About the possible food shortage...

[error]

Ah, the USDA and their fudged numbers. About the only people taking those numbers seriously are traders who aren't actually watching the news. I'll be quite shocked if actual production meets their forecast.

I still want to see numbers for SURE program applications for this year and last year, and maybe some historical data. That's how many farmers applied for crop disaster assistance, and it's not a generally released number. Guess why.

[anarchir]

I read a survey among survivalists somewhere, and almost everyone plans on fleeing to the woods. Second place is staying where you are. If you dont know wilderness survival then staying where you are and hunkering down may be best. If you DO know how to camp in bad conditions, you may be better off going to the places where they may be less people: mountains, deserts, swamps, and plains. Maybe.

[rookie]

Sounds like real trouble. You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over. As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts. Get the hell out of L.A. for at least 48 hours. Blows my weekend. Because naturally I'm going to have to go with you. And we're going to have to arm ourselves... to the teeth.

[error]

I read a survey among survivalists somewhere, and almost everyone plans on fleeing to the woods. Second place is staying where you are. If you dont know wilderness survival then staying where you are and hunkering down may be best. If you DO know how to camp in bad conditions, you may be better off going to the places where they may be less people: mountains, deserts, swamps, and plains. Maybe.

Urban survival is certainly possible, and it may even be easier than surviving out in the woods. I saw a book on this not long ago; I'll have to dig it up again.

[ForumTroll]

Error, when civilization doesn't come to an end this summer because there was no food storage, which new story will you embrace to hope it will collapse?

[Cognitive Dissident]

on the flip side, I drove through CA's central valley earlier this year (once the richest farmland in the country, and the desolation was shocking:

http://www.california-blog.com/photos-information-places/2009/6/2/congress-created-dust-bowl-ca.html

I think that's because most of California imports most of the water, and drinking it is considered more important than growing rice in lakes of it.

[error]

Error, when civilization doesn't come to an end this summer because there was no food storage, which new story will you embrace to hope it will collapse?

You are living proof that society will collapse -- and should collapse.

[ForumTroll]

Error, when civilization doesn't come to an end this summer because there was no food storage, which new story will you embrace to hope it will collapse?

You are living proof that society will collapse -- and should collapse.

TROLL'D

[Cognitive Dissident]

I LOL'd.

[error]

Cold Snap Is Another Blow to Florida's Farmers

Vegetables were among the hardest hit. At least one major tomato grower, Ag-Mart Produce, has already declared that most of its Florida crop is “useless due to the freeze.” Other vegetable farms were expected to lose their entire crop, and wholesale prices have already increased.

“Tomatoes were down around $14 for a 25-pound box; now they are up over $20,” said Gene McAvoy, an agriculture expert with the University Florida, who predicted $100 million in vegetable losses. “Peppers — just after New Years they were $8 a box; now they’re up around $18.”

Translation: get ready to pay up to an extra dollar a pound at supermarkets in New York and Chicago.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Damn I wish I had bought futures a couple weeks ago...

[Cognitive Dissident]

Yeah, I would have liked to buy futures in the past too.