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Title: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 29, 2008, 10:12:38 PM
Now I don't particularly give a shit about people saying nigger. I think racism is fucking retarded, but its that kind of retarded where I can't even get pissed off about it they're being so fucking stupid (not that as a white male in a predominantly white nation I'm ever the victim of it).

Anyway, point being, the people here who like to say nigger, often with no reason or purpose, do you ever have the balls to say it around black people and insist you're not being racist?

This fits in the same category as whore for me. I don't think any words are inherently anything, and I don't think saying nigger makes you racist. However, the same as I would not call a prostitute a whore and expect her not to take offense, same goes with nigger and blacks, chinks and chinese, etc etc. Whoever the word actually affects and is intended to insult, I'm happy to use language that won't offend them.

I would like to state for the record that just saying nigger for the sake of it is retarded. Its not funny, you're not taking it back, it just looks like retarded attention grabbing.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 29, 2008, 10:13:44 PM
I prefer to call everyone a <noun><hypen>fag. :)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: orion on August 29, 2008, 10:23:30 PM
If a black person insults me or makes a racist comment towards me, I will return the favor. I don't hate black people but I do have the balls to argue with them.

I think that on the Internet people need to stop being all SRSBSNS and fucking relax. Therefore I will make racist jokes online.

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2923/niggersbn8.jpg)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: MacFall on August 29, 2008, 10:42:50 PM
I completely reject the concept of race. I don't think anyone should be offended by any word. When they are offended, it is because they give themselves permission to be. So I don't have any problem with "racial" language.

However - as a rule I try not to offend other people. Not because of any moral conviction. I just believe in being polite.

I chose the third option.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 29, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
I chose None of the above mostly for the reason Orion listed. I don't hesitate to use the word in situations that are appropriate.

During discussion, online and off with people of any race, I find that using the word is unnecessary- there are a lot of other fun descriptives to use :)

Dropping it on forums - I don't do, but don't care too much either.

If I can go and listen to some songs about "Killin' Whitey" and be considered "hip"- then I should just as well be considered hip for listening to some Skrewdriver.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 29, 2008, 10:54:47 PM
(http://www.alexlibman.com/__imagebucket3/BLaCK_LiBMaN.png)

It looks like an old woman off a midwestern farm.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on August 29, 2008, 10:56:30 PM
I don't use the word "nigger" except to refer to the use of the word "nigger."  It irritates me considerably when others, including (especially) black people use it, as an epithet, and I find it retarded that some people feel they have to refer to it as "the N-word."  I feel pretty much the same about the whole variety of words invented to derogatorily depict the environment or genetics someone was born into, or anything else they have no control over.

All that said, I appreciate Lenny Bruce's treatment of the topic more than anything else. (NSFW!)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_y_LaMokGM
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 29, 2008, 10:57:46 PM
I completely reject the concept of race. I don't think anyone should be offended by any word. When they are offended, it is because they give themselves permission to be. So I don't have any problem with "racial" language.

A word in itself cannot be offensive, but the concepts that words are used to represent can be very offensive.

If I call someone a stupid fucking nigger, the word is loaded with concepts, and it is highly suggestive that I believe that just because of their race, not because of what they think or believe, that they are inferior to me. If I was a minority race and people insulted me because of my genetics, I think I would have a real problem with not being offended partly by the ignorance of the thing, and partly by the sheer inane hatred of it. Of course its easy to take the position that its just words, and if someone doesn't like you because of your race then you shouldn't care what they think, but its a different story when you're on the receiving end of the abuse.

When a white person gets called a cracker, I don't know any white person who would really be upset or angered by it, because the concepts it represent are not nearly so offensive. The super-super majority of white people have never been treated badly just because of the color of their skin. If someone calls me a cracker, its water off a ducks back, because it means shit to me, it has no impact.

If I call someone a nigger, not only is there a long history of people being grouped as inferior, and treated badly, personally and legally, but theres a decent chance that person has had to deal with shit because of their race, and for that reason I would never use a racial slur around someone where the slur actually means shit, unless I knew for sure it wouldn't bother them, because I'm not in the position to decide for someone what they should or should not find offensive.

The use of the word itself is fairly neutral, I've used the word nigger many times, and I think it would be stupid to say n-word when everyone reading would know I meant the same word, but in any context where those tones of abuse and derision might come up I'll absolutely avoid it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: MacFall on August 29, 2008, 10:59:12 PM
Even so, one must decide to be offended, no matter what the words are or what they mean.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 29, 2008, 11:03:31 PM
Even so, one must decide to be offended, no matter what the words are or what they mean.

I think decision would be an unfair term.

It is true that it is the person that is offended or not, there are no truly offensive terms only offensive discourse, but I think it lies in the realm of preference where it cannot be considered a true choice, much like a preference for broccoli. I may be able to liken myself to the taste, but if my initial reaction to the stimuli is one of disgust, then I don't think there was ever a choice made, just that the make up of my mind means I would react in that certain way.

Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: orion on August 29, 2008, 11:05:16 PM
There is history behind the word, but if you were never informed of this history you would be none the wiser and hence not be offended. For this reason I think it's important to make a distinction between actual experiences and what other people tell you a word means.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 29, 2008, 11:07:24 PM
There is history behind the word, but if you were never informed of this history you would be none the wiser and hence not be offended. For this reason I think it's important to make a distinction between actual experiences and what other people tell you a word means.

well yeah, if i want to use the word yogurt to describe what you think of as a car, then for me thats what yogurt means

the idea of "right" words and "right" spelling is completely bizarre, and flies in the face of everything language is. its a fluid system, an adaptive, evolving one, and words have slightly/vastly different meanings depending where you say them and who you say them to

its just a symbol but whatever the symbol represents is the important thing

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Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on August 29, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
Even so, one must decide to be offended, no matter what the words are or what they mean.

