ALL things have a starting point, it's a logical necessity that the universe has one too. That thing which has no starting point, that's what you call God.
Can you please demonstrate this instead of just constantly asserting it?
Certainly lots of things have starting points, but in terms of the universe having one,
It is similar to saying, everything that is alive will die from aging. While it seems logical, because there are so many examples, it is not the same thing as proving it, and in fact, there are very few life forms that can
live indefinitely without aging.
One cannot use trends as proof of fact. The idea that everything needs a cause is extremely backwards logic to prove there was a first cause, because essentially, you are saying, "okay, there must be a first cause, and that thing is really special and doesn't need a cause, unlike everything else in the universe".
Of course, there are many different possibilities, none of which have yet been proven. There could be one start point, the universe could be
infinite regression, there could be an explanation no one has even thought of. Certainly there are very few humans who are even close to understanding the operation of the universe on a quantum scale.
We know gravity effects time, so there is no reason to assume that time works the same.
As I have said before, in order to establish whether the universe has a starting point, it is first necessary to find this starting point.
Are you asserting that the big bang is the start of the universe? If so where did all the energy come from that started it?
Are you asserting there is another point that must have been the start of the universe? If so what is it and what proof is there of it.
If you're going to claim that God made all the energy, but yet you have no evidence of what this god is or how it operates, merely that it must be what started the universe, then why not just say the universe started itself? It makes no more sense to inject the idea of a creator, when you have absolutely no evidence of one, but are merely going to use the fact that you think everything needs a cause, so god must be the cause.
If god was always there, and didn't need a creator, why not just say the universe was always there, and didn't need a creator, and one day it just sprang into life.
If its possible for there to be an eternal god that didn't need a cause, why isn't it possible for there to be an eternal universe that didn't need a cause?
But it does not matter what is possible, it matters what is, and what can be proven to be.
Thinking the universe started itself is just as baseless as thinking a creator started it, when there is no evidence of either, except the claim of a creator requires even more proof, because we know there is a universe, yet there is no evidence of a creator, so the idea of the universe starting, while just as unproven, would require one less step of explanation.
In order to prove that the universe was created by a creator, not only would it be necessary to prove that the universe did have a start point, but it would be necessary to prove that this start point was a creator or form of creation, rather than some other cause.