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Free Talk Live => The Polling Pit => Topic started by: FTL_Ian on February 22, 2008, 05:35:56 PM
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As the purpose of the shrine is to show off, particularly to radio program directors, that women listen to the show, should we ban babies from the shrine?
This may upset the few parents that have taken the time to photograph their babies for the shrine, but the fact is babies can't really listen to the show as much as they can hear it.
I'm thinking that the requirement should be that the submitter need be old enough to send us her own photo.
Your thoughts?
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If you are playing FTL for you infant baby, that shows a level of fandom that simply baring 3/4 of your your boobies can never match.
SAVE THE BABIES!!!
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How about a baby shrine?
(http://sharonjason.smugmug.com/photos/146190270_i2mpT-L.jpg)
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Fuckin' Sakal CAI is everywhere! Soon, there will be a video game starring Sakal CAI as the evil world-domineering super monopoly conglomerate.
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Sakal CAI are my favorite group of baby molesters.
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Aren't baby girls eligible for the shrine anyway?
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Well, If you're using it as something to show off to possible affiliates, I'd say drop he babies (figuratively, of coarse). You want to stay as professional as possible. Babies may be good for an 'awww, ain't she cute?' from time to time, but it's not something program managers are gunna like.
IDK, I rambled a bit too much.
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Fuckin' Sakal CAI is everywhere! Soon, there will be a video game starring Sakal CAI as the evil world-domineering super monopoly conglomerate.
Maybe we should change the logo...
(http://prairieflounder.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/100px-umbrella_corporation_logo.thumbnail.gif)
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This may upset the few parents that have taken the time to photograph their babies for the shrine, but the fact is babies can't really listen to the show as much as they can hear it.
Imagine Mom telling the baby that it's time to turn on Mr. Ian and Mr. Mark and listen to them talk about FREEDOM. What a great first word for any baby. And then you go from there.
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Didn't this come up a couple years back?
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...women listen to the show, should we ban babies from the shrine?
I think I see what you are asking.
Ian, I think that when people send photos to be on the shrine, the "shriner" should be in the photo. If said photo includes a baby with the mother, no problems.
But, a solo baby?
I agree, they should not be there.
The baby shrine is an interesting idea. People can make that a separate site or forum from this BBS any time they wish.
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A poll has been added to the thread.
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I suggest a ratio - only one baby for every thirty ladies.
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Aren't baby girls eligible for the shrine anyway?
Given the oft repeated, women of all ages, shapes, sizes, etc... this would be my understanding.
Of course, people who are against the nanny state hate babies, so should we really be surprised by this proposed ban? :wink:
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What? Ban babes? But the whole point of the shrine is to show off the babes that listen to FTL!
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Ban baby! Ban baby! Ban baby!
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save the babies
remember the old saying
make babies not communism
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I like babies. Let the babies listen.
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I'm fine with babies. As long as they're not tarbabies.
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Just make another shrine called, Babies.Freetalklive.com
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Drop them babies! :) Or rename the shrine to Shrine of Femalaby listeners. I'd say if a mom is in the pic with a baby, keep it. If it is only a baby, remove it.
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Drop them babies! :) Or rename the shrine to Shrine of Femalaby listeners. I'd say if a mom is in the pic with a baby, keep it. If it is only a baby, remove it.
your just mad because those babies get more breast time than you. leave the babies alone
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I'd say that if the mother wants to include her baby in her Shrine photo, all is well - but I do agree that a baby by itself is rather puzzling in the FTL shrine. It might not like FTL. :-P
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Drop them babies! :) Or rename the shrine to Shrine of Femalaby listeners. I'd say if a mom is in the pic with a baby, keep it. If it is only a baby, remove it.
your just mad because those babies get more breast time than you. leave the babies alone
I say drop 'em! :lol:
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Also an advantage of having a babies.freetalklive.com shrine would be that Mark gets to post pictures of Jack, and you can show that you have a family demographic as well.
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Also an advantage of having a babies.freetalklive.com shrine would be that Mark gets to post pictures of Jack, and you can show that you have a family demographic as well.
+1
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Which one of you gals wants to have my baby?
