
Me too.
Works wonders when I'm working on Sam's case, my wife's case, waiting, cooking, preparing multiple orders, bussing, cleaning, raising a 3-year old, and desperately try to rescue the life-savings that I invested in her business so that I don't wind up broke and homeless. Then I get to juggle a child while I abandon my only source of income to find a ride to get all the paperwork notarized and filed in a timely manner.
But I guess knifing me in the back when I was at what I thought my lowest was doesn't "cripple activism" as much as calling you out to admit your guilt and take responsibility for your own actions.
[Ian] "...though if someone broke an agreement, it sounds like it might have been Ivy."
Like there needs to be an agreement to not target someone's pregnant wife?
Do I need agreements with everyone to not steal my property?
Do I need agreements with everyone to not violate my Rights?
Do I need agreements with everyone to do things that are just obviously wrong?
I suppose Nick wouldn't violate any "agreement" if the person he exploited was drunk, drugged, or otherwise compromised. It probably wouldn't even qualify as aggression force or fraud.
I didn't think I needed an agreement with anyone, especially other liberty activists to be decent, respectable, or honorable. I suppose you think that everyone other than the bride and groom at a wedding should take vows not to disrespect the marriage boundaries otherwise anything goes. "Well I didn't agree to anything..."
[Julia]
"I think cheating is cowardly and dishonest..."
"It takes two to tango as they say, so logically any anger that you feel towards Nick, you should equally feel towards Ivy."
Yeah, and that really helps me focus on saving her from the corrupt Welfare state's trumped up felony charges.
"Also, you should be able to understand where I am coming from on issue of cheating, because you too, have been in a similar position. The only thing I think Nick and Ivy both did wrong was not communicate what was going on with Bill. "
Trespassing across set boundaries is wrong whether you call someone on the phone to tell them you're going to do it or not. "Hi, Bob? I'm going to go break into your house while you're out at work." Right. That's why people have doors, locks, build walls, fences, or proclaim marriage. And yes, I did what I did and then I had the spine to confront her face to face about it, and then gave everything I had to make my new relationship and marriage marriage work.
[Dale] Arbitrate WHAT? A fait accompli? Opinions can be private. Reputations are de facto public.
Yeah. "Protector of the Innocent" my ass.
What's your hobby? Clubbing baby seals? Driving people to suicide?
GREAT guy. You'd fit right in at City Council.
Or do you plan on switching careers and working at the women's prison.
You wouldn't even need to acquire any redeeming qualities to get a date.
Scumbag.
Quotethe only reason why people make a big shitheap about sexual dishonesty compared to other forms of dishonesty is because we're biologically evolved not to want any genetic rivals. I
LOL. STD's are not real.
Yeah cause you can't use condoms AND have sex with multiple people.
Its perfectly natural, but it doesn't stop it from being irrational.
Condoms are perfect and never break.
It's only irrational if you really don't care whose kids you're raising.
Besides you know it's taboo you know you're going to hurt the other person and you do it anyway, that says you don't give a shit about them.
I just try to feel sorry for people who are in rough shape. But the bottom line is, Ivy likes dick. You don't even have to say plz.
What I think is funny is that the skankholio gets a pass.
She's damned good to be able to pull that off.
So, I think what we have here is what they used to call "The Classic"
Man cheats on wife with Woman X.
Man leaves wife for Woman X, a person that he KNOWS will involve herself in cheating.
Woman X cheats on man, but defends herself with "But I'M PREGNANT!"
Man is surprised, upset, and angry, BUT DOESN'T BLAME Woman X, or HIMSELF, for that matter, for being a sucker who probably gave up something better with someone better for what he has now by being a cheater himself.
LOL hormones. LOL delicate condition. LOL free will disappears under certain circumstances.
Protip- Cheaters fucking cheat, and you aren't the special one who can "change" them.
If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you.
Once a cheater always a cheater?
You reading this shit off the philosophy school of beer mats or something?
Once a cheater always a cheater?
You reading this shit off the philosophy school of beer mats or something?
You obviously didn't read the whole post.
What I said was - DON'T ACT ALL OFFENDED AND SURPRISED WHEN THE PERSON WHO CHEATS WITH YOU CHEATS ON YOU.
And yes, most cheaters are repeat fucking offenders, so go fuck yourself.
I understand it is easy to be angry at Nick (instead of Ivy or yourself), but let's look at the situation:
I hear that Nick believed her to be a polygamist. If it's true that he was told this, he wouldn't have been aware he was violating an unspoken agreement.
Ivy is known for being very interested in multiple partners. There are many an activist who have reported her coming on to them, and this includes prior to her pregnancy. (As an aside, you probably didn't know she sent a perfume-laced letter to Sam in jail. Things that make you go, hmm...)
Ivy is a grown woman who knows what she wants and knows how to get it. Nick is a young man with precious little experience in matters like these. From my limited understanding of the situation, it sounds to me like Ivy was the instigator and that she told Nick what he needed to hear to feel a little less guilty about what happened between them. She is as responsible for what happened- it's not fair of you to place the weight all on Nick's shoulders.
Did you believe her days of multiple partners were over and that you were her final conquest, Bill? If so, you need only be angry at yourself for believing that.
Of course, I recommend moving past the anger and into forgiveness. Start by forgiving yourself for lashing out and for believing a leopard will change its spots.
Once a cheater always a cheater?
You reading this shit off the philosophy school of beer mats or something?
You obviously didn't read the whole post.
