Scott from MA wasn't totally wrong.

[Euler]

I thought Gard and Dale could have done a little better with Scott.  Scott made many valid and many invalid points.  The invalid ones shouldn't invalidate the valid ones.  On top of it, he is a collectivist.  A lot of his facts are right, but, like most collectivists, his conclusions are wrong. 

Jewish people do run Hollywood.  http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column.  So what.  Scott thinks this is the same as "The Jews" run Hollywood.  Marx was Jewish.  So what.  Again, this doesn't mean "Jews" invented communism.  Actually, communism existed before Marx was alive. 

I don't like the political correctness among some libertarians.  If members of the Christian Right were in charge of Hollywood studios, no one would accuse me of bigotry if I said that they were promoting Christian values through their movies.  Are Jews who are the head of the Hollywood studios not human?  Don't they have political views which may be expressed through the movies they produce? 

Is anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitism?  Can one be the former and not the latter?  And what he said about radical movements was partially correct.  No, I don't think Jews or anyone else invented homosexuality.  I do think that the power structure, which Scott unfortunately thinks is Jewish, uses radical and not so radical movements to increase the power of government.  Can anyone here seriously say that the organized homosexual movement is about individual liberty?  What about the NAACP which incidentally was founded primarily by whites?  What about feminism, individualist feminists excluded?  Do you really thing Betty Friedan was some middle class housewife minding her own business one day and then decided that women were being so oppressed that she got the feminist movement going all by herself?

Is Scott's collectivism based on ethnicity/religion abhorrent?  Yes. But no more so that any other kind of collectivism.  I doubt he will ever become a libertarian.

[mikehz]

Is anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitism?

pret much. It's just shorthand for bigotry.

The auto industry was started by Protestants. Does this mean (gasp) that Lutherans, Baptists, and Presbyterians are out to rule the world?

In fact, I'd venture that Scott himself is a member of some organization which has some members in high industries. Therefore, according to his system, that makes Scott a mighty suspicious guy.

Scott was incorrect about nearly every "fact" he spewed. I stopped listening after his referencing of the completely debunked "Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

[IndyCA]

Is anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitism?  Can one be the former and not the latter? 

I have found in my experience that the vast majority of vocal anti-Zionists are anti-Semitic and result to unfalsifiable conspiracy theories to support their views.  That said, I have also found the vast majority of vocal Zionists to be very bigoted, xenophobic, and paranoid warmongers. 

Example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU

[Cowcidile]

Scott is obviously a jew. Listen to him he sounds like woody allen.

[Dylboz]

I am anti-Zionist, but not anti-Jewish. I resent the idea that they're the same thing. I have absolutely nothing against Jews, but violent genocidal land stealing apartheid statists? Yeah, I've got a lot of problems with them, no matter what religion they subscribe to.

[MacFall]

Is anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitism?

pret much. It's just shorthand for bigotry.

Only the way Scott used it - and he was using it incorrectly. There are anti-Zionist Hasidic Jews. Lots of them. Zionism is a political ideology centered around support for the expansion of the state of Israel. An anti-Zionist is no more a Jew hater than an anti-Nazi is a Caucasian hater.

[fatcat]

Is anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitism?

pret much. It's just shorthand for bigotry.

Only the way Scott used it - and he was using it incorrectly. There are anti-Zionist Hasidic Jews. Lots of them. Zionism is a political ideology centered around support for the expansion of the state of Israel. An anti-Zionist is no more a Jew hater than an anti-Nazi is a Caucasian hater.

this.

Although its highly convenient for pro-zionists to try and bundle anti-zionism with anti-semetism

[rwwright]

Jews (or at least a certain genetic strain of them) are overrepresented in positions of economic power for much the same reason that they are overrepresented on the list of Nobel laureates in the sciences -- their average IQ is higher than that of the rest of the population.

And that's not collectivism; just statistics. It doesn't mean that any given Jew is smarter than any other given person, but it explains why there are these broad trends.

[Euler]

Jews (or at least a certain genetic strain of them) are overrepresented in positions of economic power for much the same reason that they are overrepresented on the list of Nobel laureates in the sciences -- their average IQ is higher than that of the rest of the population.

And that's not collectivism; just statistics. It doesn't mean that any given Jew is smarter than any other given person, but it explains why there are these broad trends.

This sort of butresses my point.  Jews end up in many government dominated fields because they go on to higher education which is a feeder for these positions.  I think the IQ info. came from "The Bell Curve" which I take with a grain of salt.  Specifically, it was Ashkenazi Jews who had the higher IQs.  Another historical point I forgot to mention was that in the distant past Christians may have been prohibited from getting into moneylending so it fell to the Jews of the time.