As the moderator of this forum, I think I speak for just about everyone here when I say:
No.
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Which one of you gals wants to have my baby?
As the moderator of this forum, I think I speak for just about everyone here when I say:
No.
Just because yer the moderator doesn't mean anything when it comes to these things.
The primary reason is because I happen to know that most women here are laughing at you as they read this. :P
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Sakal should drop sponsorship if FTL bans babies.
Especially when they submit a pic.
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I love babies, but what is the purpose of the shrine? Isn't it to show girls that other girls think it's cool to listen to FTL. I don't think girls would care one way or the other whether there were a few babies on the sight. Is it mainly guys who are complaining that there are babies on the site?
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Is it mainly guys who are complaining that there are babies on the site?
It is mostly guys without babies complaining...
... the exact demographic least relevant to the Shrine (sheesh, we already know you listen to FTL)
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I don't have a problem with babies being included in the Shrine.
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It is mostly guys without babies complaining...
... the exact demographic least relevant to the Shrine (sheesh, we already know you listen to FTL)
YEAH! Fuck the sun!!
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Is it mainly guys who are complaining that there are babies on the site?
I have two girls.
My reply was from a business aspect of this. The shrine is for Ian to direct new advertisers and potentially new stations to and show them that it's not just a male oriented show.
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I think Ian should make the decision based on his selfish business interests, not democratic mob rule. Of course, that would match nicely with my selfish interest in seeing the ideas of liberty spread to more stations.
You can start a babys.freetalklive.com or whatever.
Still, really, I don't care.
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God how trivial
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I know Ian is a misopedist, but banning babies from the shrine? That's just ridiculous!
I mean if there is actually some station manager out there who looks at the shrine and thinks the babies don't belong or that they deceptively pump up the number of female listeners or anything like that, then they are morons, and FTL should boycott being on their station anyway.
Save the babies! The more babies raised libertarian the better!
(I'd send a picture of mine in, but they are all boys, so they don't qualify.)
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How about a baby shrine?
2nd that.
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How about a baby shrine?
2nd that.
I hope this doesn't turn out like the times people start suggesting male shrines. This is gonna turn in to an everybody shrine, and it won't be special anymore...or have a point, really.
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(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/444358937_bd3ce9b1c9.jpg)
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Unless you bitches can beat this, keep your little booger-diggers away.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/junkinessblog/images670146_AngelinaJolie_Maddox15.jpg)
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As I see it, the shrine fits 2 purposes:
1) For the general FTL audience to see diverse and often attractive liberty loving listeners and
2) To show people in the radio industry that the show caters to and has an active female listenership
A photo of a baby accomplishes neither of these. And to me, a baby isn't really male or female anyway. It's asexual.
When you look through pictures of the shriners, you see photos of women from all walks of life who enjoy listeneing to FTL. You can look through the shrine and sometimes read the brief comments and imagine: this student, this mother, this lawyer, etc. listening to the show. If I see a picture of a baby, I think, oh wow, it's someone's baby. So what?
Furthermore, I'd agree with Ian that one should be able to take one's own photo before it's admitted to the shrine. Think of it this way--how would you like it if YOUR parents posted pictures of you up on some pro-socialist website when you were a child? Or anywhere else with a message that went against your views? Hell, it's bad enough that they got me an SSN !
And if babies are allowed, we'll get into the whole Bridget transvestite argument again, because someone will post a pic of a male baby and start a whole new controversy...
I know Ian's smart enough not to simply "go with the majority" but keep in mind there is a large portion of people here who will be against any kind of "ban" or "restriction" just because they're total anarchists :P
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Ban the diaper-wearing droolers! They provide zero listener/surfer stimulation. We check the Shrine for pictures of HOT women. (We might better spend our time coming up with a rating system for those over 18).
My .02... King Tut ruled an entire kingdom when he was 10, and you know he had tons of hot ladies, as many as he wanted, anytime, anyplace, any position. So, if you can rule a country at 10, and pick out hot chicks for your harem, that should be the minimum age to submit your photo. At that age, one can obviously use their own brain to decide that listening to FTL is a kick ass way to spend some time. No TNA shots from those under 18 please. Don't get Ian arrested!
