I like to listen to gardner because hes always got this wealth of information that hes dying to get out. You can tell by the sound of his voice that he can't talk fast enough for his own satisfaction. Hes got it all planned out in the back of his head, and your just waiting for him to finish laying out the backround info to make some super cohesive argument.
Nick is also crazy smart, and when he has something to say its always great. Hes the humble mediator between ians insanity and marks hesitance to take the last step.
So, i agree, if they talked more i wouldn't mind.