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what would you describe yourself as?

Roman Catholic
- 8 (8.2%)
Protestant
- 2 (2%)
Mormon
- 1 (1%)
Episcopal
- 2 (2%)
Some other branch of Christianity
- 10 (10.2%)
Muslim
- 1 (1%)
Agnostic
- 26 (26.5%)
Athiest (fight religion!)
- 18 (18.4%)
Athiest ("go with the flow")
- 16 (16.3%)
Judaism
- 2 (2%)
Any "Pagan" religeon
- 9 (9.2%)
Budhist
- 0 (0%)
Taoist
- 1 (1%)
Hindu
- 0 (0%)
Humanist
- 2 (2%)

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AlexLibman

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Re: Religion
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2006, 01:03:14 AM »

Humanism is a philosophy...it can be religious or secular, so I would say no. 

I disagree.  There are Humanist clubs that have weekly gatherings, publications, and an evolving common body of knowledge and traditions.

The concept of "Religion" is often assumed to imply mysticism, but when talking about new religious ideas that often isn't the case.  What it is instead is a "community philosophy", a shared and well-established tradition of thought and practice.

Life in the army might therefore be called a religion, because the solders share a lifestyle, a system of rules, and common activities.  If, like many of us, you spend 2-3 hours a day listening to FTL, and perhaps another hour on these forums, then one might say that FTL is our religion.   8)
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2006, 01:46:06 AM »

Humanism is a philosophy...it can be religious or secular, so I would say no. 

I disagree.  There are Humanist clubs that have weekly gatherings, publications, and an evolving common body of knowledge and traditions.

The concept of "Religion" is often assumed to imply mysticism, but when talking about new religious ideas that often isn't the case.  What it is instead is a "community philosophy", a shared and well-established tradition of thought and practice.

Life in the army might therefore be called a religion, because the solders share a lifestyle, a system of rules, and common activities.  If, like many of us, you spend 2-3 hours a day listening to FTL, and perhaps another hour on these forums, then one might say that FTL is our religion.   8)


Ha Ha! Imagine FTL as the opiate of the masses!
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2006, 09:56:39 AM »

It's funny that many of the same people who want to call humanism a religion also wish to deny that status to Unitarianism. Some Christians think the Unitarian Church ought to be denied tax-free status, on the grounds that it isn't a religion.

Do they also think various humanist organizations should be granted tax-free status?
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2006, 01:22:42 PM »

Positive Atheist and Metaphysical Naturalist here. ^_^

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AlexLibman

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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2006, 05:52:34 PM »

U.U. is a religion!

... made from other religions.

... first by castrating them (thus removing any disciplinary benefit they brought)

... then by putting them all in a blender (thus removing any cultural significance they had)

They're like kids who like to torture squirrels!
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2006, 09:48:53 AM »

Life in the army might therefore be called a religion, because the solders share a lifestyle, a system of rules, and common activities.  If, like many of us, you spend 2-3 hours a day listening to FTL, and perhaps another hour on these forums, then one might say that FTL is our religion.   8)

When "religion" is used that way, it's a metaphor.  I don't think you really want to make the definition that vague....it becomes effectively useless.  There needs to be a term for belief in a supernatural order which involves spirits or gods and prescribes a given moral system.
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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2006, 11:06:29 AM »

Life in the army might therefore be called a religion, because the solders share a lifestyle, a system of rules, and common activities.  If, like many of us, you spend 2-3 hours a day listening to FTL, and perhaps another hour on these forums, then one might say that FTL is our religion.   8)

When "religion" is used that way, it's a metaphor.  I don't think you really want to make the definition that vague....it becomes effectively useless.  There needs to be a term for belief in a supernatural order which involves spirits or gods and prescribes a given moral system.

You're right that when it's applied to that example, the word religion is used metaphorically, but I believe that it can be used to describe any system of dogmatic belief, usually based on tradition, faith in authority and usually some combination of both.
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As the state feeds off of the limitation and destruction of legitimate government, anarchy is its essence.

To claim "economic rent" from someone Else's labor when applied to land, which is something no one can own outright, is in itself, to claim landlord status over raw nature. It is an attempt at coercive monopoly power that is at the root of statism.

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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2006, 03:37:08 AM »

Christian and a Constitutionanlist. More so as someone whom's belief is in the Constitution. More so than the Bible. All though I believe that there is a GOD/Creator. And I do believe Christ died, a horrorable death. So I take the leap of Faith that he died for my sins. But you will never, ever see me Qoute the Bible. It may be god's word. But it was still Wrote by man. That's all I would like to say about my beliefs in a GOD.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2006, 04:09:17 AM »

You're right that when it's applied to that example, the word religion is used metaphorically, but I believe that it can be used to describe any system of dogmatic belief, usually based on tradition, faith in authority and usually some combination of both.
I think that to be a religion, faith is required. Believing in something that is rationally provable would not constitute faith, and by extension would not be religious. Faith is demonstrated by a belief that something is true without evidence, or despite evidence to the contrary.

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2006, 07:44:33 AM »

Christian and a Constitutionanlist. More so as someone whom's belief is in the Constitution. More so than the Bible. All though I believe that there is a GOD/Creator. And I do believe Christ died, a horrorable death. So I take the leap of Faith that he died for my sins. But you will never, ever see me Qoute the Bible. It may be god's word. But it was still Wrote by man. That's all I would like to say about my beliefs in a GOD.

When I was a Christian I didn't believe anything the Bible said. I don't see how anyone really could.
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2006, 02:50:21 PM »

Not a checkbox poll, so I can't answer accurately.

I'm an Agnostic, Humanist, Roman Catholic Buddhist.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2006, 03:42:59 PM »

You're right that when it's applied to that example, the word religion is used metaphorically, but I believe that it can be used to describe any system of dogmatic belief, usually based on tradition, faith in authority and usually some combination of both.
I think that to be a religion, faith is required. Believing in something that is rationally provable would not constitute faith, and by extension would not be religious. Faith is demonstrated by a belief that something is true without evidence, or despite evidence to the contrary.

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Religion doesn't have to be antithetical to reason.  Faith is belief without understanding/evidence/knowledge.  But religions vary, many demand hardcore faith in unreal things that could and never would occur.  Many do not demand unyielding blind faith, such as my own Judaism.
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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2006, 05:55:53 PM »

full on atheist, but people can choose to believe whatever in the hell they want to.  i have a friend who is becoming a catholic, going to school for it and all that shit.  no matter how misguided she might be i still support her.  of course, she did get me religion for dummies as some weird easter present this year.  just to be a jackass, i think i am getting her this for christmas:

http://www.yo-god.com/
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Charles

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Re: Religion
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2006, 08:42:09 PM »

You know...I have a new religion.  If you've ever played Legend of Zelda...yeah...that's my new religion.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2006, 05:32:26 AM »

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