Help Get Jason Sorens on Fox News (act.FreeTalkLive.com)

[Ghost of Alex Libman]

Strange, that shortcut subdomain wasn't mentioned on this BBS in years (Feb 2006, Jan 2007, March 2007) --

act.FreeTalkLive.com

It currently points at a poll to get Jason Sorens on Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano (Fox News).  Sounds like an awesome FSP recruitment opportunity, I hope y'all vote. 

Or at least it may help get his Wikipedia article restored. 

[blackie]

Jason Sorens is a lying douche bag.

[Ghost of Alex Libman]

How so?

[rabidfurby]

Yeah, we need more publicity from libertarian-whenever-the-Democrats-are-in-charge Republicans. That'll help.

[Ghost of Alex Libman]

How could it possibly not?

[sillyperson]

According to the Freedomwatch web site, Jason Sorens is scheduled for 4/29 show

 

[JWI]

How about a "Help Jason Sorens move to New Hampshire" vote?

[Ghost of Alex Libman]

According to the Freedomwatch web site, Jason Sorens is scheduled for 4/29 show

Good news, but let's keep voting lest they change their mind, or are yet to decide how much time to allocate for him, how many times to repeat the show, etc.

How about a "Help Jason Sorens move to New Hampshire" vote?

He's doing stuff, and he has a better excuse to be elsewhere than most people.  (Except me.  My excuses are bulletproof.  Don't you dare doubt them!  Ever!) 

[JWI]

According to the Freedomwatch web site, Jason Sorens is scheduled for 4/29 show

Good news, but let's keep voting lest they change their mind, or are yet to decide how much time to allocate for him, how many times to repeat the show, etc.

How about a "Help Jason Sorens move to New Hampshire" vote?

He's doing stuff, and he has a better excuse to be elsewhere than most people.  (Except me.  My excuses are bulletproof.  Don't you dare doubt them!  Ever!) 

And that excuse is...?  The only one I heard is because of his job.  Same as a lot of people.  Some have moved anyway, others have not.

[blackie]

And that excuse is...?  The only one I heard is because of his job.

A tenure track job at a state school.

How so?

Just because a few leaders dropped the ball doesn't mean everyone is the same way

A few? Ha! Even Sorens was caught doing naughty things.

you mean stuff like this:

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Quote from: JasonPSorens on Today at 09:14:20am
It certainly could be intentional sabotage.  Jay D*********, Zack/Larry P*******' best bud, has been charged with defrauding people on ebay on two separate occasions, getting a warning the first time and pleading guilty the second time.  I posted a link to the story on the WYFWP Yahoo group, where this discussion was originally going on.  Before this op-ed came out, I confronted Jay and Zack and have told them that I personally will work to shun, ostracize, and boycott them at every opportunity if they ever dare to move to NH.  The leadership has presented a coordinated response, showing that these two or three misfits are overwhelmingly rejected by other Free Staters and in no way represent us.  I don't even think they will be moving to NH.  Certainly not with our blessing.
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You fail to mention, however, that you were at first trying to conceal your identity by posting to the WYFWP Yahoo! Group by using the profile "zyzyvyx" at "iron_maiden@ziplip.com". A name that you had posted under in the middle of 2003 in the WYFWP in order to try and infiltrate and disorganize the Wyoming organization. I will quote your messages in entirety. They can still be viewed:

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"From:  "iron_maiden@z..." <iron_maiden@z...>
Date:  Thu Jun 26, 2003  5:25 pm
Subject:  Re: [wyfsp] The good, the bad and the ugly


> -----Original Message-----

> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:32:14 -0600
> From: Charles Curley <charlescurley@c...>
> To: wyfsp@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [wyfsp] The good, the bad and the ugly

> I've been in Wyoming for ten years and still don't know who Alex Jones
> is.


A "patriot" looney. The one thing that worries about Wyoming - and Idaho too -
is the prevalence of "sovereign citizen" nutjobs, tax evaders, anti-Semites, and
other wack jobs. A million to one this Bruce Peret fellow reads "American Free
Press," an anti-Semitic periodical popular in the "patriot" movement. An
isolationist mentality prevails in certain parts of the West. The East and
Midwest seem more rational, although you get loons everywhere."
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""From:  "iron_maiden@z..." <iron_maiden@z...>
Date:  Tue Jul 1, 2003  5:48 pm
Subject:  exaggerating

I was exaggerating a little bit when I said there were a lot of "irrational"
people out West. I'm a strong supporter of the West because of its identity (I
wrote a message about this on the other forum). But people like Lanny and Bruce
are creepy."
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Now isn't it disheartening to find out that the leader of your organization Mr. Jason Sorens, who accuses other of doing so, has been caught trying to undermine someone else's effort?. How lame. I bet heÂ’s real pissed that he forgot to post by e-mail instead of the website, exposing his true identity.

If anyone doubts this, look at the full headers of messages posted yesterday on the Yahoo! group by "zyzyvyx" and one followed by "Jason P. Sorens". Notice how the IP addresses match.



