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Are Vegans allowed to swallow?  

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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 02:17:19 PM »

A vegetarian will not eat animals but will have milk, eggs, and honey.
That would be a lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Can jews swallow? Is it kosher?

Is a jew that isn't kosher a jew?



For the man, it would be spilling seed int vain. For the woman, I dont know offhand.
A Jew that doesnt keep kosher is still Jewish, just not observant.

even if it's just to knock out all the retarded ones?
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2008, 02:18:24 PM »

Believe you me, I am sitting here trying to think where I can find the answer to the question. I have arguments for both sides, but I dont know where the final verdict is.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 02:20:20 PM »

Believe you me, I am sitting here trying to think where I can find the answer to the question. I have arguments for both sides, but I dont know where the final verdict is.

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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 02:20:44 PM »

A vegetarian will not eat animals but will have milk, eggs, and honey.
That would be a lacto-ovo vegetarian.

Can jews swallow? Is it kosher?

Is a jew that isn't kosher a jew?



For the man, it would be spilling seed int vain. For the woman, I dont know offhand.
A Jew that doesnt keep kosher is still Jewish, just not observant.

even if it's just to knock out all the retarded ones?

Yup. Since the obligation to have children is on the men, women are allowed to use condoms, but men arent.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2008, 02:21:52 PM »

Some vegans eat honey. Some will eat eggs from "happy chickens". Some wear leather and wool.

Then they ain't vegans.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2008, 02:32:16 PM »

Some vegans eat honey. Some will eat eggs from "happy chickens". Some wear leather and wool.

Then they ain't vegans.
They are just not observant vegans.

There are also vegans who are ok with eating roadkill.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2008, 02:42:10 PM by blackie »
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2008, 02:35:18 PM »

Believe you me, I am sitting here trying to think where I can find the answer to the question. I have arguments for both sides, but I dont know where the final verdict is.

I think the answer is "no" for both vegans and Jains.  Although, I'm not sure why you'd actually want to have oral sex with either one in the first place. 
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2008, 02:37:03 PM »

Believe you me, I am sitting here trying to think where I can find the answer to the question. I have arguments for both sides, but I dont know where the final verdict is.
Check out Rabbi Shmuley

http://www.shmuley.com/articles.php?id=180

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Students of Jewish thought are under the impression that oral sex is prohibited as a matter of law. They cite the rulings in the Code of Jewish law that says that that for a man to kiss the area of his wife?s genitals is lewd, thus prohibing cunnilingus, and that wasted seed is a severe prohibition, thus prohibiting oral sex on a man. In truth, however, these prohibitions are not law within Judaism, and the Talmud goes to great lenghts to emphasize that whatever brings pleausre to a husband and wife is permitted in marriage.
 
To be sure, there are Jewish thinkers who pursued a very ascetic line with regards to sex. They felt it was primarily about procreation and that man must not indulge in sex but rather harness and cultivate his ?higher? faculties, like his mind and his intelligence. In his opus compilation of Jewish law, the great medeival Jewish legalist, Maimonides writes: A man?s wife is permitted to him. Therefore, whatever a man wishes to do with his wife he may do. He may have intercourse whenever he pleases and he may kiss any organ he wishes. And he may have intercourse in a natural or unnatural manner as long as he does not expend semen to no purpose.
 
With this he establishes the essence of Talmudic sexuality which is extremely liberal and lax and encourages, even obligates, a husband and wife to pleasure each other. The Talmud declares that basically everything is permitted with the exception of having sex during menstruatoin and seven days thereafter, wilful and intentional destruction of seed, and thinking of other people while making love to your spouse.

So it sounds like swallowing would be OK if a non-jewish dude married a jewish chick.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2008, 05:01:56 PM »

Some vegans eat honey. Some will eat eggs from "happy chickens". Some wear leather and wool.

Then they ain't vegans.
They are just not observant vegans.

There are also vegans who are ok with eating roadkill.

can you call a non-obversant vegan a vegan? 

to be a vegan means to eat nothing produced by an animal, as stated before, so if you eat stuff produced by an animal you cease to be a vegan.

if you cease to be a vegan, does PETA come to your house and kill you?

and what about plants feeling pain?  they actually show an autonomic response to having living leaves plucked, so does picking fruits and berries cause them "pain" as well?

and what about the fact that meat just plain tastes so damn good?  and if you are a vegan, you usually have to take protein supplements.  i know a vegan chick who lost all of her hair because of that.

oh, and how about the fact that when you eat a fruit, you are eating the meat of the fruit?

i say no, vegans cannot swallow semen because it comes from an animal

and aren't all men really just animals at heart?
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2008, 05:22:44 PM »

 
to be a vegan means to eat nothing produced by an animal, as stated before, so if you eat stuff produced by an animal you cease to be a vegan.
No, that is not what it means. It means different things to different people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
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The Vegan Society defines veganism in this way:
[T]he word "veganism" denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.[1]

A vegan that consumes an animal product by mistake is still a vegan.

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if you cease to be a vegan, does PETA come to your house and kill you?
Vegan and PETA don't have anything to do with each other.

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and what about plants feeling pain?  they actually show an autonomic response to having living leaves plucked, so does picking fruits and berries cause them "pain" as well?
Does feeling pain turn the plants into animals?
Fruits and berries don't need to be picked. They fall off at some point.

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and what about the fact that meat just plain tastes so damn good?
Does it? I don't know many people that eat plain meat without cooking it, and they also usually add plants. Herbs and spices, for flavor.

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and if you are a vegan, you usually have to take protein supplements.
Lies.

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oh, and how about the fact that when you eat a fruit, you are eating the meat of the fruit?
But is the meat from a fruit an animal product?

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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2008, 05:33:16 PM »

Blackie, I don't think you've ever explained here why you're a vegan. Can you enlighten us?
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2008, 05:34:54 PM »

« Last Edit: December 05, 2008, 05:42:18 PM by blackie »
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2008, 05:37:26 PM »

Nice.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2008, 06:47:25 PM »

sarcasm blackie, learn it, love it, live it.
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Re: Vegans....Are they allowed to swallow?
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2008, 06:53:21 PM »

Veganism is for homos.
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