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King Tut ruled an entire kingdom when he was 10, and you know he had tons of hot ladies, as many as he wanted, anytime, anyplace, any position.
Sounds like child molestation.
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How about a baby shrine?
(http://sharonjason.smugmug.com/photos/146190270_i2mpT-L.jpg)
Tomorrow's FARK Headline: FTL Fan Kills Child: Posing For Shrine Photo
Serious Head Injuries Prompt Recall of Bumbo Baby Sitter Seats
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html)
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Ban the diaper-wearing droolers! They provide zero listener/surfer stimulation. We check the Shrine for pictures of HOT women. (We might better spend our time coming up with a rating system for those over 18).
My .02... King Tut ruled an entire kingdom when he was 10, and you know he had tons of hot ladies, as many as he wanted, anytime, anyplace, any position. So, if you can rule a country at 10, and pick out hot chicks for your harem, that should be the minimum age to submit your photo. At that age, one can obviously use their own brain to decide that listening to FTL is a kick ass way to spend some time. No TNA shots from those under 18 please. Don't get Ian arrested!
There are all kinds of women on the shrine. They don't HAVE to be hot. It's always been stated that it's not a beauty contest of any kind, so I don't like the idea of ratings.
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I'd say if the babies are removed, that the remover is probably a bigoted ageist.
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I'd say if the babies are removed, that the remover is probably a bigoted ageist.
I'd say that's a little extreme, to be completely honest. I voted "I don't care" because I don't. I don't feel like the presence of infants on the shrine is helping anything, nor is it hindering anything. It's just a baby. A male baby, I could understand not allowing on the shrine...because it's male. But, in the immortal words of my drunken co-worker Amanda: "Whatever motherfucker".
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I think I'm gonna get a total fuckslut who doesn't care about the show at all to sit on my lap and hold the sign, just so I can be in there.
Maybe I'll do it over and over, with dozens of different bimbos.
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I think I'm gonna get a total fuckslut who doesn't care about the show at all to sit on my lap and hold the sign, just so I can be in there.
Maybe I'll do it over and over, with dozens of different bimbos.
Funny, I was thinking of doing the same thing.
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I think I'm gonna get a total fuckslut who doesn't care about the show at all to sit on my lap and hold the sign, just so I can be in there.
Maybe I'll do it over and over, with dozens of different bimbos.
Funny, I was thinking of doing the same thing.
First to a hundred wins a lifetime supply of internets.
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A male baby, I could understand not allowing on the shrine...because it's male.
But my point is how are you going to know whether the baby is a male or female? They look the same to me. Babies are asexual until they hit puberty. And someone will start posting male "imposter" baby pictures and we will have another Bridget scandal.
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A male baby, I could understand not allowing on the shrine...because it's male.
But my point is how are you going to know whether the baby is a male or female? They look the same to me. Babies are asexual until they hit puberty. And someone will start posting male "imposter" baby pictures and we will have another Bridget scandal.
I understand and agree with your point, in fact - I've been leaning toward the side to eliminate babies from the shrine the entire time. It's just such a trivial issue that I can't really bring myself to argue about it. They're babies, let it go.
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Serious Head Injuries Prompt Recall of Bumbo Baby Sitter Seats
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html)
That Bumpo recall was absurd. Parents were putting them on the kitchen counter and babies were tumbling to their death. So what they did was recall all of them and then shipped them back with a label that said something like "Do not place Bumpo chair on counter, dumb ass."
Morons. I say the dead babies got off easy if they were being raised by parents who were that stupid.
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Serious Head Injuries Prompt Recall of Bumbo Baby Sitter Seats
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08046.html)
That Bumpo recall was absurd. Parents were putting them on the kitchen counter and babies were tumbling to their death. So what they did was recall all of them and then shipped them back with a label that said something like "Do not place Bumpo chair on counter, dumb ass."
Morons. I say the dead babies got off easy if they were being raised by parents who were that stupid.
I think that goes for a lot of these recalls. Its like the lead paint on toys - I think the parents would have to force-feed the toys to their children on a daily basis for them to get enough lead to hurt them. But people are acting like the government should go to war with China over it.
