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Title: Your friends
Post by: cerpntaxt on December 19, 2006, 09:15:20 PM
Most of my friends are Democrat (Socialists). I have had people ask me more than once "so are you a Democrat or a Republican?" I know that these options aren't really very fair but by Libertarian I mean "liberty minded people" that want to, at the very least, minimize government. By Democrat and Republican, I mean the issues that Democrats and Republicans don't agree on (abortion, gay rights, etc). By Radical Left I mean like people that oppose private property and capitalism but also oppose government. Just wondering what most of your friends' political views are.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Charles on December 19, 2006, 10:13:48 PM
Most of my friends are libertarian, but I still have a large amount of radical left friends.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: cerpntaxt on December 19, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
I should have mentioned this, what do your non-libertarian friends think of your views? (everyone)
My friend that I talk most about politics with eventually our discussions come down do disagreement over some basic premise (ie taxes)
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Charles on December 19, 2006, 10:55:05 PM
They think I hate poor people or something.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: zebraflood on December 19, 2006, 11:20:58 PM
I don't know. Most are apathetically libertarian-esque, I guess. Certainly freedom oriented, though perhaps inconsistent. My closer friends at least. Intelligent, but with specialized areas of "real life" interest that they don't think involves politics, even though politics affect everyone. Most like to play with these issues during philosophical jibber-jabber, but reconciling abstract principles with the real seems to be a problem.

I got into an argument with an acquaintance at work the other day about illegal immigration and just ended up yelling "bullshit!" a lot, which I realized afterward was a very poor conversion technique.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Taors on December 19, 2006, 11:24:45 PM
None of my friends give a fuck.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: freedom geek on December 20, 2006, 08:38:39 AM
Do internet friends count?
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Taors on December 20, 2006, 08:58:21 AM
I think he means real life friends.

Oh yeah...they think I'm insane. I had this one friend that claims to believe in a 'strict interpretation' of the Constitution, who is a Bush lover. When we were hanging out I'd quote some of the founding fathers on their views on government, and he'd say shit like "Freedm and liberty don't work, that was like 300 years ago". Someone should put him in a cage and throw away the key and see how he fucking likes it.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: freedom geek on December 20, 2006, 09:19:17 AM
I think he means real life friends.

Oh yeah...they think I'm insane. I had this one friend that claims to believe in a 'strict interpretation' of the Constitution, who is a Bush lover. When we were hanging out I'd quote some of the founding fathers on their views on government, and he'd say shit like "Freedm and liberty don't work, that was like 300 years ago". Someone should put him in a cage and throw away the key and see how he fucking likes it.
Can't answer then since I don't really have any.  :lol:
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Johnny_ on December 20, 2006, 10:30:05 AM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Taors on December 20, 2006, 12:11:52 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: freedom geek on December 20, 2006, 12:14:11 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
I'm really vocal about my political views...
Maybe that's why I don't have any friends...  :lol:
Libertarianism isn't very populer here in perth.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Johnny_ on December 20, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
I'm really vocal about my political views...
Maybe that's why I don't have any friends...  :lol:
Libertarianism isn't very populer here in perth.

Libertarianism (with a little L if it wasn't at the beginning of a sentence), to me, borders so closely to a philosophy that you almost can't really convert someone no matter how hard you try, you can only introduce them to it, explain it, answer questions, guide them, and hope that they eventually realize that politicans don't exist to decide how to take your money and spend it.  It's so different from issue-based politics that when you discuss issues with friends, libertarianism can make one come off as an uncaring douchebag, as opposed to someone who just believes we're human beings who have the right to not be unjustly robbed.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Taors on December 20, 2006, 12:37:30 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
I'm really vocal about my political views...
Maybe that's why I don't have any friends...  :lol:
Libertarianism isn't very populer here in perth.

Go to parties (real parties, not political parties) and have some fun.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: freedom geek on December 20, 2006, 12:41:17 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
I'm really vocal about my political views...
Maybe that's why I don't have any friends...  :lol:
Libertarianism isn't very populer here in perth.

Go to parties (real parties, not political parties) and have some fun.
Do lan partys count?  :D
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Taors on December 20, 2006, 12:44:07 PM
I don't talk about politics with friends. It's a dangerous road to go down. So I actually don't know the political views of any of my friends except for one, who's a classic small-government conservative who hates Bush and thinks politicians are fucking us all over.

That's how I am most of the time. It's a subject I try to avoid. That and religion.
I'm really vocal about my political views...
Maybe that's why I don't have any friends...  :lol:
Libertarianism isn't very populer here in perth.

Go to parties (real parties, not political parties) and have some fun.
Do lan partys count?  :D

Mmmm...kinda. I guess.
Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 02:08:57 AM
I normally dont argue with people over this stuff.  When I do, I get all worked up and as previously noted, yelling "bullshit"  is poor form. 

The story about the cops in my livingroom getting a lecture on the 4th amendment springs to mind.  I'm lucky they didnt tazer me, but I was so drunk I woulda probably just burst into flames. 

A month ago I berated some jackass in a bar who proffered his rediculous opinion about government inspection of rental units being a good thing, as a step towards gaining a permit to rent your property to tennants.  After telling him he was too stupid to make decisions for himself and generally hacking him into chunks of roadkill, I left because I ran out of money and was disgusted with the guy anyway.  An older guy who has some brains in his head low fived me on the way past his seat. 

Its not a coincidence those stories both involve alcohol. 

Title: Re: Your friends
Post by: RottingNation on December 22, 2006, 03:15:11 AM
A slim majority of my friends are war mongering neo-cons.   We agree on most things.... except they are war mongerers.  Oh and they are blind to the current presidents desicration of the constitution.  Other than that though....