I think decision would be an unfair term.

It is true that it is the person that is offended or not, there are no truly offensive terms only offensive discourse, but I think it lies in the realm of preference where it cannot be considered a true choice, much like a preference for broccoli. I may be able to liken myself to the taste, but if my initial reaction to the stimuli is one of disgust, then I don't think there was ever a choice made, just that the make up of my mind means I would react in that certain way.

this

There is history behind the word, but if you were never informed of this history you would be none the wiser and hence not be offended. For this reason I think it's important to make a distinction between actual experiences and what other people tell you a word means.

That it is used to demean people over something they're not in control of offends me.

...oh, and as Ron Paul has pointed out, there's inherent collectivism involved...
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Lindsey on August 30, 2008, 01:39:31 AM
I completely reject the concept of race. I don't think anyone should be offended by any word. When they are offended, it is because they give themselves permission to be. So I don't have any problem with "racial" language.

However - as a rule I try not to offend other people. Not because of any moral conviction. I just believe in being polite.

I chose the third option.

I agree with this.  I believe that people created racism.  It is not a natural belief, because in reality we are all human.  We are all made of the same materials.  Once upon a time, somebody thought up the word nigger, and at some point decided that it would be used as a derogatory slang term for black people.  If you put it in perspective, you'll realize that if that one thought had not occurred to that one person in that one moment in time, our culture would not be the way it is today. 

I believe that every action we take defines us, and shapes who we are as people - and I believe that words in and of themselves are meaningless.  It is the context in which they are delivered, along with intent that make them what they are.  I've had a man tell me he loved me with malice behind his eyes and anger in his voice.  It was most obvious that what he was feeling for me at that very moment was not love.  It was something else entirely. 

I also feel that the black culture as a whole is flawed in the way that "they" tend to carry a chip on their shoulder, so to speak.  I find that many seek restitution, and act as if they have a right to be treated differently because of events in our world's past.  Many other races were enslaved in the past.  Many still are enslaved, not according to race.  Not according to much, necessarily.  But I don't think that means everyone should have to tip toe around the issue.  That's ridiculous.  Nigger is a word, and it is nothing without intent.  But even I have to admit, I've never used the word nigger and not had a thought at the very least in the back of my mind about black people.  The fact of the matter is that I never enslaved a black person, so therefore I do not owe them anything more than the common respect I would give to anyone until they give me a reason not to. 

I grew up in a household where nigger was a commonly used word.  My father used it a lot, but claimed not to be racist.  He always said there was a difference between black people and niggers.  I suppose he is correct, people are different.  But why is it acceptable to differentiate between white people and crackers, and not okay to differentiate between black people and niggers? 

I have to admit, I don't like the connotation of the word now, itself - but I do use the word.  I do not use it to malign black people.  I don't even have a valid reason for using it, other than it being habit that I picked up from a very young age.  For example, when I drive - I have moderate road rage.  Sometimes I scream "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY YOU FUCKING NIGGER" when I can plainly see that it is not a black person.  Now that I see it in print, I see that I have inadvertently demeaned a person for no other reason that I know that word is generally intended to be derogatory in its meaning, and the fact that the individual it was pointed at obviously sucks at driving, according to me. 

I'm going to stop typing now, because I'm losing my train of thought and I feel that I am straying from a topic that I am seriously attempting to address.  Especially since most of my attempts at serious replies here are ignored in lieu of pictures of my breasts.   :lol:

EDIT:  No, I would not call a black person a nigger directly to his or her face.  Regardless of how I feel, the word tends to be offensive to people of that race.  I believe other things are for more effective in the quest to demean someone's intelligence, looks, or personality if that is what the intent is, instead of using a word that has been bastardized over a few decades. 
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: AntonLee on August 30, 2008, 02:46:15 AM
I only use it when I'm singing along with Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. . . which happens very often. . . has happened when I pull up next to the car with 4 blacks in it. . . who look at me strange and wide eyed when I looked over and said 'c'mon you know you love the song too'

I don't feel bad, I do worry about getting shot however.  Hence why when I drive through Dorchester I'm listening to ZZ Top.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Selfish Gene on August 30, 2008, 03:21:58 AM
I pull up next to the car with 4 blacks in it. . . who look at me strange and wide eyed when I looked over and said 'c'mon you know you love the song too'

How do you know they love the song?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: AntonLee on August 30, 2008, 01:53:11 PM
I was kinda being sarcastic. . . I say the same thing if there are asians and puerto ricans.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 30, 2008, 03:23:07 PM
I believe that people created racism.

I disagree, it was the humanoid lizards. David Icke sent me a very informative fax last night about it. Lindsey, are you familiar with this genius man's writings?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on August 30, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
I'll say it to a black person as long as I have the means to get away from them right after I do it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 30, 2008, 04:58:37 PM
If a black person gets upset when I call them a nigger to their face and they get upset, I don't want to know them.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on August 30, 2008, 05:12:18 PM
(http://blondechris.com/pics/ThatsRacist.gif)(http://homepage.mac.com/kparlato/.Pictures/Fark/Cliches/waisis.gif)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 30, 2008, 05:16:10 PM
I wouldn't do it if I knew it was going to hurt that person's feelings.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 05:20:53 PM
If a black person gets upset when I call them a nigger to their face and they get upset, I don't want to know them.

talk about high standards
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 30, 2008, 05:22:20 PM
If a black person gets upset when I call them a nigger to their face and they get upset, I don't want to know them.

talk about high standards

I know two black people that I can say it to. And I knew I would be able to before hand without even asking.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 05:23:54 PM
If a black person gets upset when I call them a nigger to their face and they get upset, I don't want to know them.

talk about high standards

I know two black people that I can say it to. And I knew I would be able to before hand without even asking.