What I said was - DON'T ACT ALL OFFENDED AND SURPRISED WHEN THE PERSON WHO CHEATS WITH YOU CHEATS ON YOU.
And yes, most cheaters are repeat fucking offenders, so go fuck yourself.
"If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you."
sounds pretty definitive to me.
If I may put in my 2 cents on this nonsense. This is exactly what someone would do who didn't like or agree with your group. They cast doubt and suspicion and it can eventually turn everyone against everyone else. Thats how Governments who are power hungry and don't want to let go of that power work. It's a simple method and they have to do little to no work to win. They pit everyone against everyone else and things get destroyed from the inside out. Just ignore any banter that people would say to cast suspicion on a nameless/faceless person. Cause the suspicion gets cast on your friends and neighbors. Rise up and say, you know what, I'm not going to indulge in this nonsense and then sit here and wonder who among us is a spy/snitch/mole/informant/rat or whatever. Move on and ignore this guy. He obviosly wants to tear this group down in the most known and easiest and effective way.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=1061.msg10292#msg10292 (http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=1061.msg10292#msg10292)QuoteIf I may put in my 2 cents on this nonsense. This is exactly what someone would do who didn't like or agree with your group. They cast doubt and suspicion and it can eventually turn everyone against everyone else. Thats how Governments who are power hungry and don't want to let go of that power work. It's a simple method and they have to do little to no work to win. They pit everyone against everyone else and things get destroyed from the inside out. Just ignore any banter that people would say to cast suspicion on a nameless/faceless person. Cause the suspicion gets cast on your friends and neighbors. Rise up and say, you know what, I'm not going to indulge in this nonsense and then sit here and wonder who among us is a spy/snitch/mole/informant/rat or whatever. Move on and ignore this guy. He obviosly wants to tear this group down in the most known and easiest and effective way.
:lol:
Freestaters....
So, I've been getting phone calls and emails asking about Lumpy's somewhat cryptic message here. And today I got the official notice in the mail, so I figured I could mention it at this point. Unless some miracle happens we are going to have to close the restaurant. And there's more.
I've been kinda vague about our financial situation here up til now, but let me explain a bit:
When the opportunity to open up this restaurant came up, we were a bit skeptical but hopeful that we could make it work. We had no money to our name, but I had one person who believed in my coking abilities who was willing to invest the first month's rent, and Bill had a credit card with a high limit. Initially Bill decided to fund this project all on credit to the tune of approximately $17,000K.
We opened on September 12th - the tail end of the busy season. I've mentioned to people lately that "we get about 4 customers a week" - it's been that way since November. In fact, we made more money in the last two weeks of September, than any other month at all. In fact, those two weeks in September were nearly double the next-highest month's income.
As months passed, and we had no customers, Bill decided to dig into his nest egg. His mother had put aside $20K for him to use as a down-payment on a home.
We used it all.
So, huge debt, then drained nest-egg, next step was to stop paying certain invoices that maybe weren't necessary. So first the DirectTV was shut off, then they came and took the dumpster away.
Then we progressively got behind in necessary utilities. Once a necessary utility gets shut off, we will be forced to close our doors with not a penny to our name and no way of earning any of it back.
I've mentioned recently the electric would "probably" be shut of in the next couple weeks? Yeah. I got the disconnect notice today.
Date of Disconnect: April 28th.
my birthday no less....
Cry
On top of that, the place we stay at in Grafton is not our property, and the end of our contract is May 1st.
So we will be broke, in tons of debt, and homeless by May 1st. So that's the story. You heard it straight from the horse's mouth, since I know the rumor mill has other (mis)information...
Love how you keep editing your posts to soften them after I've responded, Fatcat.
Are you suggesting that she's licking cat in jail?I just try to feel sorry for people who are in rough shape. But the bottom line is, Ivy likes dick. You don't even have to say plz.
to be fair, she likes the other stuph too...
Love how you keep editing your posts to soften them after I've responded, Fatcat.
I edit the majority of my posts after the fact when I think of more shit to say, its not some conspiracy to make you look like an asshole.
I stand by my point that the kind of common ideas of leopard can't change its spots, once a [blank] always a [blank], are ostensibly illustrative, but fundamentally unhelpful and empty.
I can see that it looks like I'm misrepresenting your point, what you said was more complex and subtle than how i responded, but my intention was to rail against the common sense idea that people don't really change and that a few actions can be used to define an entire person.
I'm not just talking about cheating here, the same kind of belief is common place around criminals, liars, and pretty much any kind of infraction.
I certainly don't write in a way that is endearing to friendly banter, but I don't see why you have to get so hostile with all the name calling shit, although your generally level headed so I guess I'm probably being more of an asshole than I'm aware of.
What I think is funny is that the skankholio gets a pass.
She's damned good to be able to pull that off.
So, I think what we have here is what they used to call "The Classic"
Man cheats on wife with Woman X.
Man leaves wife for Woman X, a person that he KNOWS will involve herself in cheating.
Woman X cheats on man, but defends herself with "But I'M PREGNANT!"
Man is surprised, upset, and angry, BUT DOESN'T BLAME Woman X, or HIMSELF, for that matter, for being a sucker who probably gave up something better with someone better for what he has now by being a cheater himself.
LOL hormones. LOL delicate condition. LOL free will disappears under certain circumstances.
Protip- Cheaters fucking cheat, and you aren't the special one who can "change" them.
If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you.
Condoms are perfect and never break.
Condoms are perfect and never break.
Condoms never break my ass!