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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 02:58:09 AM »

Mark and Ian are apparently all distraught over the decrease in podcast downloads.  I know that my friends who have stopped listening have cited the repetitive NH-centric information as their primary reason for leaving the show behind.

No, it's only Mark who is distraught.  Life ebbs and flows.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 03:01:35 AM »

Sean and WTFK:

I'm sorry you don't like some of the things Derrick was arrested for.  He knows it was a mistake running from the police.  Just because he made a mistake doesn't mean I'm going to leave him in the cold.  He did a lot of things right, but heaven forbid you focus on that!  Read: the Dance Party and Cannabis arrests that started it all.

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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 03:05:03 AM »

I am not sure if Ian even gets it if his only response it to dispute the number of times

Seems an appropriate response to a post that begins with the following hyperbole:

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Are we seriously going to have to listen to a 5-10 minute ad from Derek J every night he's in jail?
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 03:09:51 AM »

NONE of this is a knock on Derek J's personal choices.  I think it's more unwise to give marginal choices airtime on a nationally syndicated radio show which depends on AMP dollars to promote libertarian philosophies, and presumably, activism.  Put another way, there's a concern that what seems to turn off the locals in Keene could just as easily turn off the national audience, which is presumably less freedom loving, overall, than a New Hampshire neighborhood.

Well damn, if the show is all about promoting libertarian philosophy, then perhaps we should stop taking calls from people that aren't doing that.  Oh wait, it's an open phones show, so no, we won't do that. 

Do you also get upset when we talk about non issues-oriented things or self-improvement?  How about discussing Mark's family life?

Also, if we're going to start worrying about what might turn off a "presumably less freedom loving" audience, then we better stop talking bad about the military, police, etc.  Wouldn't want anyone to tune out!   :lol:
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2012, 03:10:57 AM »

Personally I think the whole Derrick J debacle is a good example for others to learn from. Sam made himself into sort of a guru with his little adventure, and then it kind of blew up. It was kind of a disappointment to me anyway. I like the humble lessons of the Derrick J thing better and think it will have a more rewarding outcome. Shit happens. FTL has more competition, I think that is the reason for any less downloads they may have.

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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 03:11:18 AM »

P.S., when asked, not one person has ever said, "you talk to much about Keene/Shire activism" as their reason for quitting AMP.  Usually its just that they can't afford it.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 03:13:09 AM »

Personally I think the whole Derrick J debacle is a good example for others to learn from. Sam made himself into sort of a guru with his little adventure, and then it kind of blew up. It was kind of a disappointment to me anyway. I like the humble lessons of the Derrick J thing better and think it will have a more rewarding outcome. Shit happens. FTL has more competition, I think that is the reason for any less downloads they may have.

According to Feedburner, nightly downloads are about the same.  It's the general libsyn stats that were down - which probably means that more people were downloading back episodes for some reason for some time, but it has slowed, again for some unknown reason.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 07:56:32 AM »

You mean just clicking on the description and getting the show to stream in? That hasn't been working for me lately. I usually right click and download the show in a file and that still works fine. That lipsyn stat could just be a stream snafu.

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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 12:06:29 PM »

Sean and WTFK:

I'm sorry you don't like some of the things Derrick was arrested for.  He knows it was a mistake running from the police.  Just because he made a mistake doesn't mean I'm going to leave him in the cold.  He did a lot of things right, but heaven forbid you focus on that!  Read: the Dance Party and Cannabis arrests that started it all.



Read where I said his activism is up to him, and where I said it's you broadcasting it to the world I'm not crazy about.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 12:10:01 PM »

NONE of this is a knock on Derek J's personal choices.  I think it's more unwise to give marginal choices airtime on a nationally syndicated radio show which depends on AMP dollars to promote libertarian philosophies, and presumably, activism.  Put another way, there's a concern that what seems to turn off the locals in Keene could just as easily turn off the national audience, which is presumably less freedom loving, overall, than a New Hampshire neighborhood.

Well damn, if the show is all about promoting libertarian philosophy, then perhaps we should stop taking calls from people that aren't doing that.  Oh wait, it's an open phones show, so no, we won't do that. 

Do you also get upset when we talk about non issues-oriented things or self-improvement?  How about discussing Mark's family life?

Also, if we're going to start worrying about what might turn off a "presumably less freedom loving" audience, then we better stop talking bad about the military, police, etc.  Wouldn't want anyone to tune out!   :lol:

Oh, come on.  You've got a "Derek J segment" just about every day.  It's not about "taking calls" and you know it. 

Who said I get upset?  It turns out it's a piss-poor advertisement for liberty, and you're deliberately skipping over that, particularly by ignoring the difference between taking calls and having a virtual Derek J segment.

Laugh about it if you want, but AMP is down, you're getting tons of negative feedback from SANE libertarians, and you're pushing it.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2012, 12:11:51 PM »

P.S., when asked, not one person has ever said, "you talk to much about Keene/Shire activism" as their reason for quitting AMP.  Usually its just that they can't afford it.

You've completely forgotten the two-page email I sent in when I suspended my AMP.  Besides, it' snot it's not "Keene/Shire activism" as much as it is the stupid shit that constitutes the majority far too much of the Keene/Shire "activism."
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 02:54:57 PM »

Sorry you think some of our activism is "stupid shit".  Maybe you could call and tell us about your activism so we can be inspired and duplicate it.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2012, 02:56:33 PM »

Oh, come on.  You've got a "Derek J segment" just about every day.  It's not about "taking calls" and you know it.  


Maybe you don't listen to FTL or maybe you are just being hyperbolic.  I don't remember the last call from Derrick - probably been at least a week.

We'll take calls from anyone about pretty much anything.  We say that every night, multiple times.  Go ahead and give it a try.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2012, 02:57:45 PM »

Sorry you think some of our activism is "stupid shit".  Maybe you could call and tell us about your activism so we can be inspired and duplicate it.

I have, and it wasn't (pretend) beer games at city hall, sitting on  the hoods of cop cars that are soon to be in motion, goading cops into driving me off the road, or anything like that.
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Re: Enough Derek J Already!
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2012, 02:58:48 PM »

Well, what was it?
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