Okay, I have no idea what the fuck your angle is and im not interested in teasing it out of you as if the assumptions I've made on your position are widly arrogant, and that you're some wise impartial all seer in this.
Someone who clearly cares alot about 9/11, and makes a point to distance himself from "truthers", yet makes no positive statements about his position whatsoever, then gets pissy when I make some pretty basic assumptions about what they might be.
Instead of actually telling me what you think and why I should care about 9/11 any more than any other mass murder, you accuse me of making conspiracies.
As far as proof that the hijackers are dead. THEY FLEW INTO A FUCKING BUILDING. Whoever drove the planes into a building is dead. Everything I stated comes from "facts". Passport and airline records. And a CIA report on Al Queda being determined to attack with hijacked planes. Now if you want to dispute the evidence for those facts, go ahead, but since you've made no position there is nothing for me to debate.
Clearly you're one of these assholes who likes to greatly distort definitions of word so they apply so broadly you can use them whenever and however you please. The fact that the 9/11 attacks broadly fall under the category of conspiracy i.e. 'An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act', does not mean my opinions constitute a conspiracy as you stated.
please continue with your conspiracy.
You obviously never knew, not likely to know, anyone that suffered, is STILL SUFFERING from losses of 9/11. Be it directly from the day of or as you say someone in Afghanistan. Funerals are not about the dead, but rather the living that remain.
boo hoo.
Do you care about all the people who've died due to malnutrition, malaria, AIDS, dysentery, car accidents this year? Do you light a candle for them all? Hold a minutes silence for each one? It wouldn't be possible to do anything else with your day. And as if you could even be aware of all the suffering going on at any one time.
Or maybe its just easy for you to pay lipservice to the idea of universal caring without rationally following it through.
You care about people you know and people who have affected your life, and occasionally people you see on the news thats about it. Just like I'm sure you're not going to attend every funeral in your area, but you probably will attend the funerals of your family and friends.
I can say that I care about all human suffering, but its a meaningless claim. Even when I think about malaria in Africa, I only think in broad terms and imaginations. I've never met any of these malaria sufferers, I don't know their names, I only know of their existance as a broad statical fact because wikipedia and clever television programmes and satellite images tell me they do.
I can care about the idea of suffering (which I think is what you may be talking about) but I can't care about a person if I don't know they exist.
The hardships in my families lives were born that day. Whether we learned anything from it is the question.
You can talk all you want about how important any suffering is, and that you don't favor victims of 9/11 anymore than victims of any other tragedy, but your actions betray your actual priority.
Why don't you complain that FTL don't pay enough attention to genocide in Darfur, or malaria deaths? all of which get far less attention than 9/11 does and have claimed more lives, and are still occuring.
Where's your threads on all the bombings that have happened in the last 8 years and how that applies to liberty?
Clearly you value American lives, and victims of terrorism more than other lives and other ways of suffering, otherwise you wouldn't be making large threads about them. Not to mention your condescending attitude,false impartiality and intellectual cowardice in actually laying out what your position is.
you've made no declarative statements. Only asked broad questions and made vague allusions to "what really happened", "points that need to be made" and "facts". Without explicitly mentioning any of them.
There's no reliable way of avoiding being a victim of a terrorist attack bar staying out of laregely populated areas, and theres no "lessons to be learnt" that haven't been learnt by any other act of terrorism in a major city, of which there have been many.