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Title: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: hellbilly on November 10, 2010, 05:33:01 PM
Female radio host cuffed to chair, ticket ripped up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvsAgpfig)

Kind of a big deal or no?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 10, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
People who are going to follow this link should know it's a video with a still picture and audio from a FreeTalkLive episode (so if you listen to the show, you've heard it.)
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: TC1968 on November 10, 2010, 07:57:40 PM
I'm a noob to FTL and found the link via Drudge, and had to get this off my chest.


I'm not surprised about anything the TSA does. Back in 2004 I was attending a small community college studying Criminal Justice when my instructor asked a couple of us to meet him at his office after class. The TSA at the time was contacting CJUS programs trying to recruit students for part time work at Sea Tac airport. My instructor wanted to pass this along to his better students as a reward for studying hard in his class (we were all A students, on the National Deans List, Phi Theta Kappa, etc etc).

Five of us went to a branch community college located in a mall and took the test, that all of us finished before the allotted time. Afterwards we went to lunch and we commented how easy the tests were - they literally were 6th grade level. Knowing we had done great on them, we went home where all of us were notified via email that we failed. When we tried to inquire what part of the test we failed, they refused to tell us. We also noticed that others there taking the test ranged from borderline stupid, to even people who could barely speak English. I wonder if they failed. :roll:

Of the group, one later became a Washington State Trooper, one became a Deputy Sheriff, two went into adult corrections, and I went into state juvenile corrections. I every case the tests (mental, physical, psych), were a 100 times more challenging than anything the TSA gave us. My instructor checked with another CJUS instructor at college in the next county, who had also sent students- they too failed with no explanation as to why. I'd also like to add that two of us had prior security/military experience. One had served in the Army and worked in corrections. In my case I had over 9 years working privately in the security field that included both industrial, and corporate contracts.
We all came to the conclusion after talking with our instructor that we more than likely scored too high on certain tests, and that TSA had determined they wanted employees  who were average to below average in IQ, and psychologically had authoritarian complexes. So as some have said the "dumb kid who got slapped around in school" is a spot on observation of most TSA employees.

Anyway that's my opinion why the TSA is screwed up, and I don't think its going to get any better.

PS great forum, I look forward to talking with you all.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: sillyperson on November 10, 2010, 09:00:44 PM
Kudos to GeorgeDonnelly for putting the FTL URL on the video
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: slayerboy on November 10, 2010, 11:31:20 PM
This is huge IMHO.  Say what you will about Drudge (CIA, FBI, etc), he's big. This is the kind of stuff that Alex Jones usually outs, and instead FTL wins this time!

I watched the video 3 or 4 hours ago and it was at 22k or so views.  Now it's at 111k views.  Insane.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Kheris on November 11, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
It would help if the videos at wewontfly backed her up.  They don't.  She wasn't there for an hour, she wasn't handcuffed to the chair, people were going through the scanners the entire time she was sitting in the separate area, a TSA agent gave her a paper towel to wipe her eyes, and I didn't see a dozen security people of various stripes escorting her out.  I don't know exactly what happened here, but her memory is faulty on at least some of this event.  Since there is no audio on the videos we can't hear anything that was said to her, and it is clear there was a conversation but it didn't look like anyone was shouting.  So I am sorry that she wound up in some drama, but I am not convinced that she was mistreated throughout the entire time.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: blackie on November 11, 2010, 02:52:59 PM
It would help if the videos at wewontfly backed her up.  They don't.  
link please

http://consumerist.com/2010/11/meg-mclain-singled-out-by-the-tsa-cuffed-to-a-chair-her-ticket-ripped-up.html

http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/response-to-female-radio-host-cuffed-to.html
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: alaric89 on November 11, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
Was a much worse image in my mind when I heard her call into FTL than what was on that security footage. I hate the TSA, but we can't base our argument about how much they suck on exaggeration's and horror stories.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 11, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
It would help if the videos at wewontfly backed her up.  They don't.  She wasn't there for an hour, she wasn't handcuffed to the chair, people were going through the scanners the entire time she was sitting in the separate area, a TSA agent gave her a paper towel to wipe her eyes, and I didn't see a dozen security people of various stripes escorting her out.  I don't know exactly what happened here, but her memory is faulty on at least some of this event.  Since there is no audio on the videos we can't hear anything that was said to her, and it is clear there was a conversation but it didn't look like anyone was shouting.  So I am sorry that she wound up in some drama, but I am not convinced that she was mistreated throughout the entire time.

We don't see her walk in and out in one video.  There are also no timestamps.  We really don't know what happened in between videos.  All you can really say is that the two videos don't really show anything interesting, and the second showed a WHOLE LOT of nothing.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: anarchir on November 11, 2010, 04:25:30 PM
Yes clearly the there should be another video to bridge the gap between the two. Neither really add or subtract much to the story.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: hellbilly on November 13, 2010, 08:39:17 PM
So what's the scoop?

Meg seems like a legit enough person and the released videos from the TSA seem a little sketchy. At the same time though, there are some points in the story that don't add up and when those points are explained away as being "fuzzy recollections due to stress" it brings more than a bit of doubt.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Amazing Richard on November 13, 2010, 10:04:56 PM
Who's "Meg"????

OK....I haven't listened to the show in ages, but I'm guessing this "Meg" is taking over for Julia as co-host. Is this "Meg" ....Ian's new girlfriend? Is she hot?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: hellbilly on November 13, 2010, 10:38:59 PM
She is hot actually.