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No TNA shots from those under 18 please.
Do you also say "for all intensive purposes" or "all tolled"? Just curious.
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Tomorrow's FARK Headline: FTL Fan Kills Child: Posing For Shrine Photo
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3294/dumbassrs9.gif)
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:o
:lol:
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babies are cute. why would anyone care? They look and they see a baby and they go. "ahhhhh look at the cute baby' they certainly do not go one and on about how babies are not actually listening and all that other bullshit.
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When are we eating the babies?
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Babies can't possibly be getting included of their own volition.
Therefore, it is wrong to include babies.
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Babies can't possibly be getting included of their own volition.
Therefore, it is wrong to include babies.
We have a winner, folks.
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If you're using the shrine as a sell point for program directors, I don't think many stations are really fighting to dominate the under-2 female demographic. They don't buy much, and "Bababababababa pbbbbbbt!" isn't a very thought-provoking call-in topic.
Then again, wasn't it Patrick Henry who said, "I regret that I have but one diaper to soil for my country"? No, wait, I think that was Strom Thurmond. Never mind.
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babies are cute. why would anyone care? They look and they see a baby and they go. "ahhhhh look at the cute baby' they certainly do not go one and on about how babies are not actually listening and all that other bullshit.
Do not generalize the opinion that babies are cute. I do not find babies cute in the slightest, and when I see one, my first thought is "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SCREAM" if it's currently quiet, or if it's screaming I think "PLEASE STOP SCREAMING YOU LITTLE BLOB!". I know I'm out of the ordinary on that one, but I also know I'm not alone.
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No TNA shots from those under 18 please.
Do you also say "for all intensive purposes" or "all tolled"? Just curious.
He probably thinks TNA stands for Totally Nude Attributes or something.
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Babies can't possibly be getting included of their own volition.
Therefore, it is wrong to include babies.
We have a winner, folks.
I have to agree with this.
Although, in the ancap world, there could be reasons people might want to exhibit photos of their babies.
Let the market decide.
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I don't think you stand to lose much of your demographic prowess by including babies. I may be wrong, but I know that if I were to advertise through FTL, I'd be looking for who was listening, and baby pictures don't invalidate adult pictures.
Maybe you could pick up someone trying to reach mothers or parents. If you allow baby girls in the shrine, it'd catch those ad bucks without having to add an all-babies FTL shrine (as adorable and grotesque as that would be).
Including girl-babies is beyond the scope of intent for the shrine, but it seems like a "no harm, no foul" situation to me. Maybe you could just incentivize adult contributions ever so slightly.
Also, encourage nudity - it's nice to see cute babies and floppy saddlebags in one convenient location.
Edit: "Flopp E. Saddlebags" is my new Drag name.
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Do not generalize the opinion that babies are cute. I do not find babies cute in the slightest, and when I see one, my first thought is "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SCREAM" if it's currently quiet, or if it's screaming I think "PLEASE STOP SCREAMING YOU LITTLE BLOB!". I know I'm out of the ordinary on that one, but I also know I'm not alone.
<<HIGH FIVES LINDSEY>>
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HOT WATER BURN BABY, HOT WATER BURN BABY!
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Banned! Sorry to those who took the time to photograph their babies.
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Banned! Sorry to those who took the time to photograph their babies.
DAMN!!!!
Well that's it... my first girl-child will not be in yer damn shrine then :evil:
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Banned! Sorry to those who took the time to photograph their babies.
Excellent.
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Banned! Sorry to those who took the time to photograph their babies.
He's mad with power.
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I think that allowing babies to be in the shrine harbors motives to dress boy babies up like girls and possibly causing severe mental problems for the child in the future. I think they should shut the entire website down if this kind of garbage continues. Ban the babies now!
Speaking of the shrine if I dress up like a lady will you let me post my pictures?
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Speaking of the shrine if I dress up like a lady will you let me post my pictures?
if you can make 'em think you're a girl. it depends on how well you can pull it off.
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Challenge accepted.
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Very nice post with a ton of informative information. I really appreciate the fact that you approach these topics from a stand point of knowledge and information
instead of the typical “I think” mentality that you see so much on the internet these days.