If you know them its not the same thing.

Just like how no black person would assume another black person a nigger had any tones of racial superiority, if someone knows you're not the kind of retard to think bad of you because of your race, then saying it to them isn't the same as just shouting it at someone in the street.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 30, 2008, 05:26:32 PM
If a black person gets upset when I call them a nigger to their face and they get upset, I don't want to know them.

talk about high standards

I know two black people that I can say it to. And I knew I would be able to before hand without even asking.

If you know them its not the same thing.

Just like how no black person would assume another black person a nigger had any tones of racial superiority, if someone knows you're not the kind of retard to think bad of you because of your race, then saying it to them isn't the same as just shouting it at someone in the street.

Nigger, please.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on August 30, 2008, 05:31:47 PM
thats waisis
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 30, 2008, 08:01:11 PM
There's something else that should be mentioned 'bout this here topic- and that's that everyone loves to bawl like a baby when someone gets called a nigger. But what about the behaviour that warrants it? Any person whom I would call a nigger is certain to be acting like one, knows that they are acting like one, wants to act like one, and enjoys acting like one... but oooohhh - don't ever call them one! What's up with that?

And oh yeah.. it's racist to call someone a nigger, right? And everyone bawls about racism- as long as it's white against black racism. But when reversed, say.. rape, robbery, assault, etc. that is so fucking blatant - not a tear shall be shed from those who are so offended by such racism the other way 'round. Wassup widat?!

Nobody wants to talk about race and crime statistics and really get to the issue. For that, on this BBS, you might get the ban cast down on you, for posting crime articles and breeching the subject of race based crime where aggressive black folks (men) are the offenders. So, a little verbal insult works so many people into a frenzy, but the serious issues of racism is nothing to be bothered about, right? Wasssaaapp?!
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on August 30, 2008, 08:04:16 PM
I don't care what kind of racism.  I don't like it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 08:35:13 PM
There's something else that should be mentioned 'bout this here topic- and that's that everyone loves to bawl like a baby when someone gets called a nigger. But what about the behaviour that warrants it? Any person whom I would call a nigger is certain to be acting like one, knows that they are acting like one, wants to act like one, and enjoys acting like one... but oooohhh - don't ever call them one! What's up with that?

And oh yeah.. it's racist to call someone a nigger, right? And everyone bawls about racism- as long as it's white against black racism. But when reversed, say.. rape, robbery, assault, etc. that is so fucking blatant - not a tear shall be shed from those who are so offended by such racism the other way 'round. Wassup widat?!

Thats fucking retarded, as I mentioned in my earlier post, I don't know any white people who have actually been offended/been a victim of racial discrimination.

Words are only symbols, and cracker or what have you, is an extremely unloaded word. It doesn't mean shit because you never really get put down, or treated badly because of your race.

Same thing goes with any other form of discrimination. If someone called you a fucking straighty, you wouldn't give a shit, because no one ever really gets shit for being straight. If you're gay and someone calls you a dirty fucking faggot, it means alot more, especially if you have been given shit, or been attacked, or had shit through your life about it.

All this NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WHEN ITS RACISM AGAINST WHITES is fucking bullshit, its completely inane, and it follows your own thinly veiled racism, which is beneath you.

"Any person whom I would call a nigger is certain to be acting like one, knows that they are acting like one, wants to act like one, and enjoys acting like one"

Thats fucking retarded. Nigger is not a descriptive adjective, its a racial slur. Its always been used against blacks as an insult about their very being, not their actions or thoughts, you can't "act" like a nigger, any more than you can "act" like a faggot. It's completely fucking ridiculous to draw that conclusion. If you want to abstract nigger not to be a racial slur anymore, then fine, but you just look like a fucking bigoted asshole, and its not going to stop the words meaning to people.

"Nobody wants to talk about race and crime statistics and really get to the issue. "

Retarded again. Every time you talk about it you just try and slip in, and hide from yourself the fact that its comfortable for you to group together blacks into some "problem" group. The whole point is that its fucking retarded to think about it. Theres no end goal, just some bullshit sense of superiority. Yes in America there is a high proportion of blacks in jail. Does this mean I should treat black people differently? no. Does this mean I should take any action to "fix" the problem? no. Theres no reason to keep in mind those collectivist ideas, besides basic ignorance and bigotry.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on August 30, 2008, 08:40:54 PM
The person doing the offending doesn't get to say if it's offensive--only the offended can.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 30, 2008, 09:36:14 PM
There's something else that should be mentioned 'bout this here topic- and that's that everyone loves to bawl like a baby when someone gets called a nigger. But what about the behaviour that warrants it? Any person whom I would call a nigger is certain to be acting like one, knows that they are acting like one, wants to act like one, and enjoys acting like one... but oooohhh - don't ever call them one! What's up with that?

And oh yeah.. it's racist to call someone a nigger, right? And everyone bawls about racism- as long as it's white against black racism. But when reversed, say.. rape, robbery, assault, etc. that is so fucking blatant - not a tear shall be shed from those who are so offended by such racism the other way 'round. Wassup widat?!

Thats fucking retarded, as I mentioned in my earlier post, I don't know any white people who have actually been offended/been a victim of racial discrimination.

Words are only symbols, and cracker or what have you, is an extremely unloaded word. It doesn't mean shit because you never really get put down, or treated badly because of your race.

