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Re: Show hosts need to take Bradley to task on his apologism for cops.
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 07:18:03 PM »

I would venture to guess that most police officers have the attitude that their authority should be respected at all times. When someone doesn't follow that play-book, the officer tends to take it personal and if they have to chase you down, or you don't "comply" in any way shape or form, sometimes they take their aggression out on you in a more personal way for making them run.

Even if they've got you on the ground after a 5 block foot chase and handcuffed behind your back, they might give the guy a little kick in the side as if to say "DAMN YOU MOTHERFUCKER, FOR MAKING ME CHASE YOU..... YOU DONT EVER RUN FROM THE POLICE!!" .... that sort of thing. Not to mention all the adrenaline coursing through their veins at the moment.

Not making excuses for it at all, just saying I bet that has a lot to do with it.
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Re: Show hosts need to take Bradley to task on his apologism for cops.
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2012, 03:43:15 AM »

If it gets known that everyday cops are willing to torture a arrestee are they not afraid they will get groups of criminals that would rather do anything then get arrested? Get a lot of criminals who know they have nothing to lose and being a cop would be dangerous.

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Re: Show hosts need to take Bradley to task on his apologism for cops.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2012, 12:44:25 PM »

Have you done so? My question is why a cop would hurt a person in cuffs more, unless they were simply a sadist. I was hoping there was a simple answer. To clarify the "friends" I am referring to were wanting to get some digs in on a couple guys I had already beaten. They were spiteful and pathetic, but I didn't really beat them up I guess I just pulled them off and tossed them aside with a bit more then minimum force. Sorry if I came off accusitory.

While acting as an agent of public authority I have tasered someone who was in handcuffs.  The short story:

- Arrested a person for driving while inebriated and assault at a bar.  

- The person resisted arrest and I had to physically subdue them to get them into handcuffs.

- The person verbally refused to get in the police car.

- I tried to gently force the person into the car.  The person fought back with their legs.

- I warned them numerous times that I would tase them if they didn't get in the car.  (I think I told them I would ask them 10 times before taseing them.)

- I fired the taser, the person fell in the car.

- There was some sort of unofficial internal review of how I used the taser.  I never faced allegations of violation of policy, but I do know my bosses were not thrilled with how I handled the situation.

- An attorney for the person I arrested investigated my use of taser, but they never filed suit.

In handing this particularly drunk and combative individual (female and of particularly small stature), I believe I did the right thing.  The alternative to getting the person into the police car would have been to use pepper spray or brute force.  Brute force against someone petite, female, combative, intoxicated, and in handcuffs can result in serious "color of law" civil rights violations claim.  

Apprehending intoxicated and combative people of the opposite sex without hurting them or opening yourself up to a federal lawsuit...  is tricky.  

The police have seconds to make decisions that lawyers and the public have months to critique.  This, of course, is the justification for all of the immunity that the police get when they DO legitimately screw up.  

Maybe the government should be outright prohibited from arguing for immunity when its agents do outrageous things so long as their official hiring policies are like this: http://www.defendingthetruth.com/topic/7380-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores/.
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Re: Show hosts need to take Bradley to task on his apologism for cops.
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 03:07:47 AM »

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/the-show/less-stephanie/225/
When one has to deal with something real and you do the best you can and questian yourself afterwords, it is best to simply own it. I don't think I would have handled the situation any better than you Brad.
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