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What is your Religion

Atheism
- 19 (24.4%)
Christianity
- 7 (9%)
Jewish
- 1 (1.3%)
Catholic
- 1 (1.3%)
Hinduism
- 0 (0%)
Buddhism
- 1 (1.3%)
Rastafarianism
- 1 (1.3%)
Islam
- 3 (3.8%)
Taoism
- 1 (1.3%)
Neopaganism / Pagan
- 4 (5.1%)
Satanism
- 1 (1.3%)
Scientology
- 0 (0%)
Wiccan
- 0 (0%)
Pastafarian
- 0 (0%)
Animistic
- 0 (0%)
All Religions :D
- 1 (1.3%)
No Religion / Not Religious
- 19 (24.4%)
None of these
- 11 (14.1%)
Pantheism
- 2 (2.6%)
Judaism
- 2 (2.6%)
Asatru / Norse Gods
- 2 (2.6%)
Discordian/Subgenius
- 1 (1.3%)
Pantheist
- 1 (1.3%)
Government
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 44

Voting closes: December 20, 2035, 01:27:29 PM


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Re: What is your Religion
« Reply #225 on: August 15, 2008, 07:06:42 PM »

Most neo-pagans and/or Wiccan's I've met tend to be socialist and a little on the kooky, ultra-feminist side. While most Asatruar/Germanic Heathens I've met tend to either be libertarian or paleo-conservative.
Good God Yes! True that. I remember trying to date those Luna Loonies as a Anarchist Asatru... what a nightmare.

Yeah, it's difficult to make any definative statements with the word Muslim. The confusion is that Muslim is scriptural while Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Salafi etc are distinctions made later. So everyone uses the word. I use the word because I identify with it's literal meaning, Mu="one who" Salam="Submits/is at peace". A Musilm is a person obedient to the Will of God... everything else is up in the air.
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« Reply #226 on: August 15, 2008, 07:08:45 PM »

Yeah, it's difficult to make any definative statements with the word Muslim. The confusion is that Muslim is scriptural while Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Salafi etc are distinctions made later. So everyone uses the word. I use the word because I identify with it's literal meaning, Mu="one who" Salam="Submits/is at peace". A Musilm is a person obedient to the Will of God... everything else is up in the air.

Yep. That's what I figured.
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« Reply #227 on: August 15, 2008, 07:26:44 PM »

When I said pagan, I meant it as an umbrella term, just like I would use secularist for atheists, agnostics, humanists, etc.

I'm well aware of the in-happenings of the pagan community in general. I know most of them like to be called by their respective titles, and not pagan.
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« Reply #228 on: August 16, 2008, 08:05:40 PM »


One thing I have always wondered about as a Jew is why the Xtians [sic] don't keep kosher, if they believe in the Bible.
 
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I wonder why many jews don't.


But paul said it was OK not to be kosher. I never liked paul. It was easier to convert pagans with less rules.


as for Jews who dont keep kosher, they need to start, its not like the have another option.
Bah, you know I'm never going to keep kosher to the standards of Chabad.  It's not that I like pork, its just that I like halibut to much.
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« Reply #229 on: August 16, 2008, 08:11:25 PM »

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 I don't know of any of the old non-Abrahamic religions that wanted to convert anyone, let alone convert anyone by sword and spear.

Are you kidding me?  Have you ever heard of Baal?  That's just one example, but there are countless examples.  Egypt anyone?  Prior to Judaism pretty much every religion in the Middle East converted by sword and spear! 
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« Reply #230 on: August 16, 2008, 08:20:44 PM »

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 I don't know of any of the old non-Abrahamic religions that wanted to convert anyone, let alone convert anyone by sword and spear.

Are you kidding me?  Have you ever heard of Baal?  That's just one example, but there are countless examples.  Egypt anyone?  Prior to Judaism pretty much every religion in the Middle East converted by sword and spear! 

This is true.

