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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3330 on: August 05, 2010, 01:01:32 PM »

From what I understand, Law of Attraction does not work with negatives. For example, "I really don't want to get pulled over! I really don't want to get pulled over!" You will be pulled over.

FTFY

If it doesn't work, then a cat won't fart in John Shaw's face today.

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3331 on: August 05, 2010, 01:01:42 PM »

From what I understand, Law of Attraction does not work with negatives. For example, "I really don't want to get pulled over! I really don't want to get pulled over!" You will be pulled over.

FTFY

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3332 on: August 05, 2010, 01:12:09 PM »

http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3701.0

this is more about the fact that EVERYTHING i did over the past year happens to be saved to sam's computer, and now he believes all of it is entirely his to do what he pleases with it, even for profit, with no compensation to me.  much of that stuff was not even something we agreed on, or that i worked on with him, it was just my work that happened to be saved to his computers cause mine broke when he spilled water on it last year.

ian, to use the example of you and mark, say you guys part ways and you still want to use his promos; but you also want to use everything mark has ever done over the time you were together, weither it was for you or not.  that's where i have a problem.

i also have a real issue with the attitude sam has been taking with activism lately.  i feel he is too aggressive, angry, and just interrupts and insults people... and i don't really want to be associated with that.

however, after one amazing email this morning, the world is a happy place, and i have decided how to address this issue:
if sam chooses to use my work, i will make better work.  if he makes his own work... i will still make better work ;)
hehehe, win in the market place, cause i'm the original badass ;)  

this thread was to publicly out my request for the stop of sam's use of my work, so everyone was aware it wasn't being done with my approval.  there are just some things i cannot support, like the anger/insults/belittling sarcasm on the megaphone; the constant interrupting of anyone he disagrees with, especially bureaucrats; the negativity towards activists who fail to live up to his standards; etc... because i cannot support such things, i do not wish my work to be associated with it.  if he decides to use it anyway, everyone now knows that i don't necessarily approve/condone the message they are attached to.  this is not a "litigation threat" type thing.  this is a "i'm declaring my lack of association to this, because i may not entirely agree with it."

hmm...

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Ahh - that helps clarify.  If your work wasn't intended for his/OTN use, then clearly he has no claim on it.

Well, except it was voluntarily allowed to exit her property and enter his computer.  I remember this discussion with this L. Neil Smith character and....
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3333 on: August 05, 2010, 01:13:08 PM »

From what I understand, Law of Attraction does not work with negatives. For example, "I really don't want to get pulled over! I really don't want to get pulled over!" You will be pulled over.

FTFY

If it doesn't work, then a cat won't fart in John Shaw's face today.

Taors is simultaneously abusing Fleshlight #36 and ordering #37 even as I type this sentence.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3334 on: August 05, 2010, 01:23:12 PM »

Can't she just LOA it off of Sam's computer?

"I really want my work to quantum tunnel to my hard drive. I really want my work to quantum tunnel to my hard drive."
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3335 on: August 05, 2010, 01:24:05 PM »

Can't she just LOA it off of Sam's computer?

"I really want my work to quantum tunnel to my hard drive. I really want my work to quantum tunnel to my hard drive."

Maybe it's only him.  Maybe she doesn't have faith in it.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3336 on: August 05, 2010, 02:24:30 PM »

Maybe if LOA isnt working you should try the older methods of praying or meditation.

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3337 on: August 05, 2010, 02:43:38 PM »

Wait... there's a person called smeg?

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3338 on: August 05, 2010, 03:31:36 PM »

Wait... there's a person called smeg?

Yes.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3339 on: August 05, 2010, 03:32:46 PM »

Does Sam make money with OTN?
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3340 on: August 05, 2010, 03:58:14 PM »

Does Sam make money with OTN?

She's making the claim and he ain't denying it.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3341 on: August 05, 2010, 04:00:48 PM »

Does Sam make money with OTN?

She's making the claim and he ain't denying it.

I'm guessing the term "make money" is subjective in this context.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3342 on: August 05, 2010, 04:02:33 PM »

He's certainly making SOME money. Off of her stuff? Dunno.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3343 on: August 05, 2010, 04:07:13 PM »

He's certainly making SOME money. Off of her stuff? Dunno.

You'd be amazed at how much OTN stuff was hers, from what I understand.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #3344 on: August 05, 2010, 04:42:32 PM »

He's certainly making SOME money. Off of her stuff? Dunno.

You'd be amazed at how much OTN stuff was hers, from what I understand.

Why would you want to brand someone elses stuff as yours anyway? If there's a limited supply, then such a short term plan will be exposed once all the content is used. Of course, I'm not really sure what the content is exactly, seeing as how I never really watch anything by OTN, let alone know if they have a website beyond a youtube channel.
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