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(Q1) How soon will the state of Israel fall?   (Q2) How do you feel about that?

(Q1)  <5 years
- 0 (0%)
(Q1)  5-10 years
- 2 (5.1%)
(Q1)  10-15 years
- 2 (5.1%)
(Q1)  15-20 years
- 3 (7.7%)
(Q1)  20-25 years
- 3 (7.7%)
(Q1)  25-30 years
- 0 (0%)
(Q1)  30-40 years
- 0 (0%)
(Q1)  40-50 years
- 1 (2.6%)
(Q1)  50-75 years
- 0 (0%)
(Q1)  75-100 years
- 1 (2.6%)
(Q1)  100+ years
- 2 (5.1%)
(Q1)  Never!
- 2 (5.1%)
(Q1)  Don't care.
- 1 (2.6%)
(Q2)  Positive.
- 10 (25.6%)
(Q2)  Negative.
- 3 (7.7%)
(Q2)  It won't fall!
- 4 (10.3%)
(Q2)  Don't care.
- 5 (12.8%)

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The Fall of Israel
« on: May 09, 2009, 10:24:06 PM »

From PressTV.com -- CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years --

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A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


(Prompted by a long thread on JREF Forums, which I didn't participate in.)

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« Last Edit: May 09, 2009, 10:26:01 PM by Alex Libman 15 »
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Re: The Fall of Israel
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 10:47:20 AM »

OK, we have 6 votes for Q1 and 7 votes for Q2.  Someone here doesn't follow directions and probably shouldn't be trusted with automatic weapons and such...  :roll:
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Re: The Fall of Israel
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 08:34:57 PM »

I don't see any major changes coming any time soon.

Eventually maybe Israel will stop poking Palestinians with a stick, and palestinians will stop lashing out long enough for trade, transport and fucking to homogenize the whole area.

Or could be Israel keeps bombing and bulldozing Palestine till theres nothing left.

Either way, Israel isn't going anywhere fast while it still has nukes and a massive military budjet.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 11:42:43 PM »

I don't see any major changes coming any time soon.

Eventually maybe Israel will stop poking Palestinians with a stick, and palestinians will stop lashing out long enough for trade, transport and fucking to homogenize the whole area.

Or could be Israel keeps bombing and bulldozing Palestine till theres nothing left.

Either way, Israel isn't going anywhere fast while it still has nukes and a massive military budjet.

Fatcat, you do not realize how much more optimistic then me you are. Once the problems with the Palestinians are solved (assuming thats possible), another country is going to start rattling its saber again. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq all did so in the past, and one can't rule them out in doing it again. There really is not a shortage to pretenders on the throne of new countries to harass the Israelis.

Its a patten thats discernible to anyone who isn't a complete idiot that the problems Israel has with its neighbors is symptomatic of a larger problem Israel has in general. Israel has been failing its mission that G-d put Jews on earth for, and the Sabras are too stupid to realize what has been going on. The Sabras also do not seem interested in improving themselves as people so they will continue to drag everyone else along with them into war after war after war.

In terms to homogenization.........the damage another war would do is preferable to the damage that homogenization would do.
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Re: The Fall of Israel
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 09:16:06 PM »

In terms to homogenization.........the damage another war would do is preferable to the damage that homogenization would do.

So you're saying peace is a bad thing?

Anyway, as far as "pretenders to the throne" goes, don't be so melodramatic. Israel vs Palestine isn't some epic clash. Its one massive violent state warring with a really poor, really small half state-half guerrilla intifada. Look at the kill numbers from each side if you don't believe me.

Once Palestine is gone it would be relatively smooth sailing for Israel. No other populace has the sheer entrenched hatred to start another terrorist led intifada, and as long as Israel didn't do something stupid like invade a neighboring country over a kidnapping, its unlikely it could ever build up that resentment again.

Palestinians vs Israel is a completely different situation to what Jordan or Syria vs Israel would be like. All the people attacking Israel in Lebanon and Palestine is not some well funded large scale operation, its a bunch of violent people with home made rockets and a sincere desire to kill Israelis.

You don't think there have been opportunities for Jordan or Syria to jump into the Israel-Palestine conflict yet? They're just waiting for Palestine to be out of the way so Israel can focus all their military resources on a war with them?

The the leaders have a strong vested interest in not having Israel attack them, unlike Hamas. Political control in Gaza is relegated to a bunch of AKs and willing psychopaths, the whole nature of the war Hamas want to fight necessitates a decentralized structure that cannot be decapitated or destroyed by a mere few weeks of heavy bombing.

