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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2009, 12:34:37 AM »
Lesson on?
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2009, 01:22:39 AM »
Quote from: Sincere and the Yessirs on October 16, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
Lesson on?

Do you really want me to explain that violence is not tolerated here?  Because if I have to explain everything out in refrigerator magnet letters to you, you're gonna be insulted. 
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2009, 01:37:11 AM »
Quote from: Richard III on October 16, 2009, 01:25:53 AM
how many times does sincere have to make violent threats to members of this bbs before he gets banned? I'm pretty sure that making the kind of threats he does is against the bbs rules. At the very least, he should be given shithead status.

Jeez, Richard.  You can't see I'm working into it?

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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2009, 01:03:11 PM »
Watch this.  Because I said so:
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2009, 02:29:46 PM »
Quote from: Drifter on October 16, 2009, 01:22:39 AM
Quote from: Sincere and the Yessirs on October 16, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
Lesson on?

Do you really want me to explain that violence is not tolerated here?  Because if I have to explain everything out in refrigerator magnet letters to you, you're gonna be insulted. 

but the future threat violence due to racism is? So we tolerate open racism on this board?
Honestly? Is that what we are saying now?

Because I'm pretty sure NH10 advocated violence 24 times a day every day....
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2009, 09:34:58 PM »
Beating the shit out of a biggot is only going to reinforce hate.
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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2009, 02:15:32 AM »
Quote from: jakx92 on October 26, 2009, 09:34:58 PM
Beating the shit out of a biggot is only going to reinforce hate.
So?  What's your point?
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2009, 09:29:29 PM »
My point is it's not going to solve any problems, only reaffirm ignorant views.
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2009, 11:51:14 PM »
Quote from: jakx92 on October 28, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
My point is it's not going to solve any problems, only reaffirm ignorant views.
Beating the shit out of a bigot is satisfying.
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2009, 04:08:11 PM »
Quote from: Admiral Naismith on October 28, 2009, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: jakx92 on October 28, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
My point is it's not going to solve any problems, only reaffirm ignorant views.
Beating the shit out of a bigot is satisfying.

If one is bigoted against bigots, doesn't that make one a bigot??
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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2009, 04:36:09 PM »
Quote from: ChristianAnarchist on October 30, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
If one is bigoted against bigots, doesn't that make one a bigot??

If one is bigoted, then by definition one is a bigot.

However, I don't think hatred of bigots is really bigotry.  Bigotry means ascribing to a group of people a characteristic that they don't necessarily have in common by virtue of being members of that group (Asians are smart, Jews are greedy, Blacks are criminals, etc.), and then judging them on that basis.  But by definition, all bigots have bigotry in common.  If hating bigots is bigotry, then it's also bigoted to hate or otherwise judge members of any group for any reason at all.  Child molesters, Nazis, police officers, communists, whatever.
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2009, 07:49:06 PM »
Well lets try these on for size: (both from dictionary.com)

big⋅ot
  /ˈbɪgət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [big-uht] Show IPA
–noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

So if one's "belief" is that one race is different (or even inferior) and you are intolerant of that person because of his "belief", then by this definition, you are a bigot...


big·ot    (bĭg'ət)   
n.  One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Here we have you "anti-bigots" in your "group" who are strongly partial to your "group's" judgment that bigots are bad and so are vigorously intolerant to those "bigot's". 

Nope, sorry, you anti-bigots are BIGOTS !!!

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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2009, 07:55:58 PM »
By those definitions, we're all bigots.  Everybody is intolerant of certain beliefs and strongly partial to their own group or beliefs against others.  Such is the problem with relying on dictionaries for definitions to use in debate-- it's incredibly easy to find definitions that are so broad as to be completely useless. 
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2009, 08:17:10 PM »
Quote from: Rillion on October 30, 2009, 04:36:09 PM
Bigotry means ascribing to a group of people a characteristic that they don't necessarily have in common by virtue of being members of that group (Asians are smart, Jews are greedy, Blacks are criminals, etc.), and then judging them on that basis.

I think that's better described as prejudice rather than bigotry.

Both you and Gene have good points, though I think Gene is splitting hairs here a little bit.
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Re: The Race Show 10.5.09
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2009, 08:32:57 PM »
Quote from: Rillion on October 30, 2009, 07:55:58 PM
By those definitions, we're all bigots.  Everybody is intolerant of certain beliefs and strongly partial to their own group or beliefs against others.  Such is the problem with relying on dictionaries for definitions to use in debate-- it's incredibly easy to find definitions that are so broad as to be completely useless. 

No, I'm not a bigot.  I have tolerance towards all beliefs and I associate with most anyone who does not threaten harm to me and mine...

You will note that according to the definition, you can be "partial" to your own belief but you are only a bigot if you are "intolerant" of those who differ from you...

So I am not a bigot, but you are...
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