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Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?

Yes, on an individual basis
- 10 (24.4%)
No
- 27 (65.9%)
Yes, through Absolute Democracy
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2007, 03:54:35 AM »

I suspect if they don't like being able to choose, they won't contribute at all.  We've seen that Ian has invited them to make that choice for themselves.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2007, 04:12:20 AM »

As long as I like this show, I will be glad to support it. I don't care about the details as where my money goes.

You may not, but what about the people that do?


Perhaps, one option would be to write an email to Ian requesting details.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2007, 04:32:28 AM »

I suspect if they don't like being able to choose, they won't contribute at all.  We've seen that Ian has invited them to make that choice for themselves.

Perhaps, one option would be to write an email to Ian requesting details.


Every extra step means less AMP money.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2007, 04:33:56 AM »

I think Ian's the guy you have to convince of that.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2007, 04:58:27 AM »

Possibly. Ian said "...AMP will stay as is. If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money."

If you request budget/amp spendings from Ian, but don't get it from him, you can always withdraw your donations. If a lot of people does the same (and I'm not suggesting it, because, again I have no problem how Ian spends money I've been donating), maybe Ian will be convinced that is smarter to run a report, then lose valuable amp donations. Budget of non-profits organizations, for example, is available to the public because it comes from grants and donations made by the public (individual donations, corporate donations, foundations, and unfortunately gov't grants). 
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2007, 08:14:15 AM »

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.
How would choosing how your AMP funds be spent not be a free market approach?

You started this with the proposal of absolute democracy, did you not?
The mention of a la carte menu choices came later in the thread.

a la carte  would allow Ian's & Mark's "customers" more choices, but would the costs in their time to set it up and manage it really be made up for by the percentage of people who want to specify their $3 go to project A & B, but not C?
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2007, 09:55:07 AM »

Personally I was never a fan of the AMP program.  It seems that the show is going in a "give us money! (you don't have to but we like it) direction. 

I like the show.  I AMP.  If the show and the concept becomes centered around sending Ian money, I will stop AMPing.  I'm sure that "promoting the show" is a vague definition of things, but if I thought it was being spent on lavish vacations, I wouldn't send him my money. 

Fuck it, if his head continues to swell, and he starts being a frivolous asshole, then I'll stop AMPing.  For now, he can do whatever he wants. 
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2007, 10:03:58 AM »

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.
How would choosing how your AMP funds be spent not be a free market approach?

You started this with the proposal of absolute democracy, did you not?
The mention of a la carte menu choices came later in the thread.

a la carte  would allow Ian's & Mark's "customers" more choices, but would the costs in their time to set it up and manage it really be made up for by the percentage of people who want to specify their $3 go to project A & B, but not C?

I think it seems pretty straightforward and simple to me.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2007, 10:40:09 AM »

It says right on the AMP page where they spend the money. Which part do you disagree with?
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2007, 11:42:38 AM »

It says right on the AMP page where they spend the money. Which part do you disagree with?

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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2007, 12:34:41 PM »

It says right on the AMP page where they spend the money. Which part do you disagree with?
That's not the point.  The point is that AMPing A La Carte could bring in new AMPers
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2007, 12:38:22 PM »

It says right on the AMP page where they spend the money. Which part do you disagree with?
That's not the point.  The point is that AMPing A La Carte could bring in new AMPers

It could also take money out of places where Ian thinks it's doing good and put it in less useful places where the whims of the AMPlifiers put it.  It looks like the number of people who want this is pretty low anyway, if the poll has any accuracy at all.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2007, 12:50:54 PM »

Joelberg is just a niggard who is worried that Ian and Mark just took a Bahamian vacation with his amp money.  There are three kinds of Jews in the world: Jews who worry about their money, Jews who care about and respect business, and Israelis.  Guess which one Joel is.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2007, 01:07:58 PM »

Why make it about being Jewish?  I'm really tired of ethnic hatred.
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Re: Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2007, 01:14:19 PM »

Yeah, I really hate Jews.   :roll:

(Hint: I am one.)
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