Same thing goes with any other form of discrimination. If someone called you a fucking straighty, you wouldn't give a shit, because no one ever really gets shit for being straight. If you're gay and someone calls you a dirty fucking faggot, it means alot more, especially if you have been given shit, or been attacked, or had shit through your life about it.

All this NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WHEN ITS RACISM AGAINST WHITES is fucking bullshit, its completely inane, and it follows your own thinly veiled racism, which is beneath you.

"Any person whom I would call a nigger is certain to be acting like one, knows that they are acting like one, wants to act like one, and enjoys acting like one"

Thats fucking retarded. Nigger is not a descriptive adjective, its a racial slur. Its always been used against blacks as an insult about their very being, not their actions or thoughts, you can't "act" like a nigger, any more than you can "act" like a faggot. It's completely fucking ridiculous to draw that conclusion. If you want to abstract nigger not to be a racial slur anymore, then fine, but you just look like a fucking bigoted asshole, and its not going to stop the words meaning to people.

"Nobody wants to talk about race and crime statistics and really get to the issue. "

Retarded again. Every time you talk about it you just try and slip in, and hide from yourself the fact that its comfortable for you to group together blacks into some "problem" group. The whole point is that its fucking retarded to think about it. Theres no end goal, just some bullshit sense of superiority. Yes in America there is a high proportion of blacks in jail. Does this mean I should treat black people differently? no. Does this mean I should take any action to "fix" the problem? no. Theres no reason to keep in mind those collectivist ideas, besides basic ignorance and bigotry.


fatcat- do you remember the video posted of the (black) lady in the subway totally freaking out toward a fellow passenger who was an older (black) lady? One of those ladies was decidedly calm, composed, non threatening, normal and respectable. The other was obnoxiously aggressive, persistently annoying, potentially violent and generally playing the role of what is commonly called "acting like a nigger". It is a behaviour, and a specific one at that. Both ladies were black, but any level headed person wouldn't refer to both of them with such a descriptive.

It's fantasy to claim that in todays society that the word "nigger" has no place when you see the behaviour and proclamation of it displayed so proudly. There are gangs (pun) of individuals who strive to perfect the role they have chosen, all you have to do is look around. A few times a week while working I drive by a homeless shelter and a predominately black middle school. I find it disturbing that the people around each location behave so similarly, and adapt the same manner of dress- and it isn't accidental- that's what they're in to, that's the goal.

I won't entertain yet another game of "Let's all call hellbilly out for the racist that he must be".. because I have already shown that I'm not. Being critical does not equal hatred, or technically even "dislike". I place a lot of value on other races and what they contribute, and dismiss people from any race who contribute nothing but trash and dead weight.

Good for you that you don't know anyone white people who have been victimized because they are white. In your reality, I suppose that means such instances do not exist. To others, the opposite is true - and it's getting worse. But don't take my word for it, get an attractive lady friend to accompany you to the ghetto sometime, maybe late at night, and see if you become more of a target than other couples strolling the avenue.. or do it the easy way and read some headlines.
--

By the way- you just did exactly what I was speaking of.. the bawling began, denial of reverse racism, and calling me a racist all in one. :)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 10:45:22 PM
Good for you that you don't know anyone white people who have been victimized because they are white. In your reality, I suppose that means such instances do not exist. To others, the opposite is true - and it's getting worse. But don't take my word for it, get an attractive lady friend to accompany you to the ghetto sometime, maybe late at night, and see if you become more of a target than other couples strolling the avenue.. or do it the easy way and read some headlines.
--

By the way- you just did exactly what I was speaking of.. the bawling began, denial of reverse racism, and calling me a racist all in one. :)

The fact that you care so much about highlighting racial differences makes you racist. Racism doesn't just mean hating other racism, its a form of collectivism, based on race, anything other than that is just a flavor.

"Good for you that you don't know anyone white people who have been victimized because they are white. In your reality, I suppose that means such instances do not exist. To others, the opposite is true - and it's getting worse."

Thats a fucking joke. Did you read my parallel towards sexual discrimination. I'm not saying racism against whites doesn't happen, I know it does, but its on such a tiny scale that comparing it to racism towards minorities is fucking ridiculous on the realms of insulting towards actual racism.

I'm sure discrimination against straight people by gay people has risen since the 1940s, should we be railing against this?

Your bullshit about nigger being a description of behavior is bunk. It may be more in use, but it is still a racial slur first and foremost, and as such its most commonly derived meaning will be one of racial hatred.

Faggot is used as a neutral insult far more frequently than nigger is used by non blacks in a neutral sense, but theres no way I would call a gay person a faggot and expect them to just take it as a non discriminatory fashion.

Likewise you calling a black person a nigger because they are acting "niggerdly" is fucking retarded. You don't mention a word that has been used for hundreds of years to insult someone because of their race, and expect them not to take it as an insult about their race.

"But don't take my word for it, get an attractive lady friend to accompany you to the ghetto sometime, maybe late at night, and see if you become more of a target than other couples strolling the avenue.. or do it the easy way and read some headlines."

Those places are dangerous because they're dangerous, not because blacks live their. Thats what makes you fucking racist. There are places like this in the uk (the place I live has a non white population of 4% and the 3rd highest murder rate in the country), and they are full of poor, violent WHITE people, I don't give a shit what color the people are in violent places, I don't want to be there.

You still haven't said any reason why we should focus on blacks being involved in more crime. The only "solutions" would involve infringing on the rights of ALL black people. Being violent is already a crime, being black should never be one. Your position is fucking baseless.

If you want to treat races differently then you're fucking racist.

