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ziggy_encaoua

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Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« on: April 24, 2009, 07:57:04 AM »

Here is the original meaning of fascism according to Mussolini himself

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Mark & Ian do use the term in the correct context in regards to the above quote

However the problem is people don't know the true meaning of the term & attach different connotations to the term & so when you say something like we are living in fascist set up then people are just going to think you’re a kook.

Take this interview with Ron Paul from a few weeks back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TS7Jf6XBjQ

Notice the reaction of the interviewer when Ron uses the term fascist, he at least allows Ron to expand some & that needs to happen more.

To say we are living under a fascist regime alone won’t help any it does need to be expanded upon being as people aren’t educated enough.
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NHArticleTen

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 07:58:40 AM »


still...do we need to dumb the message down to the language of cockroaches?

really?

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ziggy_encaoua

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 07:59:59 AM »

If its cockroaches who are preventing freedom then yes
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Zappa88

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 09:01:25 AM »

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
This quote, although I agree with it, is in dispute as to whether or not it's geniune.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascism_and_corporatism
http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html
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Alex Libman

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 10:05:59 AM »

I'm sure there are 10,000+ flavors of Abrahamic or Dharmic religions.  I'm not going to get distracted on whether I am wrong for referring to Moonies as Christians, and so on, from where I stand they look Christian enough to me.  The same applies to collectivist governments: socialists, commies, fascists, nazis, anarcho-retards that fail to recognize property rights, democrats, republicans, etc.

There is no obligation to study an irrational philosophy and use its terminology if you know its basis and outcomes are undesirable.  There's no limit to the amount of absurdity people can come up with and claim that you have no right to criticize what you don't fully understand.  If there is a God or altruism involved - no thank you.

And there's nothing wrong with using that interchangeability for strategic benefit: if democrats get most upset at being called fascists, and if republicans get most upset at being called communists, then that's what we should call them.  A pile of shit by any other name...  is still a pile of shit.  :twisted:
« Last Edit: April 24, 2009, 10:12:03 AM by Alex Libman »
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NHArticleTen

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 10:11:37 AM »


all of these points...good or bad...whatever...

Rand knew the majority of human beings just want to ride on a gravy train while someone else buys the tickets, builds the trains, handles the baggage, etc...

again...one in a hundred will even listen to the message...only one in two thousand will actually act upon that message...

why do you think there are only a couple dozen of us here?

to wit...

are you the "one" of the hundred...

or the "one" of the two thousand...

enjoy!

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ziggy_encaoua

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 10:55:28 AM »

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again...one in a hundred will even listen to the message...only one in two thousand will actually act upon that message...

You'd be lucky to find a 100 people in this country with the liberty mindset & that's out of a population of 60 million
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NHArticleTen

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 11:33:24 AM »

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again...one in a hundred will even listen to the message...only one in two thousand will actually act upon that message...

You'd be lucky to find a 100 people in this country with the liberty mindset & that's out of a population of 60 million

damn zigster...

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ziggy_encaoua

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2009, 02:59:19 PM »

Here's an example

As soon as you say you believe individuals have a right to own firearms you'll automatically be labelled as a kook & castigated
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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 10:11:46 PM »

Case in point: At a community event over the weekend, about 500 people. Nationalist anthem, flag ceremony, pledge of allegience. I was the only one to sit down. I got the stink eye all day, but not one person confronted me on it.
I use the term fascism to describe the US whenever possible, at least people ask what I mean by it.
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ziggy_encaoua

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Re: Using The Term ‘Fascism’
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 06:45:49 AM »

Sure nobody is going to confront you they're cowards & get government to do it for them
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