Theres no big power structure. Shit, look at how many Hamas "headquarters" and "leaders" got took out in the 2008 incursion of Gaza, and there wasn't a period during the war Hamas did not launch rockets, and only a 2 week spell during the rearmament "truce", where they didn't. If after a war that kills over 1000 Hamas members, and does untold infrastructural damage, Hamas never lose capability to fire rockets, what the fuck do you think it will take?

Compare it to something like the Iraq war. Big fuck off militaries like the IDF do very well against big centralized armies. The Iraq army was near decimated within 2 weeks, and its not the Iraq army that ever dropped US soldiers, its the lengthy, terrorist based intifada that relies on a heavy supply of recruits from an embittered populace that does it.

Once you have a nuke, thats it, stalemate, no wars, it doesn't matter if you have 1 nuke, or 1,000,000 nukes (untill effective nuke shields come about).

Too bad all the shock and awe stuff does nothing to reduce the willingness, or the ability of dirt rag intifada's to make, smuggle and use rockets. The more bodies you drop, the more supporters join the cause, so unless you're willing to wipe out the entire populace, its a never ending war, just the way war mongers like it.

The thing that mostly break these gung-ho occupations is that the voting populace at home gets sick of body bags of their own soldiers coming back, and eventually the war loses popularity (vietnam, iraq, etc), but since Israel have got media coverage of war, and avoiding soldiers getting killed down to a tee, it will be interesting to see which path this one takes.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 11:39:56 PM »

In terms to homogenization.........the damage another war would do is preferable to the damage that homogenization would do.

So you're saying peace is a bad thing?

Anyway, as far as "pretenders to the throne" goes, don't be so melodramatic. Israel vs Palestine isn't some epic clash. Its one massive violent state warring with a really poor, really small half state-half guerrilla intifada. Look at the kill numbers from each side if you don't believe me.

Once Palestine is gone it would be relatively smooth sailing for Israel. No other populace has the sheer entrenched hatred to start another terrorist led intifada, and as long as Israel didn't do something stupid like invade a neighboring country over a kidnapping, its unlikely it could ever build up that resentment again.

Palestinians vs Israel is a completely different situation to what Jordan or Syria vs Israel would be like. All the people attacking Israel in Lebanon and Palestine is not some well funded large scale operation, its a bunch of violent people with home made rockets and a sincere desire to kill Israelis.

You don't think there have been opportunities for Jordan or Syria to jump into the Israel-Palestine conflict yet? They're just waiting for Palestine to be out of the way so Israel can focus all their military resources on a war with them?

The the leaders have a strong vested interest in not having Israel attack them, unlike Hamas. Political control in Gaza is relegated to a bunch of AKs and willing psychopaths, the whole nature of the war Hamas want to fight necessitates a decentralized structure that cannot be decapitated or destroyed by a mere few weeks of heavy bombing.

Theres no big power structure. Shit, look at how many Hamas "headquarters" and "leaders" got took out in the 2008 incursion of Gaza, and there wasn't a period during the war Hamas did not launch rockets, and only a 2 week spell during the rearmament "truce", where they didn't. If after a war that kills over 1000 Hamas members, and does untold infrastructural damage, Hamas never lose capability to fire rockets, what the fuck do you think it will take?

Compare it to something like the Iraq war. Big fuck off militaries like the IDF do very well against big centralized armies. The Iraq army was near decimated within 2 weeks, and its not the Iraq army that ever dropped US soldiers, its the lengthy, terrorist based intifada that relies on a heavy supply of recruits from an embittered populace that does it.

Once you have a nuke, thats it, stalemate, no wars, it doesn't matter if you have 1 nuke, or 1,000,000 nukes (untill effective nuke shields come about).

Too bad all the shock and awe stuff does nothing to reduce the willingness, or the ability of dirt rag intifada's to make, smuggle and use rockets. The more bodies you drop, the more supporters join the cause, so unless you're willing to wipe out the entire populace, its a never ending war, just the way war mongers like it.

The thing that mostly break these gung-ho occupations is that the voting populace at home gets sick of body bags of their own soldiers coming back, and eventually the war loses popularity (vietnam, iraq, etc), but since Israel have got media coverage of war, and avoiding soldiers getting killed down to a tee, it will be interesting to see which path this one takes.

Peace is a good thing, but I am skeptic that it will happen without intervention from above.

The historical record shows that when one country stops harassing Israel, another takes its place. Its a pattern. If you saw the numbers 1,8,27, you could easily figure out what the forth number would be because the pattern is easily discernable. The same holds true here. Israel has been harassed by others since its inception. Hell, even the Japanese did suicide attacks on its soil.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 10:28:34 AM »

Peace is a good thing, but I am skeptic that it will happen without intervention from above.