Shit, I don't even know why you reject the label, you clearly have no problem focusing so heavily on the idea of people as groups, and you play it off as "hip hop"/"thug" culture or whatever shit you want to label it.

BUT BLACK PEOPLE ARE REALLY DANGEROUS! LOOK AT THE STATISTICS! GO TO SOME PLACE WITH BLACK PEOPLE THEN TELL ME THEY'RE NOT DANGEROUS!

sigh....
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 30, 2008, 11:11:40 PM
You know, sometimes I'm in agreement with you in issues, but you seem to take any topic way over the top. And this is another one of those times.

- "I'm sure discrimination against straight people by gay people has risen since the 1940s, should we be railing against this?" - Gay folks don't bother me a bit, and they aren't known for being particularly violent and slack assed, like certain groups of people from all ethnicities are, some even glorifying the behaviour.

- "You don't mention a word that has been used for hundreds of years to insult someone because of their race, and expect them not to take it as an insult about their race." - If I insult someone (as in an individual) - that insult is for that someone.

- "You still haven't said any reason why we should focus on blacks being involved in more crime." - I don't think we should focus on "blacks", and I've said all along that we should focus on the thug/gan'sta lads. If you haven't noticed a pattern by now, then you must not really care too much about "blacks". Black-on-black crime is higher than any other sort of crime, so if you like to think of yourself as one who tends to focus on the victimization of blacks, you might want to face reality.

- "If you want to treat races differently then you're fucking racist." - I don't.

- "BUT BLACK PEOPLE ARE REALLY DANGEROUS! LOOK AT THE STATISTICS! GO TO SOME PLACE WITH BLACK PEOPLE THEN TELL ME THEY'RE NOT DANGEROUS!" - I'll give you credit and assume you were able to comprehend what I said and that this is an attempt at showmanship.


So anyway, apparently you have an issue with verbal offenses. What about physical offenses? Since you speak in defense of people who may have potentially been victimized by a word, what say you regarding people of all colors who have most undoubtedly been physically victimized by those sorts of lads that crave the thug lifestyle, but not the verbal connotation?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 11:33:58 PM
- "I'm sure discrimination against straight people by gay people has risen since the 1940s, should we be railing against this?" - Gay folks don't bother me a bit, and they aren't known for being particularly violent and slack assed, like certain groups of people from all ethnicities are, some even glorifying the behaviour.

What's this got to do with shit? I was making the point that its possible for Gays to discriminate against Straight people, but its not a serious issue because the scale is so small. Likewise racism towards whites in majority white countries is a fucking joke, the idea that anyone is hurt by anti white racism is a fucking joke (im talking about racism, not black people beating up white people which you keep trying to link in). When you're in the majority then it doesn't matter. Same for Straight on Gay discrimination, same for White on Black/asian/hispanic.

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- "You don't mention a word that has been used for hundreds of years to insult someone because of their race, and expect them not to take it as an insult about their race." - If I insult someone (as in an individual) - that insult is for that someone.

If you call a black person a filthy nigger, then it would be fair to assume you think they're race is part of the reason you hate them. If a white person pisses you off, you don't call them a fucking cracker, you call them a asshole, or prick. don't act like calling a black person a nigger has nothing to do with racism, its fucking embarrassingly is not the case. Much like you wouldn't call a gay person a dirty faggot and expect them not to assume you dislike them because of that part of their being. If race and sexuality are not an issue for you then you shouldn't be using them as insults, because then it looks as if you do.

I reiterate, you don't call white people crackers, you don't call straight people straighters, because there race and sexuality aren't an issue for you, the only reason you would bring attention to it is if you thought it was in any way a reason to insult someone.

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- "You still haven't said any reason why we should focus on blacks being involved in more crime." - I don't think we should focus on "blacks", and I've said all along that we should focus on the thug/gan'sta lads. If you haven't noticed a pattern by now, then you must not really care too much about "blacks". Black-on-black crime is higher than any other sort of crime, so if you like to think of yourself as one who tends to focus on the victimization of blacks, you might want to face reality.

What reality? You don't seem to be paying attention to my point, you just want to paint me as some overly PC idiot who can't accept blacks are involved in crime more. I accept it, I can read the same statistics you do, I just don't think its a genetic issue, and I don't think theres any immediate solution, or any solution that should be taylored towards blacks. Liberty is the best solution for any societal problem. Your claim that you don't want to treat black people differently is at odds with your claim that it is so important to focus on them. If you would not treat them differently then theres no reason to focus on them instead of humans in general

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- "If you want to treat races differently then you're fucking racist." - I don't.

Well then theres no reason to talk about blacks as a problem as there is nothing you could do that you wouldn't have to apply equally to all races. In my personal opinion liberty is the best philosophy, so to concentrate on blacks over any other race would be pointless.


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So anyway, apparently you have an issue with verbal offenses. What about physical offenses? Since you speak in defense of people who may have potentially been victimized by a word, what say you regarding people of all colors who have most undoubtedly been physically victimized by those sorts of lads that crave the thug lifestyle, but not the verbal connotation?

I'm not defending shit. I'm making the point that if you call a black person a nigger then its an insult against their race. That insult can be particularly hurtful when black people have been fucked over for so long. I know now it isn't so much the case, but it doesn't change the past. You call a black person a nigger you're calling it them because they're black, whether you hate them because of their race or not, thats how its seems, and hating over race is one of the most fucking retarded reasons to hate, thats why I oppose the use of the word as an insult, just as I oppose insults about sexuality. I think its fucked up to hate on someone for an arbitrary circumstanceof birth , especially if they're in a minority that gets picked on by a majority. When it no longer has meaning of racial hate then I'm fine with its use as an insult towards black people.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 30, 2008, 11:35:19 PM
A "Nigger" is different from a "Black Person".  A nigger is a specific kind of black person, that dirty welfare sucking crack smoking rapping boom boxing type.  I know several black people who are not and never will be considered as niggers.  They are educated, polite, clean, drug free (for the most part) and are or will be making very profitable futures. 

