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The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?

Limited Government Libertarian
- 75 (28.3%)
Minarchist
- 50 (18.9%)
Free Market Retributionist
- 33 (12.5%)
Free Market Reparationist
- 45 (17%)
Self Defense Libertarian
- 35 (13.2%)
Pacifist
- 9 (3.4%)
None of the Above
- 18 (6.8%)

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #90 on: March 08, 2006, 06:36:12 PM »

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   It doesn't matter which kind of Lazy-tarian you are. They all get nothing done.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #91 on: March 08, 2006, 09:02:39 PM »

Anarcho-Capitalist.  Bet y'all are surprised at that.   8)
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #92 on: March 14, 2006, 02:41:34 PM »

Rights require some serious consideration on how they are supported/enforced, which is the downside to the state. Rights are not magical: If the rights of group A come from the Rights of group B, then group B is likely not going to appreciate said Rights.

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those granting the rights would recognize the person who was paying for them on the individual level, which is one of the stronger arguements for Anarcho-Capitalism.

These two arguments are contradictory. Democratic governments have the same incentives to recognize rights as these organizations would.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2006, 07:09:28 PM »

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   It doesn't matter which kind of Lazy-tarian you are. They all get nothing done.

So have you done anything other than blah blah blah about this and that?  Think about it you could be 100% correct in everyone of your beliefs and you have spread the news, well now what?  What are you doing about anything other than posting to the internet?  Is it your plan to wear the Guy Fawks mask?  Or are you going to curl up in a bunker somewhere waiting for the end of civilization?
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #94 on: March 14, 2006, 09:05:20 PM »

Democratic governments have the same incentives to recognize rights as these organizations would.

How did you reach the conclusion that theft is the same as trade?
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2006, 11:29:10 PM »

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2006, 04:43:46 PM »

How did you reach the conclusion that theft is the same as trade?

Read, comprehend, then post.
Feel free to formulate another reply when you actually understand the conversation you are entering into.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2006, 05:57:29 PM »

I do understand the conversation. Again, how did you reach the conclusion that theft is the same as trade?
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2006, 07:42:21 PM »

What's MobileDigit mean, anyway. Are you texting from a cell?
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2006, 08:01:33 PM »

I mean that governments do not have the same incentives to recognize rights that business does.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2006, 08:16:47 PM »

I mean that governments do not have the same incentives to recognize rights that business does.

I disagree. Votes are to a politician as money is to a businessman.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2006, 08:33:53 PM »

I mean that governments do not have the same incentives to recognize rights that business does.

I disagree. Votes are to a politician as money is to a businessman.

If 90% of the population votes to elect a politician who will infringe the rights of the other 10%, there's not much that 10% can do (working within the system, at least) to change it.

If 90% of the population chooses Acme Protection Agency, that has no effect whatsoever on the other 10% who choose to contract with someone else, or no one at all.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2006, 08:46:24 PM »

If 90% of the population votes to elect a politician who will infringe the rights of the other 10%, there's not much that 10% can do (working within the system, at least) to change it.

History says otherwise.

In addition, laws limit how power can be used.

If 90% of the population chooses Acme Protection Agency, that has no effect whatsoever on the other 10% who choose to contract with someone else, or no one at all.

Sure it does. If those 10% have a "dispute" with the 90%, they will have to deal with Acme Protection Agency. What happens if they have discriminatory policies towards that 10%, especially those that don't have an agency behind them?
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2006, 02:11:33 AM »

If 90% of the population votes to elect a politician who will infringe the rights of the other 10%, there's not much that 10% can do (working within the system, at least) to change it.

History says otherwise.

In addition, laws limit how power can be used.

Because the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, States' rights, and laws about Congress officially declaring a war before fighting it are doing a wonderful job of limiting Federal power.


If 90% of the population chooses Acme Protection Agency, that has no effect whatsoever on the other 10% who choose to contract with someone else, or no one at all.

Sure it does. If those 10% have a "dispute" with the 90%, they will have to deal with Acme Protection Agency. What happens if they have discriminatory policies towards that 10%, especially those that don't have an agency behind them?

Yes, if 100 people who all happen to use the minority agency get in a dispute with 100 people who all happen to use the Acme Agency, chances are that Acme's policies etc. will be used primarily.

Also, if such a vast majority of the population were with one Agency, it must do business damn well. If the small one were much better, it would have more customers. Maybe the smaller agency specializes, say, in being a Protection Agency for people with handicaps.

That said, with Protection Agencies, you have a choice. The agency does not come to your house, impose its will upon you,and make you pay for its services "for your own good." That, I believe, is the heart of the matter.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #104 on: March 16, 2006, 05:06:14 AM »

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The agency does not come to your house, impose its will upon you,and make you pay for its services "for your own good." That, I believe, is the heart of the matter.

that is because you (like many others here) are under the false impression that beyond a certain point (Locke's proviso) force is NOT inherent in dominion over a specific territory even in the absence of any government.
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