One word: Rome.
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« Reply #231 on: August 16, 2008, 08:53:54 PM »

I think you and I might be on a similar page - I consider myself a pre-Nicaean Christian in that I don't believe that just because a bunch of bureaucrats decided that the books of Biblical canon were the inerrant word of God, that that makes it so. I furthermore reject all forms of hierarchy within the Church.

So does that mean your a Unitarian, or do you accept the Trinity?

I see little difference between Islam and pre-Nicaean Unitarian Christianity.

I'm a Trinitarian, I suppose, if that's the only option other than Unitarianism. But I'm not in line with Evangelical Trinitarianism. I see the Father/Son/Spirit distinction as thing which God (the person) does, rather than three actual persons.
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« Reply #232 on: August 16, 2008, 08:57:53 PM »


One thing I have always wondered about as a Jew is why the Xtians [sic] don't keep kosher, if they believe in the Bible.
 
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I wonder why many jews don't.


But paul said it was OK not to be kosher. I never liked paul. It was easier to convert pagans with less rules.


as for Jews who dont keep kosher, they need to start, its not like the have another option.
Bah, you know I'm never going to keep kosher to the standards of Chabad.  It's not that I like pork, its just that I like halibut to much.
I always find it strange when my diet follows kosher law more than some jews. I don't eat any animal products, so my diet is pretty much kosher.

Jews make some pretty good fake dairy products.
http://tofutti.com/Mintz_Makes_Tofutti.pdf
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Re: What is your Religion
« Reply #233 on: August 16, 2008, 08:59:51 PM »

I generally eat Kosher, with some deviation. I like my steak rare for instance, and I love seafood. Nevertheless, those are rare indulgences for me. Not because of some kind of conviction one way or the other - I just recognize that the Kosher laws were sound dietary advice.
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Re: What is your Religion
« Reply #234 on: August 16, 2008, 09:49:10 PM »

I generally eat Kosher, with some deviation. I like my steak rare for instance, and I love seafood. Nevertheless, those are rare indulgences for me. Not because of some kind of conviction one way or the other - I just recognize that the Kosher laws were sound dietary advice.

Is seafood not Kosher? I keep Kosher in the sense that I keep Halal which includes Kosher. I know there's some difference of opinion as to whether or not Shell fish is Halal, where there is no uncertainty that it isn't Kosher. But what about regular seafood?
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« Reply #236 on: August 16, 2008, 09:51:34 PM »

Does the seafood have fins and scales?
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« Reply #237 on: August 16, 2008, 09:52:54 PM »

Few Christians actually read the Bible in the early days of the religion. Priests handled all of that. For one thing, Bibles were in Greek or Latin. Also, books were god-awful expensive, and hardly anyone except the wealthy could afford them. Churches, if they had a Bible at all, had only one, which the priest read and then conveyed to his flock. And, there was just one official interpretation for everything in the Bible.

Much of the Old Testament law was considered obsolete with the coming of Jesus. However, whenever the Church desired to burn a witch or stone a homosexual, the old laws would be dragged out and dusted off.

It was not until the Reformation that common people started to read the Bible. Suddenly, everyone and his brother had their own interpretation of what the book meant. Since virtually anything between its covers can be read numerous ways, all bets were off! That's one of the keys to Christianity's success--it's so malleable that it can be twisted to whatever purpose one wishes.
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« Reply #238 on: August 16, 2008, 10:30:45 PM »

I have to add that the interpretation of the bible was twisted before the reformation--actually, the reformation was a response to it--starting with the 95 theses and all.  Of course, this guy, Luther, wrote the German translation, which he had Gutenberg print on his new invention.  He brought the bible to the people could read along (and keep the church "honest.")  Before that, it was about remembering what the priesthood taught.
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« Reply #239 on: August 16, 2008, 10:55:08 PM »

How does god feel about Olestra? What hath the bible sayethed?
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