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Tom Foppiano

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Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« on: May 15, 2011, 08:48:08 PM »

Good day Ian. I'll try to make this short and sweet....

Telling people that cannabis is "good" or "ok" or whatever because people have cannabinoid receptors in their brain is probably not a good argument. I was a paramedic a few years ago and I know that there are opiate receptors in our brains and spinal cords as well. The reason why heroine feels so damn good to users is because of those opiate receptors. Basically, cannabis isn't special in this regard.

So...to be consistent you would have to support using heroine. I completely agree with your positions on cannabis usage and drug "legalization" or "decriminalization" or whatever you want to call it. I just wouldn't use the receptor argument anymore because I know that heroine, morphine, oxycontin, ect. attaches to opiate receptors. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all drugs have some type of receptor in the brain.

To learn more just google "opiate receptor" and have a nice day. Thanks
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 12:15:08 AM »

Don't see a conflict.  Many here (including Ian) are for the decriminalization of ALL drugs.  They (we) do in fact support one having the ability to CHOOSE to ingest any drug including Heroin.  That does not mean that any of us will go out and shoot Heroin if it were to be decriminalized.

However we do realize there are consequences if drugs are not used responsibly.  We also do not support the harming of others to attain said drugs.
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 12:25:09 AM »

The point of using the "cannaboid receptors" argument is to draw in the religious types. You know, the gullible kind who think we were intelligently designed by a deity. They say that if god put it there he must want us to use it, roughly.
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 03:12:44 AM »

True but I was responding to the "To be consistent if you support Pot you must support Heroin" statement.  I was simply stating that on that Ian is consistent.  As are many on this BBS.
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 06:14:31 AM »

True but I was responding to the "To be consistent if you support Pot you must support Heroin" statement.  I was simply stating that on that Ian is consistent.  As are many on this BBS.
false. I'd say the vast majority of people on this forum do not support heroin use.  Even if they think it should be legal
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »

OK let me clarify.  Many here support the decriminalization of all drugs including Pot and Heroin.  Therein lies the consistency.  I have already stated I/We don't expect people to go start shooting Heroin just because it was decriminalized (if it were to be).
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 01:03:18 PM »

The receptors are actually meant to support the idea that marijuana use is actually healthy, which is likely true whether the receptors are a good example or not.  Heroin use likely is not healthy even if it ought to be legal.

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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 01:19:37 PM »

folks have been smoking opium for thousands of years.  Its all about moderation..
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 04:38:55 PM »

Ok. Perhaps I should clarify.....

I think that all drugs should be legal and that smoking pot is not unhealthy. I do not, however, recommend the use of all drugs.

Ian has specifically used the cannabinoid receptor argument to persuade persons that pot is not unnatural or unhealthy. His argument IS inconsistent if he does not favor using heroine, as it too binds to specific receptors in the brain.

I am not trying to pick on Ian. I just wanted him to know about other receptors so that he can refine his argument.
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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 06:23:48 PM »

I think that all drugs should be legal and that smoking pot is not unhealthy. I do not, however, recommend the use of all drugs.

Yes, I understood and was agreeing with you.

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Re: Hey Ian....about those cannabinoid receptors
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 08:04:10 PM »

using all the drugs together balances out the negative aspects of each one on its own, kinda like mixed breed dogs are better than pure bred.

a little pot n' some coke n' some heroin n' some acid, then a big swig of some cheap Canadian Mist whiskey will do a growing body good, if taken all at the same time.
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