The historical record shows that when one country stops harassing Israel, another takes its place. Its a pattern. If you saw the numbers 1,8,27, you could easily figure out what the forth number would be because the pattern is easily discernable. The same holds true here. Israel has been harassed by others since its inception. Hell, even the Japanese did suicide attacks on its soil.

Surely homogenization would mean peace then?

When there are only Palisraelians around, there isn't any enemy to fight.

And you can hardly talk about the historical record of Israel.

Its only been around for 60 odd years, and as I already mentioned, the procurement of nuclear weapons changes the whole dynamic.

No heavy top down political organization would risk war with a nuclear power.

You can't destroy political control. If Jordan went to war with Israel, the war would be over in a matter of weeks, and the relatively opulent government of Jordan would be replaced by a rag tag, extremist group like Hamas.

I'm sure the King of Jordan is quite happy with his wealth and power, and doesn't want to piss it away getting his ass handed to him in a war against Israel.

Again, Iraq is a perfect example. As soon as Sadam and co went down, the control went from this big, authoritative, to a decentralized, much more rough and ready terrorist based system.

Shit, even in Palestine, the same thing occured. By Israel focusing so much on disabling the PLO, they failed to realize that by kicking the legs out of a more centralized goverment, they'd give perfect opportunity for a less centralized, more violence/revenge based organization, who, if you remember, were once a minority agent of control, and now have the whole place under their thumb.

Here's a tip. When you indiscriminately execute violence against millions of people, its not the people shouting to turn the other cheek who gain political power. Shit, it works both ways, when rockets are falling on Israeli cities, no Israeli politician wants to be calling for a measured response. And does the violence stop? No, the only people who win here are the people who want the violence. I.e. Hamas, who benefit massively from Israeli attacks in terms of support and recruitment, and Israeli politicians who benefit in votes from people who want to see a violent, "disproportionate" response, and the IDF.

Seriously, enough with the persecution complex, you're not being oppressed by the arab hordes anymore.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »



Surely homogenization would mean peace then?

When there are only Palisraelians around, there isn't any enemy to fight.

And you can hardly talk about the historical record of Israel.

Its only been around for 60 odd years, and as I already mentioned, the procurement of nuclear weapons changes the whole dynamic.

No heavy top down political organization would risk war with a nuclear power.

You can't destroy political control. If Jordan went to war with Israel, the war would be over in a matter of weeks, and the relatively opulent government of Jordan would be replaced by a rag tag, extremist group like Hamas.

I'm sure the King of Jordan is quite happy with his wealth and power, and doesn't want to piss it away getting his ass handed to him in a war against Israel.

Again, Iraq is a perfect example. As soon as Sadam and co went down, the control went from this big, authoritative, to a decentralized, much more rough and ready terrorist based system.

Shit, even in Palestine, the same thing occured. By Israel focusing so much on disabling the PLO, they failed to realize that by kicking the legs out of a more centralized goverment, they'd give perfect opportunity for a less centralized, more violence/revenge based organization, who, if you remember, were once a minority agent of control, and now have the whole place under their thumb.

Here's a tip. When you indiscriminately execute violence against millions of people, its not the people shouting to turn the other cheek who gain political power. Shit, it works both ways, when rockets are falling on Israeli cities, no Israeli politician wants to be calling for a measured response. And does the violence stop? No, the only people who win here are the people who want the violence. I.e. Hamas, who benefit massively from Israeli attacks in terms of support and recruitment, and Israeli politicians who benefit in votes from people who want to see a violent, "disproportionate" response, and the IDF.

Seriously, enough with the persecution complex, you're not being oppressed by the arab hordes anymore.

No. Intermarriage would lead to more violence. As long as Israelis do stuff that is deserving of punishment, they will be punished.

Some one will come up and begin harassing the Israelis. Theres no lack of contenders.

We do have free will, insofar as we can make good or bad decisions, but our will is not totally free in that we can escape the cultures we were brought up in. As such, the lands surrounding Israel do not have free will not not harass the Israelis untill the Israelis begin becoming more religious. This is not a military matter. Its an entirely spiritual problem, and the solution is spiritual as well.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 12:32:57 PM »

No. Intermarriage would lead to more violence. As long as Israelis do stuff that is deserving of punishment, they will be punished.

Some one will come up and begin harassing the Israelis. Theres no lack of contenders.

We do have free will, insofar as we can make good or bad decisions, but our will is not totally free in that we can escape the cultures we were brought up in. As such, the lands surrounding Israel do not have free will not not harass the Israelis untill the Israelis begin becoming more religious. This is not a military matter. Its an entirely spiritual problem, and the solution is spiritual as well.

