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Title: I want an even more meta show.
Post by: sandm000 on April 08, 2010, 10:18:14 AM

Can someone get an audio clip from last nights show and force the hosts to listen to themselves while they are being forced to listen to themselves?
That would be AWESOME!

Title: Re: I want an even more meta show.
Post by: Alex Libman on May 28, 2010, 11:31:26 AM

You mean a "self-referential loop", not "meta".  Meta is an unjoinable meta-concept: 1 meta plus 1 meta equals... 1 meta.

Title: Re: I want an even more meta show.
Post by: sillyperson on May 28, 2010, 02:06:50 PM

(http://wakdjunkaga.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/godel-escher-bach-geb.jpg)


You'll get it if you've read the book

Title: Re: I want an even more meta show.
Post by: sandm000 on May 28, 2010, 02:41:06 PM

Quote from: Alex  Libman on May 28, 2010, 11:31:26 AM

You mean a "self-referential loop", not "meta".  Meta is an unjoinable meta-concept: 1 meta plus 1 meta equals... 1 meta.

No, I meant meta as self-referential, see Dennis' image above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta#Quine_and_Hofstadter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta#Quine_and_Hofstadter)