Fashion and Ian

[libertylover]

I think if your selling something that requires interacting with the public, dress is absolutely important.

Me? I just buy stuff in person, then sell it over the internet. So I wear cotton t-shirts and shorts. I don't have to look presentable for anyone.

Well, that's better than your avatar...

That is BJ it is just what he likes to wear when he has to go to the john.

[Amazing Richard]

Since Ian and mark seem very into marketing and selling, I'm surprized that Ian has not forced himself to take on an "image" for maketing sake.

Are people suggesting that Ian should wear a suit? That doesn't sound like a good idea...cuz Mark is already the Mr. Slick dresser guy. Ian needs to be different. It's like those boy bands....you gotta have a bad boy, the guy next door, the cute boyish type, the masculine type, and of course ...the closeted gay guy type.

Having 2 slick dressers is a bad move, cuz that will give the impression that Ian and Mark are gay lovers. Ian should transform his self into the "cool" guy. He should wear sunglasses while doing the show, and maybe heavy metal t-shirts under a trench-coat, and also wear some bad ass combat boots. The ANCAPs will think that Ian is a cool dude, which is better for business....instead of his current image of The Dorky Nerd.

Since the show uses a webcam, it's just dumb for Ian not to take personal image into consideration...but Ian seems like a very stubborn guy, and he prolly doesn't want to listen, cuz he doesn't like anybody telling him what to do.

[LTKoblinsky]

Ian should transform his self into the "cool" guy. He should wear sunglasses while doing the show, and maybe heavy metal t-shirts under a trench-coat, and also wear some bad ass combat boots.

does not compute....

[Davy]

Okay, I have just watched Ian's recent day in court videos and I figured I'd make a post in this thread.

For some context: I never wear suits or ties in day to day life. I like to dress reasonably but am pretty lazy. I think everybody has the right to be as slobbish as they want, and nobody should change "who they are" because of societal norms.

That said, if you keep dressing in shorts and tshirts at occasions like this the videos will not be nearly as powerful to watch for people who are on the fence about the movement. By dressing this way you make it SO EASY for people who are undecided to dismiss you as a kook or stoner. This isn't what I believe, but it's just a fact of reality.

I'm not even saying you should wear a suit and tie, but how about some dark jeans and a shirt at least?

It doesn't matter if Burke and his thugs deliver the exact same verdict, what matters is how bad THEY look to outsiders who see the video. And trust me, making these changes will change people's perceptions.

My $0.02

[libertylover]

Davy I agree.  It wouldn't kill people to at least dress half way decent and perceptions are important.  If you have dirty greasy hair and ripped up cloths people are going to have a negative impression no mater where you are.   

Some places a tee and shorts are expected others places they are not.  In a court setting the tee and shorts wearer is seen as being immature and disrespectful.  A dress code for a radio show is silly but sometimes and in some places presentation and dress are important.   Nixon famously looked idiotic for wearing a suit on the beach.  He wasn't dressed for the venue and it made an unfavorable impression.


http://www.wwd.com/eyescoop/a-dog-day-for-obama-2106758/  Story about how disconnected Nixon seemed in the picture from real people.

[FTL_Ian]

I regularly wear my pjs in the studio.   

[LTKoblinsky]

During the show? I mean watching porn on cam in your pj's after hours is one thing. Not even getting dressed for what you do for a living is another. Though, I'm not one to judge on this matter; I wear sweater vests, slacks, and driver caps whenever possible. It's not for everyone, I admit, but your dress conveys a message, and few outside of the boxers-as-shorts crowd from the 90s see PJ's as a positive one. Jeans and a T-shirt can go a long way towards looking nice.

Full disclosure: I typed this while sitting in my underwear. Also, I haven't seen what Ian has been wearing these last few weeks.

[sillyperson]

Ian also blows his load in his dinnerware.

What's really funny is that people who are not long-time listeners to the show, will not realize that this is not potty humor, but rather that it is merely a statement of well-documented fact.

[anarchir]

Ian also blows his load in his dinnerware.

What's really funny is that people who are not long-time listeners to the show, will not realize that this is not potty humor, but rather that it is merely a statement of well-documented fact.

Lol.

[dalebert]

Ian also blows his load in his dinnerware.

http://www.cookingwithcum.com/

[Bradley]

How can I frame this so that it will get through to you Ian?

I've been an avid listener of FTL and consider both Mark and Ian as role models, but up until recently I hadn't seen any of them on video, so I looked up a video of Ian on youtube and when I saw the way he dressed I was like "ooh....". I was disappointed.

Ian you have a powerful personality and an awesome intellect! It would be the last piece of the puzzle if you brushed up on fashion a bit!

I used to not care how I dressed at all. I was thinking along the lines of "I'm not going to play into that stupid game, everyone should just stop wasting money on stupid things like clothes" and "It's good to not care about what other people think of you, so I'll just not care about fashion to show that I don't care about what people are thinking about me".

However the past year I have  made an effort to improve my fashion. I've put together a style and started paying attention to what I wear. And the difference is HUGE in interactions. People react to you differently unconsciously, and it actually changes you. 

Fashion can be understood within the context of biological signals,  it's PROGRAMMED into our genes. Just as female mallards
are attracted to certain colors of feathers on males, people are attracted to certain types of
clothing on other people.

Charles Darwin was the first to
attempt to construct a theory of why
animals have such extravagant
signals and physical ornamentation.
"The sexual struggle is of two kinds:
in the one it is between the
individuals of the same sex, generally
the males, in order to drive away or
kill their rivals, the females
remaining passive; while in the
other, the struggle is likewise
between the individuals of the same
sex, in order to excite or charm those
of the opposite sex, generally the
females, which no longer remain passive, but select the more agreeable partners."
-Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

Having a good style shows that you have the time, energy and money to put into appearances, and that's attractive to all people. Yes fashion is magnified by societal norms and media like many other phenomenons, but it does have it's root in human nature. We are animals just like every other animal on this planet, and the peacook is a perfect example of the importance of fashion.

You're shooting yourself in the foot if you are not putting an effort into creating a good style for you, which after all is relatively easy compared to other areas of improving oneself.

If you're one of the millions of guys out there who's been saying your whole life:“Nah, I'm
not into clothes. I just wear what feels comfortable,” you are missing out on one of the
simplest ways to influence people before you even open your mouth. Once you understand some basic concepts to discover
and perfect your own look, fashion is going to become one of your quickest, easiest, most
reliable tools influencing people. You will start to love putting on the clothing that gets you
noticed by people.

[Fred]

now that's some shit!

[Cognitive Dissident]

Looks like the human race needs its genes reprogrammed.

[hellbilly]

This guy means business! Side-parting, power-tie wearing business!

Ian should tweak this idea and fashion it into something to boost the AMP program. Once a certain level of funds have been aquired...

"Emo Fridays"
"Halal Wednesdays" (or whatever the word for "properly dressed Islamic man" is)
"Gan'sta Sadidays"
"Redneck Mondays"

etc.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

This guy means business! Side-parting, power-tie wearing business!

Ian should tweak this idea and fashion it into something to boost the AMP program. Once a certain level of funds have been aquired...

"Emo Fridays"
"Halal Wednesdays" (or whatever the word for "properly dressed Islamic man" is)
"Gan'sta Sadidays"
"Redneck Mondays"

etc.

There's a difference between dressing for the occasion and being a fag