You already said that shit, and I already addressed that no other country with a centralized power structure is going to do shit to Israel, what with it having nukes and a massive military budget and all.

This ain't 1948, the game is changed, Israel are the big boys now.

Also, if you really do think Jordan, Syria, Egypt, or whoever is going to start attacking Israel sooner or later, what the fuck are they waiting for?

You would think if they were planning on doing it, they wouldn't wait till conflict with Palestine is over, and you'd think Israel invading Gaza, or when they did Lebanon, would have been the perfect time to use an excuse for an invasion.

But no, you don't think, you just have a victim complex like you and a bunch of other Israelis/Israeli identifiers.

If you really think the reason there are so many palestinian attacks on Israel is because of "religious differences", you're more deluded than i thought.

The only possible "contender", is Lebanon, as Hezbollah are in a similar situation to what Hamas was way back when. Hezbollah is already in a much stronger position after the 2006 Lebanon invasion.

 All it would take is another invasion, or some heavy sanctions, and Hezbollah could become a dominant political force, just like Hamas and in that case, they probably would attack Israel, as Israel retaliating is highly beneficial for organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. They don't rely on many resources or control structure, and having people pissed off at Israel and willing to die to hurt Israelis is more valuable than a whole bunch of rockets.

Hamas and Hezbollah work on the same victim complex Israeli politicians like to exploit. Funny how both sides say they're under attack from an oppressor, and the people who are saying that are always saying that more violence is the solution. Its almost as if they have a vested interest in the violence continuing.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 11:33:10 PM »



You already said that shit, and I already addressed that no other country with a centralized power structure is going to do shit to Israel, what with it having nukes and a massive military budget and all.

This ain't 1948, the game is changed, Israel are the big boys now.

Also, if you really do think Jordan, Syria, Egypt, or whoever is going to start attacking Israel sooner or later, what the fuck are they waiting for?

You would think if they were planning on doing it, they wouldn't wait till conflict with Palestine is over, and you'd think Israel invading Gaza, or when they did Lebanon, would have been the perfect time to use an excuse for an invasion.

But no, you don't think, you just have a victim complex like you and a bunch of other Israelis/Israeli identifiers.

If you really think the reason there are so many palestinian attacks on Israel is because of "religious differences", you're more deluded than i thought.

The only possible "contender", is Lebanon, as Hezbollah are in a similar situation to what Hamas was way back when. Hezbollah is already in a much stronger position after the 2006 Lebanon invasion.

 All it would take is another invasion, or some heavy sanctions, and Hezbollah could become a dominant political force, just like Hamas and in that case, they probably would attack Israel, as Israel retaliating is highly beneficial for organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. They don't rely on many resources or control structure, and having people pissed off at Israel and willing to die to hurt Israelis is more valuable than a whole bunch of rockets.

Hamas and Hezbollah work on the same victim complex Israeli politicians like to exploit. Funny how both sides say they're under attack from an oppressor, and the people who are saying that are always saying that more violence is the solution.Its almost as if they have a vested interest in the violence continuing.


Are you able to tie your own shoelaces? Seriously, I sometimes think you are mentally impaired, but you go ahead and write posts like this, and my thoughts are confirmed. Let me explain in a way that even you can understand.

First off, its annoying to see you swear all the time. Do you have finger tourettes?

I know its not 1948, but Iran was not in the picture till now. What are the other countries waiting for? They dont have totally free will. They will be used to attack the Israelis if peace is made with the Palestinians because the Israelis have not yet changed enough to warrant an end to the attacks.

I never said anything that could be construed to be an Israeli sympathizer, but we all probably all the same to you anyways. I have no victim complex, and see things very objectively. Probably more so then anyone else here.

Where did I talk about religious differences?

Guess what, I didn't. You read that in because you are an idiot. I said something very different: that Israelis are not nearly religious enough to stop the attacks.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 11:52:52 AM »



You already said that shit, and I already addressed that no other country with a centralized power structure is going to do shit to Israel, what with it having nukes and a massive military budget and all.

This ain't 1948, the game is changed, Israel are the big boys now.

Also, if you really do think Jordan, Syria, Egypt, or whoever is going to start attacking Israel sooner or later, what the fuck are they waiting for?

You would think if they were planning on doing it, they wouldn't wait till conflict with Palestine is over, and you'd think Israel invading Gaza, or when they did Lebanon, would have been the perfect time to use an excuse for an invasion.

But no, you don't think, you just have a victim complex like you and a bunch of other Israelis/Israeli identifiers.

