How can a sane person initiate force and tell a kid to stop doing something?
Do time outs and/or taking a child's property away count as the initiation of force?
Dude enough with the childs property bullshit.
Does your child own his room? Can he rent it out to backpackers if he wants? Can he sell his room when he leaves home?
You don't gift kids part of your own house, and most reasonable parents dont unconditionally gift most other things, its an implicit assumption that they're things parents have bought and are allowing kids to use. If you insist on being a pedant about it, heres what you do. Don't give your kids anything, lend them things, that way it isn't their property your confiscating, its yours.
Except most parents don't find the need to be so explicitly crass, its more of, "here, this is yours (but if you fuck around I might take it off you/deprive your access to it)".
Do you let your kids watch as much TV as they want no questions asked? Is it your TV or the kids TV?
Time outs don't count as initiation of force if they're based on your property