Should AMPers be able to choose how their money is spent?

Yes, on an individual basis

10 (24.4%)

No

27 (65.9%)

Yes, through Absolute Democracy

4 (9.8%)

Total Members Voted: 24

[Bill Brasky]

Bullshit. 

Leave 'em alone about it.  Once you give it away, its not yours anymore, so get over it.




What ever happened to having a little privacy?  Isn't that what we all want?  If you can warp such a minor issue into thinking you have some proprietary interest in peoples personal lives because you voluntarily participate by throwing a few bucks in the hat, you're missing the message completely.

[mikehz]

We already do decide how it's spent.  I choose to spend some of my money on AMP.  If I felt it was being misused, I would just cancel it.

I send my money to Ian in exchange for his show. I listen every day, but don't listen on the radio, and so don't get much in the way of commercials. After all, he isn't doing FTL as a charity.

What he choses to do with the money is his own business.

[MobileDigit]

You do not give someone something and then afterwards tell them what they can and cannot do with it. An agreement must be made beforehand.

How is this relevant? This is not what I am suggesting.

If you want to put conditions on your donations (i.e. I will amp x dollars for y cause) then tell Ian that you will only donate that money (x dollars) if it will be used for that purpose (y cause). Then Ian can choose to accept the money or not.

Why are you against having a systematic way to do this?

Okay, it's too much work.

How much additional money per month would it take to make it worth doing?

We already do decide how it's spent.  I choose to spend some of my money on AMP.  If I felt it was being misused, I would just cancel it.

How is this that deciding not to spend it is not deciding how it's spent?

What he choses to do with the money is his own business.

And I think that if he allowed people more control of the money he would make more money.

[freeAgent]

You do not give someone something and then afterwards tell them what they can and cannot do with it. An agreement must be made beforehand.

How is this relevant? This is not what I am suggesting.

If you want to put conditions on your donations (i.e. I will amp x dollars for y cause) then tell Ian that you will only donate that money (x dollars) if it will be used for that purpose (y cause). Then Ian can choose to accept the money or not.

Why are you against having a systematic way to do this?

Okay, it's too much work.

How much additional money per month would it take to make it worth doing?

We already do decide how it's spent.  I choose to spend some of my money on AMP.  If I felt it was being misused, I would just cancel it.

How is this that deciding not to spend it is not deciding how it's spent?

What he choses to do with the money is his own business.

And I think that if he allowed people more control of the money he would make more money.

My decision about how to decide how the money is spent when I make the decision to spend it...on AMP.  I have decided to spend it on AMP.  If I don't like the AMP service, then I won't spend my money on it.  That's the power of the market at work.

[voodoo]

We already do decide how it's spent.  I choose to spend some of my money on AMP.  If I felt it was being misused, I would just cancel it.

I send my money to Ian in exchange for his show. I listen every day, but don't listen on the radio, and so don't get much in the way of commercials. After all, he isn't doing FTL as a charity.

What he choses to do with the money is his own business.

Yep.  It's payment for the goods I received.  If he wants to throw it away on hookers and blow, I don't care.  If I did, I'd spend it myself.  On hookers and blow.

[error]

The AMP money is already earmarked for promoting the show. If you don't want Ian to promote the show, don't AMP. Seems like a pretty simple choice to me.

[FTL_Ian]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

[Laetitia]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.

[Bill Brasky]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Well, thank fucking god. 



I bet it sucks having to say that every six months or so.  But, hey.  I don't see many others producing a product that several hundred other people can get for free but will pay for it anyway. 


Rock on, brother. 

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.

How would choosing how your AMP funds be spent not be a free market approach?

[velojym]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.

How would choosing how your AMP funds be spent not be a free market approach?

It would be, if there were an agreement between you and FTL saying so. Otherwise, you are supporting the program based on what you should have already known before making the payments: They use it to support the show, in whatever way they decide is best.
Sounds pretty durned free-market to me, especially since it's totally voluntary, unlike... Socialist Insecurity...

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like a free market approach.

How would choosing how your AMP funds be spent not be a free market approach?

It would be, if there were an agreement between you and FTL saying so. Otherwise, you are supporting the program based on what you should have already known before making the payments: They use it to support the show, in whatever way they decide is best.
Sounds pretty durned free-market to me, especially since it's totally voluntary, unlike... Socialist Insecurity...

I agree.  But I like the idea of AMP A-La-Carte.  Even if the minimum price was still $3

[MobileDigit]

Yep.  AMP will stay as is.   If you don't think I'm making good decisions, don't send money.   

How much additional money per month would it take to make it worth doing?

[Gordee]

I believe that Ian and Mark wisely spend the amp dollars whether it's for a business trip, ads or something else. As long as I like this show, I will be glad to support it. I don't care about the details as where my money goes.

[MobileDigit]

As long as I like this show, I will be glad to support it. I don't care about the details as where my money goes.

You may not, but what about the people that do?