If you really think the reason there are so many palestinian attacks on Israel is because of "religious differences", you're more deluded than i thought.

The only possible "contender", is Lebanon, as Hezbollah are in a similar situation to what Hamas was way back when. Hezbollah is already in a much stronger position after the 2006 Lebanon invasion.

 All it would take is another invasion, or some heavy sanctions, and Hezbollah could become a dominant political force, just like Hamas and in that case, they probably would attack Israel, as Israel retaliating is highly beneficial for organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. They don't rely on many resources or control structure, and having people pissed off at Israel and willing to die to hurt Israelis is more valuable than a whole bunch of rockets.

Hamas and Hezbollah work on the same victim complex Israeli politicians like to exploit. Funny how both sides say they're under attack from an oppressor, and the people who are saying that are always saying that more violence is the solution.Its almost as if they have a vested interest in the violence continuing.


Are you able to tie your own shoelaces? Seriously, I sometimes think you are mentally impaired, but you go ahead and write posts like this, and my thoughts are confirmed. Let me explain in a way that even you can understand.

First off, its annoying to see you swear all the time. Do you have finger tourettes?

I know its not 1948, but Iran was not in the picture till now. What are the other countries waiting for? They dont have totally free will. They will be used to attack the Israelis if peace is made with the Palestinians because the Israelis have not yet changed enough to warrant an end to the attacks.

I never said anything that could be construed to be an Israeli sympathizer, but we all probably all the same to you anyways. I have no victim complex, and see things very objectively. Probably more so then anyone else here.

Where did I talk about religious differences?

Guess what, I didn't. You read that in because you are an idiot. I said something very different: that Israelis are not nearly religious enough to stop the attacks.

Well if its not religion, what is it that makes you think all the surrounding countries are going to want to attack israel?

They just hate jews?

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I never said anything that could be construed to be an Israeli sympathizer, but we all probably all the same to you anyways. I have no victim complex, and see things very objectively. Probably more so then anyone else here.

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I know its not 1948, but Iran was not in the picture till now. What are the other countries waiting for? They dont have totally free will. They will be used to attack the Israelis if peace is made with the Palestinians because the Israelis have not yet changed enough to warrant an end to the attacks.

Iran? Are you fucking kidding me?

If a crumbling USSR which had spent millions on nuclear armament wasn't willing to use, what makes you think any centralized government (like Iran) is going to attack any other government that has nukes? Especially since Iran is no where near the size of USSR and America would definitely get involved if Iran nuked Israel.

Funny, Jordan, Egypt, Syria have all left Israel well the fuck alone after the 1948 war. Are they really biding their time like some evil genuises? Or do the rulers of those countries know better to fuck with a country that has nukes and the backing of America?

I'm sure there'll be more terrorist attacks on Israel, but thats not the same as an invasion from a sovereign state.

So first off, who is going to be using these countries (that don't have free will) to attack Israel?

And why do they want to wait till Palestine is at peace with Israel?

Surely if they want to destroy Israel, theres a better chance when Israel is tied up with Hamas or Hezbollah?

Considering you were meant said you were going to "explain in a way that even you can understand", you're not making anything very clear.

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They will be used to attack the Israelis if peace is made with the Palestinians because the Israelis have not yet changed enough to warrant an end to the attacks.

I'm going to assume thats some veiled talk for "Israel are going to be attacked because they won't get tough with terrorists", so feel free to correct me since you made it about as clear as mud.

I still don't see why "they" (whoever they are) would want to wait for Israel to be at peace with Palestine before attacking.

So Syria, Jordan, Egypt, all at peace with Israel for years, then as soon as peace breaks out, someone is going to use on of those countries to start attacking Israel again?

You really don't think all the Palestinian attacks on Israel are more to do with the fact that there has been a huge land dispute, combined with border walls, sanctions and military conflict for the last 60 years?

I guess islamic terrorists just play musical chairs with Israel though. As soon as Israel makes peace with one nation, the terrorists will all run over to the next nation and start launching rockets from there.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 01:41:57 AM »

Israel has been failing its mission that G-d put Jews on earth for,

What is the mission?
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 05:43:02 PM »


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Funny, Jordan, Egypt, Syria have all left Israel well the fuck alone after the 1948 war

lul wat

yeah history isn't my strong point. I'll readily admit to assuming shit on the spot if it suits my argument.

What I should have said was funny how Jordan, Egypt, and Syria left Israel the fuck alone after Israel obtained nukes, shortly after the 1967 6 day war that involved syria, jordan and egypt.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 07:55:17 PM »

Israel has been failing its mission that G-d put Jews on earth for,

What is the mission?

To live Torah true lives, and do the will of G-d.
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