Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[sandm000]

I don't think it's fair to call Ryan a "con man"
It seems like he had some serious money issues, that led to (or were exacerbated by) some serious 'fessing-up-the-truth issues, but those things seem to really have affected only those people that (a) lived with him, and/or (b) lent him money. Meanwhile, as an activist, I thought he did a pretty darn good job, in terms of sign waves, talking to the politicians, talking to the media etc., etc.

It's not fair to call him a con man, but he lied to get money and stole money? Exploiting human emotions to gain a monetary advantage is the definition of a con man, or would you rather call him thief?

Meanwhile, would you have paid him to be an activist if he had asked for money?

[sillyperson]

Hmmmm... I didn't know about some of this stuff... I guess I didn't know him too well!

[BonerJoe]

Hmmmm... I didn't know about some of this stuff... I guess I didn't know him too well!

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[ny2nh]

I don't think it's fair to call Ryan a "con man"
It seems like he had some serious money issues, that led to (or were exacerbated by) some serious 'fessing-up-the-truth issues, but those things seem to really have affected only those people that (a) lived with him, and/or (b) lent him money. Meanwhile, as an activist, I thought he did a pretty darn good job, in terms of sign waves, talking to the politicians, talking to the media etc., etc.

I'm OK with conman....but if slime ball works better for you, I'm OK with that as well. He is a conman in the sense that he cons people into thinking he is something he is not. He repeatedly told his roommates that he was doing one thing when he was doing another. He took their money to pay bill and didn't pay them.....and took more than the bills even were so that he was actually profiting from it.

Being an good activist in my opinion does not give you an out to be a slime ball.

[BonerJoe]

Being an good activist in my opinion does not give you an out to be a slime ball.

People can be a slime ball in many different ways...

[Libertarianssuck]

Being a slime ball is no excuse for stealing. You can lie about who you are and risk your own credibility which is stupid. But he had a verbal agreement right? He accepted someones money as payment then broke the agreement. He took the money and didn't deliver. Isn't that in effect stealing?

[blackie]

You guys are just racist against gays.

[Libertarianssuck]

You guys are just racist against gays.

Being gay is a race?

[One two three]

You guys are just racist against gays.

Being gay is a race?

It's as much as race as being black or white, since there aren't separate human races.

[BonerJoe]

You guys are just racist against gays.

Being gay is a race?

It's as much as race as being black or white, since there aren't separate human races.

In after.

[Libertarianssuck]

You guys are just racist against gays.

Being gay is a race?

It's as much as race as being black or white, since there aren't separate human races.

Scientifically speaking I think the concept is rejected as far as categorizing humans but politically and socially it's not. Race is still seen as a categorization of people based on mostly visual heritable traits. You could argue that being gay is genetic or not. Doesn't really matter. Saying someone is racist against gays just sounds funny to me. Racism is usually tied to people of skin color regardless but not of actions.


"Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is defined as an 'irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals'"

Wiki says that but to me it sounds weird too since I thought phobia was just an irrational fear. And I'm starting to realize I'm so bored at work that I'm spending time on labels when I really don't give a shit.

[One two three]

Race was not a positive term.  It was created to justify hurt of people in one culture to people in another culture.  It is often still used for that, although some people are confused and think they are using race for positive things, nowadays.

[anarchir]

Race was not a positive term.  It was created to justify hurt of people in one culture to people in another culture.  It is often still used for that, although some people are confused and think they are using race for positive things, nowadays.

The only person who should care about your race is your doctor, for medical purposes.

It is ok to care and inquire as to other's culture of course, so as to be respectful.

[Libertarianssuck]

As far as it's history I have no idea how it was created. I just call shit as I see it in today's society. Just like libertarian became a fucked up label. Anarchy/Anarchist sounds bad to public as well. Free Marketeer not many people know. Anarcho-Capitalist isn't very wide spread either. Did words start off with a certain meaning? Don't definitions change over generations. Fuck, faggot, bitch, etc. None of it really matters I guess. People love to get technical over a mainstream pretence. Still doesn't change widely accepted views or notions.

[Libertarianssuck]

Race was not a positive term.  It was created to justify hurt of people in one culture to people in another culture.  It is often still used for that, although some people are confused and think they are using race for positive things, nowadays.

The only person who should care about your race is your doctor, for medical purposes.

It is ok to care and inquire as to other's culture of course, so as to be respectful.

I don't really care it's not like I view any "race" inferior or "alien". Everyone is human regardless of ethnicity or cultural background. Anyone should be free to enjoy what makes them unique. Call it race or anything you want.