The same goes for "White Trash" vs. "White Person" and "Beaner" vs. "Latin" and "Chink" vs. "Chinamen", etc. etc. etc.

Every race has its despicable elements, but to use the word "Nigger" to describe any black person or every black person?  That's just racist.  If you're using the word to describe a member of this criminal subclass, that's not racist.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 30, 2008, 11:40:45 PM
A "Nigger" is different from a "Black Person".  A nigger is a specific kind of black person, that dirty welfare sucking crack smoking rapping boom boxing type.  I know several black people who are not and never will be considered as niggers.  They are educated, polite, clean, drug free (for the most part) and are or will be making very profitable futures. 

The same goes for "White Trash" vs. "White Person" and "Beaner" vs. "Latin" and "Chink" vs. "Chinamen", etc. etc. etc.

Every race has its despicable elements, but to use the word "Nigger" to describe any black person or every black person?  That's just racist.  If you're using the word to describe a member of this criminal subclass, that's not racist.


This stuff is stupid. Anyone who had actually had a hard time over race would never say such dumb stuff.

You can start using nigger to describe a "criminal underclass" instead of a racial slur, when you can walk up to a high class black business man, call him a nigger, and he responds in the same way as if you went up to a high class white businessman and called him white trash.

Just because you want nigger to mean different things doesn't mean it does for the majority of people.

I can want faggot to mean great person, but if I go into a gay bar and start shouting it at the biggest, strongest gays in the place I'm going to expect to get my ass kicked.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 30, 2008, 11:44:23 PM
A "Nigger" is different from a "Black Person".  A nigger is a specific kind of black person, that dirty welfare sucking crack smoking rapping boom boxing type.  I know several black people who are not and never will be considered as niggers.  They are educated, polite, clean, drug free (for the most part) and are or will be making very profitable futures. 

The same goes for "White Trash" vs. "White Person" and "Beaner" vs. "Latin" and "Chink" vs. "Chinamen", etc. etc. etc.

Every race has its despicable elements, but to use the word "Nigger" to describe any black person or every black person?  That's just racist.  If you're using the word to describe a member of this criminal subclass, that's not racist.


This stuff is stupid. Anyone who had actually had a hard time over race would never say such dumb stuff.

You can start using nigger to describe a "criminal underclass" instead of a racial slur, when you can walk up to a high class black business man, call him a nigger, and he responds in the same way as if you went up to a high class white businessman and called him white trash.

Just because you want nigger to mean different things doesn't mean it does for the majority of people.

I can want faggot to mean great person, but if I go into a gay bar and start shouting it at the biggest, strongest gays in the place I'm going to expect to get my ass kicked.
Or fucked.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: MacFall on August 30, 2008, 11:59:22 PM
I'm making the point that if you call a black person a nigger then its an insult against their race. That insult can be particularly hurtful when black people have been fucked over for so long. I know now it isn't so much the case, but it doesn't change the past.
Ok, that's all very silly. You can't insult a person's race. You can only insult a person. Race itself, not only racism, is collectivist bullshit. It doesn't exist. Only individuals exist.

I don't care if "black people" have been fucked over more than "white people". I only care about individual people, individual circumstances, individual choices, and individual responsibility - in the face of which, people getting offended over a word which may or may not refer to their fictional "race" strikes me as irrational and juvenile.

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You call a black person a nigger you're calling it them because they're black

That doesn't take into account that the word describes a person of ANY color who acts in a certain manner. I call welfare-parasite thugs "niggers." I don't give a shit how much melanin they have in their skin.

And by the way, the word first came into use to refer to lazy people. Check out some 18-19th century popular literature. It's a derivative of the word "niggardly". It made more sense to call a niggardly person a "nigger" than it did to call a lazy person a "laze" or something like that. True, it was used primarily - but not exclusively - in America to refer to black people. But to say that it cannot mean anything else is to ignore its history and etymology.

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Whether you hate them because of their race or not, thats how its seems

Sure, but if people don't know enough about the English language, or if people are so ready to be "collectively insulted" that they take what I have to say wrongly, that's their failure. Not mine.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 31, 2008, 12:13:26 AM
(im talking about racism, not black people beating up white people which you keep trying to link in).

..of course I'm linking it in! That's my complaint! Well that and rape, robbery, etc. Don't want to make light of it by just stating "beat up" or anything..



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If race and sexuality are not an issue for you then you shouldn't be using them as insults, because then it looks as if you do.

If I'm pissed enough at someone to start insulting them in the first place, then for me, everything is fair game. Could care less if the person I'm intent on offending becomes.. offended.


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..you just want to paint me as some overly PC idiot who can't accept blacks are involved in crime more. I accept it, I can read the same statistics you do, I just don't think its a genetic issue, and I don't think theres any immediate solution, or any solution that should be taylored towards blacks.

You'll never hear me say it's genetic for I am of the opinion it is an learned behaviour, learned, and instructed, with great enthusiasm. The immediate solution is to stop coddling those violent fools, and sweeping the issue under the rug. Be open about the problem and who is at cause.. call them "bad names" if need be!  :shock:

.."Don't you dare call that disadvantaged AfroAmerican who put the beat down on that couple in KY and raped the girl and then dumped bleach in her mouth and then savagely killed the both of them a "nigger" !! "

"...Oh.. well.. he was a Jerk then! What a J-E-R-K !"


