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Critique on call-handling
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:57:48 AM »

I've never done news gathering or managing/editing, so I have nothing to really input on this.

No shit? I don't think anybody mistakes your tweakerish rantings and attacks on random people that you cut off when they start making a point on air has anything to do with news.
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Critique on call-handling
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 11:42:42 AM »

I cut people off?  You must be listening to the wrong show.  Last night we kept the most oppositional caller for a segment and invited him for another one, but he hung up.

Next time you hear it, please call me out on-the-air, so I'll know I've been a bad boy.
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Critique on call-handling
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 12:04:27 PM »

I cut people off?  You must be listening to the wrong show.  Last night we kept the most oppositional caller for a segment and invited him for another one, but he hung up.

Next time you hear it, please call me out on-the-air, so I'll know I've been a bad boy.

Yes, you cut people off and/or talk over them unless they agree with you, just like yesterday's show with the dillrod from Keene that called in. You call your show "Free Talk", but it is nothing of the sort. When the guy wanted to talk you (or mark- don't recall exactly) announced that "this isn't a soapbox" ,talked over him, cut him off, treated him like an asshole, and then proceeded to treat the show as YOUR soapbox. I didn't agree with the caller, but you guys did chop his call up and badger him to the point that he got disgusted and hung up. Hardly "free talk". Perhaps you should rename the show "We talk, and if you say anything we don't like we talk over you, Live". I have no desire for being treated like this, so don't expect a call from me, ever. BTW, this guy seemed like he was intentionally setting himself up to be knocked down. I am suspicious that he was a plant by you guys to make yourselves look like you are "winning" (or actually having) discussions .
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 12:41:03 PM »

You're paranoid.  I've never planted a call, but you can believe whatever you want, dude.

Also, perhaps you should start a show where you just let people ramble forever without asking them questions to clarify and better understand where they are coming from.  You can call it, "You talk, and I won't".
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 01:09:04 PM »

You're paranoid.  I've never planted a call, but you can believe whatever you want, dude.

Also, perhaps you should start a show where you just let people ramble forever without asking them questions to clarify and better understand where they are coming from.  You can call it, "You talk, and I won't".

Maybe you didn't plant the call, but I have a really hard time believing that this obvious nutbag represents all of the people in Keene and NH in general that don't like the childish bullshit of the FSP/Free-Keeners. Selectively choosing only the calls of people who make the opposition to the FSP/FK "movement" look like idiots has the same effect as planting them. Choosing only morons to "debate" and then claiming victory is a pathetic fucking joke and I for one see through it.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 01:49:06 PM »

We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 02:13:57 PM »

I've made up my mind to give up on Freetalklive and the free state project.  It's all due to the lack of respect for one's "fellow man" that I have experienced from both Ian and others here on this board, most of whom have some connection to "The Free State Project".

Last night I was on hold for 1.5 hours to get on and tell about how my 16 year old son now has a driver's license but no SS number, but I guess other things were more important in Ian's eyes.  Now I'm sure that Ian will say that I call too much, but really that's a lie.  In the last 30 days, I've called the show 2 (that TWO) times (6-11 and 7-03).  This shows that "freetalk live" is not "ABOUT YOUR CALLS" as Ian claims, but rather it's about Ian's agenda.  The show used to be about "your calls", but no longer.  I have no use for another Rush Linbaugh or Alex Jones.

The people on this board are nothing but rude, crude and downright mean.  I've put up with this kind of treatment for 6 years now and figured it was just a few bad apples, but the names of the worst offenders keep coming up in discussions on "the free state" so I really don't have any reason to consider myself a participant in the free state anymore.  I even tried "NH free" forum a couple of years back because someone told me they are liberty minded people there.  Of course as soon as I posted my opinions on "Christian Anarchy" the very same trolls that are on this board started in there.  People like Lindsey, Puke, Bonerjoe... these are the ones who are the most vicious and yet these are the names that come to the forefront in discussions on NH??  I have no use for such mean people.  And listen Puke, I have a friend who was a Recon Marine in Vietnam and he's a nice guy, not a mean bastard like you.  We had a saying when I was brought up and it goes like this... "If you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"...

My wife and I were planning on a trip to NH in a couple of months to check it out since our 5 year contract is up here and we really were considering the very expensive proposition of closing our very successful medical practice here and setting up a new one in NH (Keene maybe) but that's not going to happen now.  I have no desire to spend lots of money in moving to NH just to be around mean and rude people.  In fact, the 5 days we were setting aside for NH may be used for a trip to Rome instead.  We have never been to Rome and quite frankly, the Romans will probably be nicer people.