As for Ian's new squeeze... my money is on the Christian gal who co-hosts these days.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: anarchir on November 14, 2010, 03:58:05 PM
Who's "Meg"????

OK....I haven't listened to the show in ages, but I'm guessing this "Meg" is taking over for Julia as co-host. Is this "Meg" ....Ian's new girlfriend? Is she hot?

Smeg. Sams old woman?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: blackie on November 15, 2010, 12:28:31 AM
Does Meg have lazy eye?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: anarchir on November 15, 2010, 09:54:55 PM
No clue but this week TSA (for or against) news is all over the place. Mainstream tv news, local newspapers, radio shows, facebook,
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: slayerboy on November 18, 2010, 12:17:14 AM
No clue but this week TSA (for or against) news is all over the place. Mainstream tv news, local newspapers, radio shows, facebook,

Yeah I'm kinda getting sick of it too.  I've never seen a topic this beat to death with exception to the old religion and politics crap.  I guess it's a good thing if it makes people aware, but dear god people, us crazies over here have been talking about the TSA for years now?  And just NOW you're getting the gist of what they're up to?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 18, 2010, 03:21:38 AM
Someone made a good, basic point on one of the Yahoo message boards...that it's shocking that it took that machine and the groping to get people upset.  They should have been upset from the very beginning of the TSA, when they stole our 4th Amendment rights.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Terror Australis on November 18, 2010, 06:41:01 AM
It smells like a con job to me. Its a plot to get the government to spend billions on "high speed rail" projects so that freight can be moved across the country and the public pays for the infrastructure. Warren Buffet has been heavily investing in rail stocks http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/BuffettOnRightTrackBuyingRailStocks.aspx (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/BuffettOnRightTrackBuyingRailStocks.aspx) so if they can get people annoyed at air travel they will demand high speed rail. This TSA crap is all a public relations stunt by one of the biggest pr douchebags hill and knowlton http://www.hillandknowlton.com/ (http://www.hillandknowlton.com/)

Basically one of the richest men in  the world is getting the taxpayer to pay for his future rail freight empire. Think I am wrong?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: subsidizingfailure on November 18, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
She was on Nightline last night!

They announced her has "Meg, a radio show host"...they just said radio show, I was kinda bummed they didn't say free talk live
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: sillyperson on November 18, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
She was on Nightline last night!
HOLY SHIT!!!
Awesome.
Did she at least mention the Free State Project or FTL?
Is there a youtube or anything like that?
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Ecolitan on November 18, 2010, 07:18:18 PM
Just a few seconds.  

Go here (http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/)

Click Extreme Airport Security

Whole episode here (http://www.hulu.com/watch/194135/abc-nightline-wed-nov-17-2010)
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: sillyperson on November 19, 2010, 12:39:15 PM
Awesome. Thank you, Ecolitan
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 19, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
Loved the report.  The implication seemed to be that those of us who value our privacy are outnumbered, and we're the troublemakers.  Forget pluralism.  Forget rights.  They also didn't point out that this is something that's been simmering since they first violated our rights by putting federal toads in charge of security.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Peppermint Pig on December 12, 2010, 10:48:18 AM
There's been a trend of mainstream media figures either not mentioning the name of the show, or mocking/lying about it. What are they so worried about??
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: davann on December 12, 2010, 10:24:24 PM
Okay, here is the deal on the TSA prono scanners. They will be short lived. The reason? By law each place of work must provide a non hostile work enviroment. It is only a short matter of time before an employee(s) sues and wins in court over sexual harrasment done by the TSA while on a business trip.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: blackie on February 28, 2011, 10:40:10 AM
It would help if the videos at wewontfly backed her up.  They don't.  She wasn't there for an hour, she wasn't handcuffed to the chair, people were going through the scanners the entire time she was sitting in the separate area, a TSA agent gave her a paper towel to wipe her eyes, and I didn't see a dozen security people of various stripes escorting her out.  I don't know exactly what happened here, but her memory is faulty on at least some of this event.  Since there is no audio on the videos we can't hear anything that was said to her, and it is clear there was a conversation but it didn't look like anyone was shouting.  So I am sorry that she wound up in some drama, but I am not convinced that she was mistreated throughout the entire time.

We don't see her walk in and out in one video.  There are also no timestamps.  We really don't know what happened in between videos.  All you can really say is that the two videos don't really show anything interesting, and the second showed a WHOLE LOT of nothing.
There are now videos with timestamps. It looks like the two videos show the entire indecent. There is no gap in the video as claimed by many of Smeg's supporters. The videos still show a whole lot of nothing, and definitely not what Smeg described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jzyp-1fhzE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YUSPmveMj0
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on February 28, 2011, 01:51:15 PM
An...interesting...development.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: hellbilly on February 28, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
First vid - she's just sitting in a chair.
Second - can't see much of anything.. but at about 15 minutes, I skimmed through. Not even sure what I was supposed to see in that one.

I didn't see any handcuffs. Which woulda been hot.
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: Fred on February 28, 2011, 04:46:24 PM
let's believe her - how could you -imagine- handcuffs - to a friggin chair
Title: Re: FTL's Meg linked on Drudge Report
Post by: alaric89 on April 24, 2011, 03:34:59 PM
http://articles.philly.com/2011-04-23/news/29466700_1_tsa-spokeswoman-ann-davis-child-pornography-federal-agents (http://articles.philly.com/2011-04-23/news/29466700_1_tsa-spokeswoman-ann-davis-child-pornography-federal-agents)
Pedo's are evidently finding a calling in the TSA.