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Why do foreigners hate the US?

Our wealth
- 8 (12.1%)
Our poverty
- 0 (0%)
Our freedom
- 4 (6.1%)
Our lack of freedom
- 2 (3%)
Our religion
- 8 (12.1%)
Our lack of religion
- 3 (4.5%)
Our foreign meddling
- 40 (60.6%)
Our isolationism
- 1 (1.5%)

Total Members Voted: 15


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Taors

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2007, 08:06:55 PM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
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aquabanianskakid

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2007, 08:16:01 PM »

I had to vote for religion and foreign meddling. I don't think they hate us because there are so many Christians here, more because the Christians that are here are pushy hatemongers. It's silly to think they hate us solely because we have money.
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Bill Brasky

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2007, 04:41:20 AM »

Once upon a time, not so long ago, our guys were hailed as heros.  The little european towns they liberated from the Nazis were happy to have someone step up to the plate in their defense. 

As time went on, the occupation forces turned out to often be as fucked up as the foe they had conquored.  Still more time passed, and other wars led to more of the same, but without as much purpose.  The reasons for being there were questionable and the men felt betrayed by their government for using them in a global chess match.  Idle hands are the devils workshop and all that.  Reputations began to go sour and word spreads of our cruelty to the locals.  People dont forget that shit.  And forgetting it isnt an option with the constant barrage of media being beamed all over the globe...  Which is good.  People should know. 

The problem is our fucking government keeps throwing our men and women into senseless fights and lying about the reasons.  Our reputation is fucked, on a military level.  There will always be little pockets of support for our efforts in places like Iraq among the locals, they envy our prosperity and want to be Americanized.  At least the kids do.  Until they see one of our guys flip out and clock some native in the head with the butt of his rifle. 

We need to recall our forces from foreign lands where we are based by leverage instead of invitation, and from all the hotspots where we are currently using our forces for no fucking reason but to shape their government into a western puppet. 

If another Nazi thing pops up somewhere, I could be convinced it needs killin'.  Send the troops if its absolutely necessary, and recall them when its over.  Send 'em in hard and hot and loaded for rhino, none of this escallation bullshit.  Dominate the dog, kill the dog, bury the dog.  Done.

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Taors

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2007, 05:50:15 AM »

I agree. There's absolutely no reason for occupation. Especially after 61 years.
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2007, 07:23:01 PM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.
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Taors

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2007, 07:38:36 PM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2007, 07:59:37 PM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.

Thats one of the many reasons democracy sucks a fat one.
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mbd

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2007, 09:45:55 PM »

Because we kill them and skullfuck their ol' ladies.
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supperman15

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2007, 01:25:35 AM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.

I agree but its more perfect then what we have now.  im all for more options, less mandates
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Bill Brasky

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2007, 01:29:17 AM »

Because we kill them and skullfuck their ol' ladies.

They hate that. 
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Taors

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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2007, 01:39:58 AM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.

I agree but its more perfect then what we have now.  im all for more options, less mandates

If a group of people want to go to war, let them. They can raise all the money they want voluntarily and then go invade. I don't have to be apart of it though.
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2007, 01:53:35 AM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.

I agree but its more perfect then what we have now.  im all for more options, less mandates

If a group of people want to go to war, let them. They can raise all the money they want voluntarily and then go invade. I don't have to be apart of it though.

I agree.  Some of us don't believe in attacking unless we're directly threatened. 
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2007, 05:20:23 PM »

Europe was asking for help and we should have been able to decide if we wanted to help or not.

Who is 'we'? By 'we', are you referring to the United States government? I think there's a big difference between having love for your country and love for your government.
I was refering to 'we the people'... public vote.. cus why not.

What if I didn't want to help though? I'd still have to pay for it because in Democracy the majority rules the minority.

I agree but its more perfect then what we have now.  im all for more options, less mandates

If a group of people want to go to war, let them. They can raise all the money they want voluntarily and then go invade. I don't have to be apart of it though.

I agree.  Some of us don't believe in attacking unless we're directly threatened. 

I agree as well.  I am just looking at steps to get there.  It is great to think that is a change that can (and should be made over night) but if that cant practicly happen then what are the steps along the way.  A public vote may not be a wise idea either because of what was being discussed in another fourm Propaganda.  If you look at suport going into Iraque public vote would have probably said "yes"  And then how often do you vote for continuation, who calls for that vote?  I see the problems with all of those systems, wich is why i think having decentrilized malitias of volunteers is much better.  I was just wondering what is a step that could get us closer.
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2007, 07:48:58 PM »

The logical answer would be to cut military funding and those who choose to do so could support private militias.  I didn't say the answer was flawless, just logical. 
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Re: Why do foreigners hate the US?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2007, 10:19:33 PM »

Realistically, I think violence is what will really change things, as much as I would like to believe otherwise. I think there were plenty o' colonists who would have been happy to pay a tea tax and just be colonists. Nothing has changed.
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