Tolerance is the sign of people who are "liberty minded".  I may not like some of the things you do, but I tolerate all people.  I've mentioned to Ian many times in the past that if we want the liberty message to get across, we need a "big tent" philosophy.  None of us will want to "pall around" with everyone, but all of us should tolerate and be civil to each other.

So "goodbye" freetalklive and Ian (sorry Mark) and "goodbye" NH.  You guys have a grand old time up there and I really do hope you can make something of it but if you keep dumping on people who want to join you because they don't fit into your parameters, it's going to be a very small club indeed.

Gene (The Christian Anarchist)


P.S.  I will keep my AMP going (for now) because I really do hope you people eventually "get it".

We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.

Bullshit. You're just playing semantics. Whether you "screen" calls or just leave people on hold till they hang up the effect is the same- you choose who gets to talk. I don't recall ever hearing an intelligent person with an opposing opinion to yours get on. Any callers that do have opposing views (always morons) get treated exactly the way the "Freekeeners Suck - Go HOME!" guy who got on last night was.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 02:18:20 PM »

Chronic callers like Gene have to wait to make room for people who have never called before.  Gene knew that, as I'd told him before.

Ho-hum.  Go start your own show where you take calls in the order they called and let them yammer until they are tired of talking.  I bet that will be a really great show!
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 02:31:13 PM »

Chronic callers like Gene have to wait to make room for people who have never called before.  Gene knew that, as I'd told him before.

Ho-hum.  Go start your own show where you take calls in the order they called and let them yammer until they are tired of talking.  I bet that will be a really great show!
We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.
If you don't screen calls, how do you know who has called before? 

Sucks to get caught in a lie , huh?

And since when does pointing out that something sucks automatically mean that I can do it better, or even want to? My underwear are falling apart, and I think they did a shitty job sewing them, does that mean I should try to sew my own?
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 02:36:35 PM »

Ian knows I don't pull any punches in criticizing him and the show, especially in regard to the "childish bullshit" you referred to (some of which I agree with you on, but I certainly don't think all of the Keene activism is childish, or bullshit.)  Additionally, I do think they occasionally tend to jump all over a caller, but....

First, that's the nature of radio.  They treat callers with opposing opinions far worse on other shows.  Most hosts give people far less opportunity to state their opinions, especially when they disagree with them.  Often, the opposing viewpoint will be screened out before it even gets on the air.  Second, Mark and Ian enjoy having people with opposing viewpoints on so they can expose them.  They have a long history of letting callers show the absurdity of their viewpoints, when they disagree.

I really cannot agree with your claims.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 02:49:36 PM »

Chronic callers like Gene have to wait to make room for people who have never called before.  Gene knew that, as I'd told him before.

Ho-hum.  Go start your own show where you take calls in the order they called and let them yammer until they are tired of talking.  I bet that will be a really great show!
We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.
If you don't screen calls, how do you know who has called before? 

Sucks to get caught in a lie , huh?

And since when does pointing out that something sucks automatically mean that I can do it better, or even want to? My underwear are falling apart, and I think they did a shitty job sewing them, does that mean I should try to sew my own?

What lie?  We screen calls but don't refuse to take them.  Screening is done to get a name, locatiom, listening method, and topic.  Try again, dude.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 03:07:51 PM »

Chronic callers like Gene have to wait to make room for people who have never called before.  Gene knew that, as I'd told him before.

Ho-hum.  Go start your own show where you take calls in the order they called and let them yammer until they are tired of talking.  I bet that will be a really great show!
We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.
If you don't screen calls, how do you know who has called before? 

Sucks to get caught in a lie , huh?

And since when does pointing out that something sucks automatically mean that I can do it better, or even want to? My underwear are falling apart, and I think they did a shitty job sewing them, does that mean I should try to sew my own?

What lie?  We screen calls but don't refuse to take them.  Screening is done to get a name, locatiom, listening method, and topic.  Try again, dude.

I guess you don't understand what a lie is:
lie Ė noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.

Saying that you don't do something, and then admitting that you actually do is a lie. Real simple.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 06:42:01 PM »

Thanks for the English lesson.

Thing is, I didn't say we don't screen calls.  Please cite when I did.
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2010, 06:50:12 PM »

Thanks for the English lesson.

Thing is, I didn't say we don't screen calls.  Please cite when I did.

We don't select calls.  If you call and hold, you'll get on.  There were 0 additional angry Keeniacs calling in last night.  Not that I expect you to believe me.

Ar you smoking crack or what?
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Re: Critique on call-handling
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2010, 07:29:52 PM »

"select" isn't "screen"..
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