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"From iron_maiden@z... Thu Jun 17 07:18:23 2004
Return-Path: <iron_maiden@z...>
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X-Apparently-To: wyfwp@yahoogroups.com
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From: "zyzyvyx" <iron_maiden@z...>
X-Originating-IP: 130.132.85.235
Subject: Re: (~) Libertarians target Grafton
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=150422068
X-Yahoo-Profile: zyzyvyx

Just another thought -- I wonder whether because of their criminal
pasts, Larry, Jay, and Chuck all cut deals with the USA government to
bring down the FSP and FWP? What say ye?"




"From jason.sorens@y... Thu Jun 17 09:07:37 2004
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From: "Jason P Sorens" <jason.sorens@y...>
X-Originating-IP: 130.132.85.235
Subject: Re: Jason Sorens LIBELS Zack Bass - was: (~) Libertarians target Grafton
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6444853
X-Yahoo-Profile: jason_sorens

--- In wyfwp@yahoogroups.com, "Zack Bass" <Ross@P...> wrote:
>
> --- In wyfwp@yahoogroups.com, "Jason P Sorens" <jason.sorens@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > ... it's factually correct. Zack's been convicted of assaulting
> > a police officer..... No one disputes that.
> >
>
> I dispute that, you slimy motherfucker. I state categorically, and
> so NOTIFY you, that I have never in my life been convicted of
> assaulting a police officer. What's more, I have never assaulted a
> police officer at all, ever in my life. Who feeds you this shit?
>
> Time for a Public Retraction.

"MaryQueenofScots" posted your criminal record on the FSP web forum,
remember? I think it was wrong of her to do that, but when she did
it, you didn't dispute the facts therein.

I previously thought you were well-intentioned but seriously
misguided, but the more I find out about the people you hang out
with, the more it seems that you're involved in a criminal cabal.
And if you think I'm hard on you, just imagine what the people in NH
think of you right now."
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Why is your founder trying trying to hide his identity? Why did he try to subvert another organizations efforts? What are his motives?

Jason, would you care to explain?

And here is the "coordinated response".

This is the email that was sent to Zack Bass three days before the June 19th meeting. At the June 19th Grafton meeting, Amanda Phillips said that the FSP leadership had told Zack not to come to NH, and he was no longer part of the project. According to Zack, this email was the only communication he got telling him he should not come to NH, and he was never informed by the FSP that he was kicked out.

Subject: DO NOT COME TO NH - EVER
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:45:13 -0400

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Mr. Xxxxx Xxxxxxxxx,

THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. WITH "FRIENDS" LIKE YOU, WE DON'T NEED ANY ENEMIES.

YOU HAVE POISONED THE WELL IN GRAFTON. THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR "HELP."

THE PEOPLE OF GRAFTON ARE ARMED, DANGEROUS, AND EXTREMELY PISSED AT YOU. EXCEPT FOR THIS MESSAGE, WE WILL CERTAINLY NOT PROTECT YOU.

IN FACT, WE WILL HELP THEM HANG YOU OUT TO DRY IN ANY LEGAL WAY POSSIBLE.

YOU ARE HEREBY WARNED. DO NOT COME TO NEW HAMPSHIRE EVER AGAIN.

THERE IS NO WARM, FUZZY FREEDOM COMMUNITY HERE FOR YOU. FOR YOU THERE IS ONLY AN EXTREMELY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT OF YOUR OWN MAKING. STAY IN FLORIDA.

For Responsible Liberty,

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John Barnes, J. D.
Vice Chair, 2d District, L P N H
Chair, Welcome to the Granite State Committee
.
Voice or Fax:
Inside USA: 1-888-221-8628 (Toll-free)
Outside USA: 1-312-893-0715 (Not toll-free)
.
E-mail: jbarnes@lpnh.org

[JWI]

And that excuse is...?  The only one I heard is because of his job.

A tenure track job at a state school.

So it is about his job.  I take he doesn't care about liberty enough to drop everything and move to NH.  What a fraud.

[blackie]

And that excuse is...?  The only one I heard is because of his job.

A tenure track job at a state school.

So it is about his job.  I take he doesn't care about liberty enough to drop everything and move to NH.  What a fraud.

He moved to NH. Check the First 1000 Pledge page.

But then he moved back to his house in NY. The FSP SOI and first 1000 pledge doesn't say how long you need to move to NH for.

[JWI]

And that excuse is...?  The only one I heard is because of his job.

A tenure track job at a state school.

So it is about his job.  I take he doesn't care about liberty enough to drop everything and move to NH.  What a fraud.

He moved to NH. Check the First 1000 Pledge page.

But then he moved back to his house in NY. The FSP SOI and first 1000 pledge doesn't say how long you need to move to NH for.

He doesn't care about liberty.  If he's not willing to drop everything and move to NH NOW, then he's a Sunshinetarian.

[blackie]

Looks like Jason thinks that calling the SPCA on an FSP member was a good idea.

http://www.nhliberty.org/forum/index.php?topic=2015.msg17298#msg17298

Good for you, Beth. You made the right call.

[JWI]