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Well then theres no reason to talk about blacks as a problem as there is nothing you could do that you wouldn't have to apply equally to all races. In my personal opinion liberty is the best philosophy, so to concentrate on blacks over any other race would be pointless.

Why the hell should I "hate on" people of all races equally as a result of the violent and dismal decline of a group from one particular race? The responsibility belongs to that community. And this is an example of accurate collectivism, to deny that this one particular group of people has a specific issue is beyond ignorant.


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I'm not defending shit. I'm making the point that if you call a black person a nigger then its an insult against their race. That insult can be particularly hurtful when black people have been fucked over for so long.

As I've said, at least in my case, it isn't directed at anyone but the individual. As for black people having been fucked over- they can hold themselves to blame for that shit as they have become their own worse enemies doing far greater damage to one another than any other racial group has ever issued them.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 12:16:46 AM
I'm making the point that if you call a black person a nigger then its an insult against their race. That insult can be particularly hurtful when black people have been fucked over for so long. I know now it isn't so much the case, but it doesn't change the past.
Ok, that's all very silly. You can't insult a person's race. You can only insult a person. Race itself, not only racism, is collectivist bullshit. It doesn't exist. Only individuals exist.

I don't care if "black people" have been fucked over more than "white people". I only care about individual people, individual circumstances, individual choices, and individual responsibility - in the face of which, people getting offended over a word which may or may not refer to their fictional "race" strikes me as irrational and juvenile.

Race isn't fictional, its a genetic condition. If I call a guy born with no legs a fucking cripple, im insulting the fact he has no legs. If i call a black person a stupid koon, I'm insulting the fact he's black.

Only individuals exist, and some of those individuals are born with genetics that make their skin dark in color, and aspects of their physiology slightly different. Its incredibly ignorant and insulting to say that no black person should take offense at racist abuse because its only a collectivist term. the fact that it is collectivist is what makes it so insulting. Its not that I've hurt you, its not that I act in a certain way, but the very nature of my genetics is supposed to be warrant to call me inferior, to hate me, to oppress me. Its ridiculous to deny that the fact less than 100 years ago black people where treated sub human, that racially based abuse is of no effect.

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You call a black person a nigger you're calling it them because they're black

That doesn't take into account that the word describes a person of ANY color who acts in a certain manner. I call welfare-parasite thugs "niggers." I don't give a shit how much melanin they have in their skin.

You don't but others do, and if for years of your life people have insulted you just for the way you look, then they might not actually GIVE A SHIT what your opinion on the word is, when to them it has been used to insult them over and over, from people who may. I'm not saying all black people are victims, but some are, and it fucking matters because its them that have to put up with this shit.

I already addressed how stupid this is. If you call a black doctor a nigger, he doesn't act the same as if you called a white doctor white trash, they're not equivalent because white trash isn't insulting race, its insulting class, nigger sometimes means other things, but it also is a word that was used for hundreds of years to put down people of black genetics because they were viewed and treated as inferior.

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And by the way, the word first came into use to refer to lazy people. Check out some 18-19th century popular literature. It's a derivative of the word "niggardly". It made more sense to call a niggardly person a "nigger" than it did to call a lazy person a "laze" or something like that. True, it was used primarily - but not exclusively - in America to refer to black people. But to say that it cannot mean anything else is to ignore its history and etymology.

I never said it can't mean anything else, words can mean radically different things depending on who says them, when, and to who, you obviously haven't been reading my posts, im saying it can mean other things, I've already accepted that fact in examples of black people calling each other nigger, and such, but I'm saying if a white person calls a black person a nigger out of the blue, the most commonly accepted meaning is one of racial hatred.

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Whether you hate them because of their race or not, thats how its seems

Sure, but if people don't know enough about the English language, or if people are so ready to be "collectively insulted" that they take what I have to say wrongly, that's their failure. Not mine.

It's not about collectively insulted. Black people have never felt bad because people put "their race" down, they were made to feel bad because THEY themselves had different genes, and they were believed to be inferior, stupid, lazy, untrustworthy. Not because of how they act, but simply because of the circumstance of their birth.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: MacFall on August 31, 2008, 12:22:45 AM
If you call a black doctor a nigger, he doesn't act the same as if you called a white doctor white trash, they're not equivalent because white trash isn't insulting race, its insulting class, nigger sometimes means other things, but it also is a word that was used for hundreds of years to put down people of black genetics because they were viewed and treated as inferior.
That's irrelevant. A doctor is not a welfare-parasite thug.

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I'm saying if a white person calls a black person a nigger out of the blue, the most commonly accepted meaning is one of racial hatred.
Also irrelevant since I don't call "black people" niggers. I call welfare-parasite thugs "niggers".

And I'm frankly completely unconcerned if the type of person I would call that is offended by it. I'm somewhere between annoyed and amused that other people, to whom it was in no way directed, would be offended by my use of it, in its proper context.
Title: Re: Nigger
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Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 12:28:46 AM
(im talking about racism, not black people beating up white people which you keep trying to link in).

..of course I'm linking it in! That's my complaint! Well that and rape, robbery, etc. Don't want to make light of it by just stating "beat up" or anything..

Black people don't beat up white people because they're black. some black people beat up some white people because they're violent people, first and foremost. Your "complaint" is so fucking vaguely defined that I have no real idea of what you're saying, and you have still yet to show what the point is on focusing on it when you say you don't want to treat black people any differently.


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If race and sexuality are not an issue for you then you shouldn't be using them as insults, because then it looks as if you do.

