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Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« on: September 01, 2009, 10:27:39 PM »

If you really think that people don't smoke tobacco for the taste of it, you've never had good tobacco. A good cigar or pipe tobacco has a deep and complex flavor, and the types of flavors vary from one to another. Cigars are described with specific terms like spicy, creamy, beefy, woody, fruity, grassy, and with "notes" of distinct flavors like chocolate or coffee. "Muddy" and/or "sour" are how bad cigars are usually described.

"Muddy" tobacco is usually cheap tobacco; grown in poor soil, uncured and unaged. It is used in cigarettes, which are not smoked for the tobacco, but as a nicotine delivery medium. Since it lacks the complex flavors derived from good soil and the aging process, tar is added to give it sweetness and smoothness, and dangerous chemical preservatives replace the curing process. And nicotine is added, making it far more addictive than natural tobacco, which has about 20% the nicotine.

It is also worth noting that high-quality tobacco is not generally inhaled; the tar added to the cheap stuff aids in inhalation. And inhalation also disturbs the flavor, as the exhaled smoke tastes, frankly, of lung; and lingers in the mouth.

If your tobacco is "muddy", it is either bad tobacco, or you smoke too much to discern flavors. I don't think the latter is the case, since you say you usually only smoke once per day. If you decide to smoke again, I'd suggest not smoking something you can buy in a supermarket. Like cigarettes, cheap cigars are just a drug delivery system. In the meantime, don't suggest that those of us who enjoy fine tobacco smoke bad-tasting weeds in order to get a buzz. It's just not true. I'm no more addicted to tobacco than I am to steak. I enjoy both, but neither are a staple of my lifestyle.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 10:54:07 PM »

I like the flavor of good vaporized weed. I tend to like the fruity flavor weed more. Smoke taste like....smoke.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 11:23:02 PM »

No--mud tastes like mud. Tabacco tastes like shit.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 11:24:43 PM »

I actually did have a cigar that tasted like shit once. Havanna Honeys, I think they were called. At least, they tasted like shit smells. But in general, tobacco tastes like tobacco. If it tasted like shit, people would eat shit instead of smoking tobacco.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 05:24:25 PM »

I agree, fine tobacco does not taste like what I remember mud tasting like.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 06:00:48 PM »

This type tatses good.. the Samson is "spicier".




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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 06:42:03 PM »

This type tatses good.. the Samson is "spicier".




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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 07:39:28 PM »

I like snus. I import it from abroad. I can sit at work all day and use it, with no spitting required. No taxes to the USSA. Discrete enough for use anywhere without it causing me to have to administer an etiquette lesson to some fat chick telling me that I'm unhealthy.

Yes, this has happened. I was a wing place, in the bar, and a fat chick proceeds to tell me I shouldn't be smoking. I told her she should pass on the cheese fries. She nearly cried. Most excellent. :P

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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 07:44:57 PM »

I like snus. I import it from abroad. I can sit at work all day and use it, with no spitting required. No taxes to the USSA. Discrete enough for use anywhere without it causing me to have to administer an etiquette lesson to some fat chick telling me that I'm unhealthy.

Yes, this has happened. I was a wing place, in the bar, and a fat chick proceeds to tell me I shouldn't be smoking. I told her she should pass on the cheese fries. She nearly cried. Most excellent. :P

Exactly, I think the saying goes "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 07:54:19 PM »

There are a bunch of flavored tobaccos as well. Many of which are quite nice to smell... Double apple anyone?
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 01:25:30 AM »

Buy a $50 cigar and smoke it with a side of scotch. It will not taste like "mud". It will be fantastically awesome.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 01:50:28 AM »

I like snus. I import it from abroad. I can sit at work all day and use it, with no spitting required. No taxes to the USSA. Discrete enough for use anywhere without it causing me to have to administer an etiquette lesson to some fat chick telling me that I'm unhealthy.

Yes, this has happened. I was a wing place, in the bar, and a fat chick proceeds to tell me I shouldn't be smoking. I told her she should pass on the cheese fries. She nearly cried. Most excellent. :P


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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 07:08:15 PM »

I still haven't tried Snus.. the only brand I see for sale here is Camel. Is that just as good as the imported stuff?
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 07:10:08 PM »

I still haven't tried Snus.. the only brand I see for sale here is Camel. Is that just as good as the imported stuff?
I've only tried the Camel and of the Camel I've only seen two different flavors, the Frost, and "Mild" which is actually something like apricot.  I like the frost flavor, it's almost like a breath mint that gives you a good nicotine buzz.  Not having to spit is the best part.
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Re: Mark: tobacco tastes like mud?!
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 07:58:35 PM »

I smoked a Rocky Patel Olde World Reserve today. It was delicious.
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