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Scott in Winnipeg

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What's the Harm
« on: December 17, 2009, 05:20:01 PM »

For those folks that think the worse thing that quackery does is nothing (as claimed on last nights show) perhaps you should check out this link.

http://whatstheharm.net/
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 05:34:28 PM »

still does nothing.  "Science" folk keep peddling their wares like the Mormons who showed up at my door. 
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 05:38:03 PM »

I wonder how many people science has killed.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 05:40:27 PM »

still does nothing.  "Science" folk keep peddling their wares like the Mormons who showed up at my door. 

Really? So if you spend the money and time on using acupuncture (which doesn't do anything long term) to treat your chronic back pain, is that nothing? When you go for a spinal adjustment from a chiropractor and, basing their practice being based on magic of sublixation, breaks your neck, is that nothing? When you go see a physcic surgeon to remove your tumour instead of getting cut open and you die because the physicic surgeon doesn't actually remove anything, is that nothing?
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 05:41:07 PM »

I wonder how many people science has killed.

Millions. That is not the issue here. I'm talking about medicine based on nonsense, when people say "what's the harm", as I heard on last nights show. Well, there is plenty of harm.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 05:48:22 PM »

I wonder how many people science has killed.

No more than the law of gravity has killed. 
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 08:48:57 PM »

When you go see a physcic surgeon to remove your tumour instead of getting cut open and you die because the physicic surgeon doesn't actually remove anything, is that nothing?

Um... are you unfamiliar with the definition of "nothing"?
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 08:53:03 PM »

Stupidity harms the logos of a person.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 09:34:08 PM »

Eating baking soda isn't going to harm anyone.  It is retarded and pointless though.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 09:40:58 PM »

Eating baking soda isn't going to harm anyone.  It is retarded and pointless though.

Unless you're running cross country. In that case, it prevents a buildup of lactic acid.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 11:59:12 PM »

Jesus-titty-fucking-Christ Scott, give it up all ready.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 12:01:35 AM »

Eating baking soda isn't going to harm anyone.  It is retarded and pointless though.

Unless you're running cross country. In that case, it prevents a buildup of lactic acid.
Interesting, never heard that before and I was very competitive in XC racing and track in High School.  I'll do some research on that now.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 10:48:41 AM »

Jesus-titty-fucking-Christ Scott, give it up all ready.

No. I'm tired of the crap I've been hearing, they need to be corrected.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 11:27:28 AM »

Jesus-titty-fucking-Christ Scott, give it up all ready.
No. I'm tired of the crap I've been hearing, they need to be corrected.

Scott, you seem completely unaware of the concept of "reputation" as regards medicine.

Medicine is a service. People who do no research prior to their purchase of the service deserve everything they get.

So what if someone wants to go to a psychic surgeon, I'm not going to use force to stop them. When they don't get better, that psychic gets a huge black mark on their reputation.

Does anyone hire The Amazing Kreskin any more? No. Because he was outed as a fraud. No coercion required.
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Re: What's the Harm
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 11:57:44 AM »

Jesus-titty-fucking-Christ Scott, give it up all ready.
No. I'm tired of the crap I've been hearing, they need to be corrected.

Scott, you seem completely unaware of the concept of "reputation" as regards medicine.

Medicine is a service. People who do no research prior to their purchase of the service deserve everything they get.

So what if someone wants to go to a psychic surgeon, I'm not going to use force to stop them. When they don't get better, that psychic gets a huge black mark on their reputation.

Does anyone hire The Amazing Kreskin any more? No. Because he was outed as a fraud. No coercion required.

Where have I said anything about using coersion? I haven't. I'm talking about countering the crap about medicine that I've heard on FTL lately with good info. Yes, people are harmed by scams and fake medicine, to claim otherwise is incorrect. And No, I don't blame the vicitim fof fraud, I blame the person committing the fraud.
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