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Should mentally challenged folk be removed from society by the State (or a private organization)?

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Taors

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Should retards be put to death?
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:58:05 AM »

I mean, they're just parasites, right? If they don't have anyone to take care of them, the State and therefore the taxpayers have to. If we just eliminated them, we would save a lot of money and decrease the population (always a good thing). It doesn't even have to be the State. Private organizations could round them up and liquidate them for a small fee. It'd be like people in Vietnam and Korea selling their daughters for extra cash...except now you're selling your retarded children to get rid of them.

Who's with me?
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 10:04:34 AM »

I like them cus they are happy.
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Alex Libman

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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 02:15:21 PM »

I do hold some eugenic views, but I don't take them that far.  It's a lot better to reduce the numbers of "useless feeders" by preventing them from being born in the first place, which would attend to itself given legalized abortion and proper market incentives (see also "Libertarian Sexual Morality" thread).  Every child that is at least 50% human (in the scenario of human/animal hybrids) should get the "Right to Life" from the point of physical autonomy (i.e. birth), but the Rights to Liberty or Property must, for obvious reasons, wait until s\he can be expected to act rationally.

I've written extensively in the past about the emancipation of minors to change the concept of "minimum age" laws (and facilitate adoption of children from unfit parents), but I still envisioned everyone getting automatically emancipated at a certain age (ex 18).  Perhaps some kind of a legal mechanism could be used to temporarily or permanently challenge automatic emancipation on the grounds of mental incapacity, in which case the parents or guardians of the child would be able to keep guardianship status indefinitely, or pass it to someone else.

Some organizations (for profit or not) might have certain requirements in exchange for accepting guardianship of that person, such as the right to encourage work (in exchange for rewards or avoidance of punishments).  Such organizations can in theory be cruel, but since they're privately funded they have to earn their donations and the trust of the parents / guardians, and that market would self-regulate.

So in a purely capitalist system, "retards" would be very valuable members of the community, taking on jobs that most people would not (and robots would be unfit for).  A retard would make a great sparring partner for martial arts, for example.  Rich people can hire them to dress up in funny costumes and entertain their guests by falling from high places.  And then there's the lucrative market for "cruelty free" cosmetics that, in keeping with their label, are not tested on animals.  Etc.  The possibilities are endless!  :twisted:
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 04:18:07 PM »

Every child that is at least 50% human
It's speciesists like you that make my blood boil.

So.... a hot 51% bonobo/ 49% homosapien chick with insatiable sex drive and giant boobies can be killed, just like that, just cause the bimbo ain't so bright?

Fuck you, man.

Time to start a revolution!

Alex Libman

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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 05:03:49 PM »

I opened up a can of worms with that offside remark...

OK, fine, if even one base pair in your DNA looks human, then you're human!

(And if even one bit on your hard drive looks like child porn, it's child porn!)

Who can say you need X base pairs?  How dare you discriminate against entities with X-1 base pairs?!

Don't you dare throw away your shower curtain!  There are trillions of tiny single-celled humans living on it!  :roll:

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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 05:53:08 PM »

Every child that is at least 50% human
It's speciesists like you that make my blood boil.

So.... a hot 51% bonobo/ 49% homosapien chick with insatiable sex drive and giant boobies can be killed, just like that, just cause the bimbo ain't so bright?

Fuck you, man.

Time to start a revolution!


Mmm, chimpanions, humanzees, and bimbonobos.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 07:09:25 PM »

Adolf HItler favored killing mentally challenged people too. It isn't right because they are people too. And besides, who gets to make the determination that a person is mentally challenged?
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 07:24:11 PM »

And besides, who gets to make the determination that a person is mentally challenged?

If they want to lock me up for having sex in public, then they fail.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 09:58:20 PM »

"Parasites" - maybe. But harmless ones. Wouldn't teh world be a finer place if we simply chose to "off" the harmful parasites instead?
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Taors

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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 10:21:01 PM »

And besides, who gets to make the determination that a person is mentally challenged?

DSM IV-TR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes

I wouldn't trust anything the APA says. Tyranny by scientists.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 02:21:17 AM »

And besides, who gets to make the determination that a person is mentally challenged?

DSM IV-TR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes

I wouldn't trust anything the APA says. Tyranny by scientists.

By quacks you mean. Oddly, that's what my psychology professor considered the APA most of the time. Then again he's biased toward experimental psychology and the like.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 03:57:55 AM »

"Parasites" - maybe. But harmless ones. Wouldn't teh world be a finer place if we simply chose to "off" the harmful parasites instead?

Yeah. Why bother mentalbating over the mentally underequipped when politicians still draw breath?
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2008, 04:01:55 AM »

"Parasites" - maybe. But harmless ones. Wouldn't teh world be a finer place if we simply chose to "off" the harmful parasites instead?

Yeah. Why bother mentalbating over the mentally underequipped when politicians still draw breath?


They shall be removed with time.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 10:47:02 PM »

Remember, the DSM in the past considered homosexuality a mental disorder.
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Re: Should retards be put to death?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 11:19:29 PM »

No one can honestly say that our society should execute the retarded.  As Martin Niemöller said "   

 "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

    And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

    And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

    And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."


Anyone who has posted that we murder the handicapped is simply trying to stir the pot here.  Oh... I guess I took the bait took.
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