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what would you describe yourself as?

Roman Catholic
- 8 (8.2%)
Protestant
- 2 (2%)
Mormon
- 1 (1%)
Episcopal
- 2 (2%)
Some other branch of Christianity
- 10 (10.2%)
Muslim
- 1 (1%)
Agnostic
- 26 (26.5%)
Athiest (fight religion!)
- 18 (18.4%)
Athiest ("go with the flow")
- 16 (16.3%)
Judaism
- 2 (2%)
Any "Pagan" religeon
- 9 (9.2%)
Budhist
- 0 (0%)
Taoist
- 1 (1%)
Hindu
- 0 (0%)
Humanist
- 2 (2%)

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Gustav

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Religion
« on: November 06, 2006, 07:01:35 PM »

I personally am an agnostic.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 07:31:42 PM »

Me too. I'd rather not believe in a God who would cast me in the Flamin' Pits o' Hell for being honest and saying
"I don't know"
If he's the good, kind, and loving God some folks brag about, then I don't see too much of a problem.
Now. How about all the folks who go to church and profess a belief they honestly don't have?
Would God rather punish a fake-believer or an honest disbeliever?
After all, if you question anything you may be denounced, so I'd imagine most folks would be more inclined to
shut up and open the hymnal to page 156, and just play along.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 07:36:50 PM »

And for the person who is Jewish by birth, was raised as a confused protestant, and grew up to marry an taoist-atheist?

Alas, there is no choice for me. :(
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Re: Religion
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 07:38:38 PM »

Interesting poll.

This thread could use some clarification between the two atheist categories, "completely against religion" vs "accept others beliefs".  Does the former mean "all religion should be banned"?  I don't think there are many people like that on this forum.  Does the latter mean "politeness toward the rights of others to have their wacky opinions"?  This could be misunderstood as "I'm not particularly religious, but I go with the flow".

Also, the Jewish category would have been better phrased as Judaism, which implies the faith.  I'm a member of the Jewish (Eastern Ashkenazi) ethnic group, but I'm a "strong" atheist.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 07:45:31 PM »

Interesting poll.

This thread could use some clarification between the two atheist categories, "completely against religion" vs "accept others beliefs".  Does the former mean "all religion should be banned"?  I don't think there are many people like that on this forum.  Does the latter mean "politeness toward the rights of others to have their wacky opinions"?  This could be misunderstood as "I'm not particularly religious, but I go with the flow".

Also, the Jewish category would have been better phrased as Judaism, which implies the faith.  I'm a member of the Jewish (Eastern Ashkenazi) ethnic group, but I'm a "strong" atheist.

I agree on the Judaism vs. Jewish clarification. It's needed here. There is also a lack of Eastern beliefs (Buddhism, Shinotism, Hinduism, other "isms") on the poll. While I respect many things about several faiths (Judaism more than most versions of Christianity), I cannot really get past all of the voodoo that's kept on the books just because it's "always been that way".
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Re: Religion
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2006, 08:36:01 PM »

I'm Jewish, and half of Israel's population that considers itself Jewish also considers itself agnostic or doesn't believe in God.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 10:54:29 PM »

I can't vote because I don't understand the distinction between the two kinds of atheist.

By agnostic you mean agnostic atheism, right? Pet peeve.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2006, 10:57:23 PM »

Agnostic, leaning toward atheism. I spent most of my life as a hard atheist, before deciding that some sort of universal intelligence is at least remotely theoretically possible. I hesitate to mention this to anyone, because the moment I do they get images of Moses and Jesus, etc. If any sort of "god" exists, it is much more likely to be something far more sophisticated, and much less narrowly defined, than Christians are willing to admit.

Man-made religions are nonsense at best, and pure hokum at worse.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2006, 11:14:26 PM »

I'm a catholic atheist.  If you went to catholic school, you know what I'm talking about.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2006, 11:19:57 PM »

agnostic  8)
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Re: Religion
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2006, 06:46:11 AM »

Indifferent - closest to agnostic. Honestly I don't care whether there is a higher being or not, it doesn't effect my life.
Probably doesn't affect your life, either.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2006, 07:14:02 AM »



Agnostic.


Yeah, this one needs more options.


What if you believe you are god? What if you believe god is a muffin?
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Re: Religion
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2006, 07:42:25 AM »



Agnostic.


Yeah, this one needs more options.


What if you believe you are god? What if you believe god is a muffin?

Every true believer knows God is a blueberry muffin. Those poppyseeders must be reviled and ostracized!
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Re: Religion
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2006, 11:36:54 AM »

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Every true believer knows God is a blueberry muffin. Those poppyseeders must be reviled and ostracized!

Whatever your faith, I don't think we can truly say for sure. Only the great baker in the sky can say...




*cough chocolate bar donuts!
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Re: Religion
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2006, 11:48:02 AM »

Man-made religions are nonsense at best, and pure hokum at worse.

I suppose a god-made religion would be, by definition, un-hokum.   :)  ...though not necessarily admirable either, depending on the god.

Add me to the "unsatisfied atheist" group.  I do not believe because I see no evidence to believe in, and more importantly, I do not see how a puny mortal like me could distinguish the difference between a god and any truly impressive alien life forms, who might themselves have their own gods.  "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke

Besides, the universe is amazing enough without invoking characters who may only exist in it partially or wholly outside of it.
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