Will Republicans fear the Ron Paul ultimatum?

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Total Members Voted: 9

[AlexLibman]

Make it clear to all your Republican friends that it's Ron Paul or bust!  He's the only Republican candidate you'd vote for, and the only one who can bring a large number of voters into (or out of) their party.  It doesn't matter if Ron Paul runs as an independent / third party or not, and it doesn't matter if you threaten to vote libertarian or not vote at all, just make it clear that's the only way they'd ever get your vote and that there are enough people like you to make a difference.  The big government vote is split between Reps and Dems 50:50, so they shouldn't expect to win any election ever again (without cheating at least) without satisfying the Libertarian block, some of whom have voted Republican until now, and most never voted at all and never will - except for someone like Ron Paul!

And sign this petition (and/or another one like it) and spread it around Ron Paul supporters:

    To:  US Citizens

    I swear by all I personally hold right and decent, I will only vote Republican in the 2008 election if Ron Paul is on the Republican ballot.

    Sincerely,

    The Undersigned

Pure and simple.  If you sign one Ron Paul petition this election season, this should be it.  Though I'm only endorsing the idea of the petition, not this particular online method - an offline petition that can't be cheated would work best, especially since there are enough energetic Ron Paul supporters to take the clipboards out onto college campuses and other public places.  And it's not just for Republicans - it's for any people who'd vote for Ron Paul (over Obama Clinton) if he's nominated and definitely won't vote for Rudy McRomneyson.

Remember how close the past two elections were!  If we could get a hundred thousand signers on a petition like that, the GOP establishment would at least start showing Ron Paul's campaign some respect!  A few hundred thousand more, and they'd be gettin' mighty scared then!  And if we could get a million plus signatures - they'd outright piss their pants! 

Remember, they believe in mainstream polls, that there are a million Ron Paul supporters tops total in the whole country - if more people than that sign this petition, their bubble will finally burst and the self-fulfilling prophecy will be defeated!

[phantomofroute66]

We seriously need to find a way to keep the dream alive as long as possible.  I'm not going to be ready to give up if he doesn't get the nomination, and I'm going to be very disappointed if he doesn't give it an independent go.  I think the thing we need to be doing is inundating his own website with E-mails urging him to run as an independent if the GOP fails to pick him.  When I send my own donation, I'm going to tell him I'm paying him to win, not to quit.

[Rillion]

Sounds like a great idea, except that I don't have any Republican friends so there's nobody for me to frighten.   

[AlexLibman]

I think the thing we need to be doing is inundating his own website with E-mails urging him to run as an independent if the GOP fails to pick him.

Definitely, but that shouldn't be our top priority for another six months or so.  At this point, doing everything possible to fight for that GOP nom, including looking for prestigious political endorsements and this ultimatum to split the party, is a better use of one's time.  Even if Ron is already planning an independent run, it would be strategically unwise to yup about it now, leading the neo-con spinners to dismiss him as a non-Republican.

Sounds like a great idea, except that I don't have any Republican friends so there's nobody for me to frighten.   

Then tell your Democrat friends that if their party won't do the unexpected and nominate Ron Paul, there's ain't no way you're voting for them either! 

[Ed]

I think I've almost got my dad on the RP bandwagon.

My dad's still one of those "they hate us cuz we're a Christian nation!" folks though.

[AlexLibman]

Here's a better one: RonPaulRegistry.com with nearly 4K signs already.

(Digg it up)

[libertylover]

Well I have said it before to NeoCons who go but you wouldn't want a Democrat to win would you.  They have blackmailed out the Republican Party long enough.  The response to the NeoCon argument should be if a NeoCon Republican wins there is no difference.  Then you are only choosing what flavor of big government you aren't voting for traditional conservative values.

So I say hell yes, "RON PAUL or BUST Republican Party."

[BKO]

Paul never had a chance. Very sad, but true. I am sorry.

The only way you can ever expect to win this game is to play like a winner. This means you would have to choose a candidate who could get elected to start with. Unfortunately, the only candidates who fit that role are part of a global conspiracy to bring about increased numbers of men in black gestappo outfits, endless corporate advertising and happy pills for children. Weep for them. Weep for all of the children in Africa. Do it, and vote for Obama because he cares...and because Hillary is the only other option for suicide.

[dalebert]

I'm already doing this. Considering what the Republicans have been offering us for candidates, they deserve to lose to Democrats. If Ron doesn't win the primary, and I know it's a long shot, then I expect Democrats to win and it's what the Republican party deserves.

[BKO]

Hell ya, man. Vote for Paul no matter what. I never could grasp the concept of people voting for the "projected winner" like this is some video game or boxing match.

Ron Paul will only win the nomination if he changed his name to Forrest Gump and stole his luck...but he's got mah vote.

[AlexLibman]

The Bush Administration has done more harm to the cause of limited government than a trashcompactorful of Clintons could ever do!  There's going to be a whole generation of TV-watching Americans who'll think that Dubya is the conservative ideal, and any true conservatives (and, by association, objectivists, libertarians, minarchists, etc) will suffer as the result!

It would be better to split the vote and put a socialist in power (and thus let the self-defeating nature of socialism become apparent yet again) than to let a Rudy McRomneyson neo-con continue doing this damage to the framing of political ideas in this country!

Showing our numbers through straw polls (the ones that aren't rigged) and donations isn't enough, we must make it clear to the Republican establishment that the Ron Paul supporters, not kool-aid drinking party loyalists, have the power to sway this election one way or the other!