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The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?

Limited Government Libertarian
- 75 (28.3%)
Minarchist
- 50 (18.9%)
Free Market Retributionist
- 33 (12.5%)
Free Market Reparationist
- 45 (17%)
Self Defense Libertarian
- 35 (13.2%)
Pacifist
- 9 (3.4%)
None of the Above
- 18 (6.8%)

Total Members Voted: 81


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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2006, 11:56:06 AM »

I hit minarchist by mistake, and won't let me change my vote. It should have been Limited Government Libertarian..

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2006, 01:37:47 PM »

Why does one need to be a Libertarian?
What works for you may not work for somrone else.
So what makes you think your way is so much better?

I don't think there is anything wrong with being just yourself

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2006, 06:12:10 PM »

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being yourself.  What's wrong is trying to use the government to force things onto other people.  And that's what nearly everyone, except for libertarians and anarchists, does.

Just in the other thread you were supporting the government making it harder for people to buy cold medicine.  Hello?  If I have a cold, I want a way to get better or feel better!
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2006, 07:30:04 PM »

So what makes you think your way is so much better?

Well, to answer your question:

What works for you may not work for somrone else.

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2006, 10:13:13 AM »

Minarchist, except for the nonsense about government initiating force against competition.

I'm very concerned about DROs and reputation agencies that have been suggested by anarchists. I want a society that gives me more freedom (including privacy and anonymity when needed), not less.

All libertarians agree in reducing the size of government, but instead of 6 types, there are >10 million individuals. Each has different areas where they are hesitant to go straight from huge government to no government, except for the most extreme anarchists. So there is a transition, and I suggest this transition to less government is tested on a competitive basis. Eliminate a government function in different ways and allow the marketplace to develop solutions. I think the best "first round" of this transition is devolving federal functions to the states. Some states will have just as much regulation and power, but some (NH!) should devolve even further, to the county, community, and hopefully, the individual. I suspect the freest states will have the best results, but there is concern, even from libertarians, that the populace has been so dumbed down they are not ready for 100% responsibility. A competitive system of reducing government allows the best ways of the devolution to flourish.

I may end up being an anarchist, but I don’t think it will happen to the benefit of society until all of us raised as slaves to the state die off, and new generations of our educated, responsible grandchildren take personal charge.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2006, 11:03:01 AM »

I think the best "first round" of this transition is devolving federal functions to the states. Some states will have just as much regulation and power, but some (NH!) should devolve even further, to the county, community, and hopefully, the individual.

this is exactly what the Second Vermont Republic is proposing as described in the book "The Vermont Papers"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0930031318/104-7466541-7699965?v=glance&n=283155

for our recent vermont independence party (jan. 14th) we had the authors of the book come and speak while it was filmed by a TV crew from Quebec.

the politics are non-partisan league and the economics are mutualist, distributist/agrarian, georgist, bio-regionalist.

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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2006, 10:38:24 PM »

I don't like all these labels.
I prefer to just say that I want liberty for all.
If anyone needs more clarification then I can have a conversation about it.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2006, 11:31:58 PM »

Labels allow for "more clarification" without a conversation.

Of course, labels aren't prefect. But they are invaluable to language.

This whole issue of Ideologies can be traced back to the post-french revolution/post napoleon era. Socialism, Nationalism, 19th Century Conservatism, and 19th Century Liberalism. One might also throw romanticism in there.

It's usually not very hard to give ideologies definitions because, by their political nature, they have goals and aims and this aids in defining them. However, when we dive into them as we are Libertarianism, we get this problem because the aims are often the same, but the details (some details larger than others) differ. Someone always feels left out and what not. It is a good thing that we have a language that is flexible and changable.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2006, 11:34:10 PM »

I basically just get annoyed at figuring out what category I'm in.
What can I say?
I have OCD or something.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2006, 11:51:36 PM »

Free Market Reparationist
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2006, 11:52:32 PM »

I basically just get annoyed at figuring out what category I'm in.
What can I say?
I have OCD or something.

Heh, I think there are basically two categories. You can either be an anarchist or a statist. Anything inbetween is indecisive.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2006, 12:30:37 AM »

Indivisualist or Collectivist would work as well I guess.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2006, 12:55:43 AM »

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Heh, I think there are basically two categories. You can either be an anarchist or a statist. Anything inbetween is indecisive.

I think this may be a little off. I would agree with Puke's assesment. Collectivist or Individualist would be better terminology.

I think I'm going to devise my own political specturm one day soon here.
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Re: The 6 types of Libertarians, which are you?
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2006, 04:10:21 PM »

Anarcho-capitalist.  Sweet, sweet liberty.
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