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Rodeen

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Religion = Horseshit
« on: May 30, 2009, 09:52:39 PM »

No matter how your polish that turd, religion is a boring topic.  Furthermore, religion is useless in this day and age as a belief. Example: "the christian anarchist".


Discuss.



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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 10:00:48 PM »

Ur mom.
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NHArticleTen

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 08:33:37 AM »


the shaman has always fleeced and subjugated the sheeple...throughout history...

why should today be any different...sheeple murder for the shamen...

all hail the Gasoline God, Christian Mercenaries International...

sick fucks...

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 10:29:34 AM »

No, religion is not horseshit. And the reason why so many anarchists are atheists is because they are impious people who don't want to recognize any authority higher than themselves.
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NHArticleTen

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 10:37:32 AM »

No, religion is not horseshit. And the reason why so many anarchists are atheists is because they are impious people who don't want to recognize any authority higher than themselves.

ESPECIALLY not your brand of "higher authority" since it seeks to subjugate and kidnap and murder those you dislike...

disgusting...

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 10:52:33 AM »

No, religion is not horseshit. And the reason why so many anarchists are atheists is because they are impious people who don't want to recognize any authority higher than themselves.

This.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 10:56:07 AM »

No matter how your polish that turd, religion is a boring topic.  Furthermore, religion is useless in this day and age as a belief. Example: "the christian anarchist".
Discuss.


Here's the turd Adam Savage polished in Mythbusters, it came out really nice, shiny and round. Religion can also be a nice and shiny, polished turd. But it's more often not.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 11:55:03 AM »

No matter how your polish that turd, religion is a boring topic.  Furthermore, religion is useless in this day and age as a belief. Example: "the christian anarchist".


Discuss.

No, it's too boring.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 12:59:25 PM »

No, religion is not horseshit. And the reason why so many anarchists are atheists is because they are impious people who don't want to recognize any authority higher than themselves.

I'll recognise it when I see it. C'mon, show me this authority.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 02:53:59 PM »

the reason why so many anarchists are atheists is because they are impious people who don't want to recognize any authority higher than themselves.

The reason I'm an atheist is because I've not seen any evidence that warrants the belief in any religion.

There are religions that DON'T have any higher authority, but do deal in "supernatural" bullshit, i.e. Buddhism, and I reject them for the same reason I reject monotheistic

Of course it would be much more horrible if there was actually a Jehovah or Allah who condoned slavery, and who murdered millions of people and incited the murder of many more millions, who condoned stoning of unruly children and eternal punishment for thieves and homosexuals.

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 10:16:27 PM »

It's fairly easy to disprove the existence of a god using logic. Of course, adherents will never admit this, but will always resort to special pleading.

The existence of a god would entail too many mutually contradictory things. For example, there is the familiar problem of evil, which theists attempt to sweep away, but without much success. The deity is supposed to be all-good, and is supposed to have created everything. Yet, we see that much evil exists in the world. If God created everything then He must be responsible for either creating the evil directly or creating the agent of the evil. The simplest solution: there is no god. 

For example, the Bible makes many predictions regarding God which can be easily tested. Answered prayer, for example. Jesus says, "Ask, and it will be given." Go ahead--try it. Make a prayer for something and see whether it is fulfilled. In fact, you'll find that the success rate is no greater than random chance.

God, we're informed, cannot be seen, heard, touched, or detected with any of the senses. Now, that which is not perceivable by the senses is the very definition of non-sensical. Saying that something is not in any manner detectable is the same thing as saying that something does not exist.

The Bible itself is so filled with easily verified falsehoods and contradictions that it is impossible for any rational person to take it seriously. (I won't include the contradictions here because vast lists of them are easily found all over the net.) From the Bible we find that the earth is flat, that the sun orbits the earth, that the universe is six thousand years old. The amount of cognitive dissidence needed to accept such things is staggering!
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 09:57:00 AM »

in the end, it is actually quite logical to conclude that some type of higher power exists, given the totally bizarre nature of this existence, and how the totality of this existence somehow manages itself in a way that a human can identify with.

You mean, God is a jokester, who sets up a bizarre world?  :shock:

But no--the world is not set up in such a manner as to make it easily comprehended. The universe does not give a shit whether humans understand it or not. It just IS.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 10:59:17 AM »

in the end, it is actually quite logical to conclude that some type of higher power exists, given the totally bizarre nature of this existence, and how the totality of this existence somehow manages itself in a way that a human can identify with.

You mean, God is a jokester, who sets up a bizarre world?  :shock:

But no--the world is not set up in such a manner as to make it easily comprehended. The universe does not give a shit whether humans understand it or not. It just IS.

the only thing that makes it bizarre are humans...

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fatcat

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 11:04:02 AM »

But no--the world is not set up in such a manner as to make it easily comprehended. The universe does not give a shit whether humans understand it or not. It just IS.

Yeah, anyone who thinks the universe was created so that humans could understand it need to take a look at some of the quantum physics, then curl up into a ball and cry when you realize how fucking incomprehensible and counter intuitive the universe is compared to the way humans perceive it.

-"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." Richard Feynman

Also I'd say the problem of evil isn't an effective argument. It doesn't address the core issue of lack of evidence for gods, and it is still equally likely for there to be any type of god, heavily conflicted or not. Sure the problem of evil means that if there is a god he's certainly a dick, but its certainly not a proof against god.

Since the idea of god is completely arbitrary and not based on observation or reality, but mainly solipsism, then the idea that god must somehow be rational or sane is also arbitrary, also, it excludes other bullshit arguments like there are 2 gods, one good and one evil, and they are both perfectly balanced. Whenever anything good happens its good god, whenever something bad happens its evil god etc.

One of the best attacks is of how god explanations effectively have 0 explanatory power.

How did god make matter? He just did.
How did god make life? He just did.
How did god make space-time? He just did.
Where's heaven? Some place we can't get to or measure in any way.
Where's hell? Some place we can't get to or measure in any way.
Where's/what's a soul? Something we can't get to or measure in any way.
Where's god? Some place we can't get to or measure in any way.

this is not explaining anything, its just arbitrary bullshit designed to make humans feel better about the lack of understanding of the universe and a fear of death.

Even if there was a god who did all these things, even though theres no evidence for it, then we would still have to use the scientific method to understand how it happened, so religion is completely useless in terms of explaining the universe.

Of course, the ultimate perversion of this completely arbitrary non answer, is that its used as a more "reasonable" alternative to gaps in our knowledge.

Since "science" can't explain X, god must be responsible for X. How do you know it must be god? Well do you have an explanation? Then god must have done it. How did god do it? I don't know, he just did.

So even though religions apparently have detailed information on the order in which god made shit, there is absolutely 0 explanation in how it happened, and therefore as a theory of how existence came into being, is completely useless.

Even if one of the "god" theories was actually correct (which would only be correct through sheer luck of a random guess),theres absolutely no concrete evidence in any god ever existing, and nothing to be learned from religion bar vague rhetoric and toddler level morality (i.e. its wrong to hurt people, except if its stoning unruly children or god letting thieves and homosexuals be tortured in hell forever).
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NHArticleTen

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 11:27:19 AM »


why does one human being resist the gunpoint religion of another human being...

hmmm....

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