If I'm pissed enough at someone to start insulting them in the first place, then for me, everything is fair game. Could care less if the person I'm intent on offending becomes.. offended.

You completely ignored my actual point. "everything is fair game is a fucking cop out". Like I said, if you're insulting a straight person, you don't call him a fucking straight person, because you don't care about that fact, and you dont expect them to care. You would only call a black person a nigger if you thought that it would insult him to hear insulting words about his race. You would only call a person in a wheel chair a stupid cripple if you thought the fact he was in a chair was something he could be insulted over.

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.."Don't you dare call that disadvantaged AfroAmerican who put the beat down on that couple in KY and raped the girl and then dumped bleach in her mouth and then savagely killed the both of them a "nigger" !! "

"...Oh.. well.. he was a Jerk then! What a J-E-R-K !"

Again, completely missing the fucking point. Nigger should not be in the vocabulary unless their race means something to you. To me, it doesn't, the fact they killed people does. They're horrible fucking people, whether they're black or white has nothing to do with it, I wouldn't bring in nigger, any more than I'd call a white killer a disgusting cracker bastard, because its completely irrelevant to what im thinking and feeling.

You want to call black people niggers thats fine, but its just like calling someone with a genetic disability a cripple, or calling a gay person a fucking faggot, you're using something that apparently you don't care about to insult them, but your true intention is betrayed in your other actions, you never call white people crackers as an insult, because their race is truly irrelevant to you,

if you're angry at a guy, you don't call him a trouser wearer, because the fact he wears trousers is irrelevant, you call him a lying asshole if he's been a lying asshole,

the only reason you would use nigger as an insult towards a black person is if you thought that you could use their race as a means to emotionally hurt them, and by that extension there must be something wrong or inferior with the race or you wouldn't bring it up

don't try and pull the "nigger just means thug" bullshit, because you would just call them thugs,

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As for black people having been fucked over- they can hold themselves to blame for that shit

Despicable, truly despicable.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 12:35:39 AM
If you call a black doctor a nigger, he doesn't act the same as if you called a white doctor white trash, they're not equivalent because white trash isn't insulting race, its insulting class, nigger sometimes means other things, but it also is a word that was used for hundreds of years to put down people of black genetics because they were viewed and treated as inferior.
That's irrelevant. A doctor is not a welfare-parasite thug.

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I'm saying if a white person calls a black person a nigger out of the blue, the most commonly accepted meaning is one of racial hatred.
Also irrelevant since I don't call "black people" niggers. I call welfare-parasite thugs "niggers".

And I'm frankly completely unconcerned if the type of person I would call that is offended by it. I'm somewhere between annoyed and amused that other people, to whom it was in no way directed, would be offended by my use of it, in its proper context.

You just called the point that disputed what you said irrelevant, you didn't do anything to show how that was so.

If all nigger means for you, is welfare parasite thugs, then thats fine, it doesn't matter what you think it means, it matters what the other person thinks it means

If you run into a bank and scream, "EVERYONE DOWN ON THE FUCKING FLOOR! ANYONE MOVES AND I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!", you might very well mean, hello, i'd like to make a deposit, but language doesn't exist in isolation in your head, it exists as a communal set of symbols that have different meaning for different people, but the ones we commonly accept, we commonly use and understand as so.

I say car, you think of that thing with 4 weels and an engine.

Now if all you really mean by nigger is welfare parasite, then thats fine. But you're fucking retarded if you think someone who doesn't even know you should hear those words and know exactly what you mean.

Fact is, if you say car people will think you're talking about automobiles, and if you call a black person a nigger they will assume you are insulting the very fact they were born to 2 black parents.

If you're trying to take it back you're fucking failing miserably.

My point about the doctor still stands. Nigger isn't just interchangeable with thug or parasite.

If you call a white doctor white trash, it wouldn't make a big deal of difference because he likely has never considered him white trash, and by calling him it, its as if you called him a chink, its so far removed from his actual person that it ceased to be relevant

if you called a black doctor a nigger on the other hand, likely he wouldn't just think you meant thug, and would probably (and rightly) be pissed off at you because you appear to be the kind of hateful retard who looks down on other people just because of genetic factors and backwards stereotypes.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 12:37:27 AM
It's almost as if the strategy is to bring down whites to the non-white level, and that would lead to something called "equality"

What the fuck is the "non white level"?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: MacFall on August 31, 2008, 12:41:12 AM
1. It's not my fault that people are ignorant of the etymology and history of their language.

2. The fact that I'd never call a doctor a nigger rather proves my point about the correct meaning of the word.

3. I really, really, really don't care if some people get offended by what I have to say. I don't try to offend people, and I cannot accept any responsibility for their decision to be offended.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 31, 2008, 12:41:46 AM
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As for black people having been fucked over- they can hold themselves to blame for that shit

Despicable, truly despicable.

Wouldn't want to leave out some important details or anything...

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As I've said, at least in my case, it isn't directed at anyone but the individual. As for black people having been fucked over- they can hold themselves to blame for that shit as they have become their own worse enemies doing far greater damage to one another than any other racial group has ever issued them.

Blacks kill one another far more often than any other group kill blacks.
Blacks rape one another far more often than any other group rape blacks.

Any clearer?

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If suddenly it was the hip thing to do, to become a violent cripple, and the legless and wheelchair bound began forming posses, and encouraging their crutch-bound associates, who then formally united with the mentally impaired, and all together such characters initiated acting their roles in the great drama that unfolded on peaceful citizens in the most dreadful of bloody manner, resulting in most severe cases of actual death for the peace-loving persons, then I say to you sir, that I would most indeed insult those fiends by placing verbal assaults on their various cases of unfit physical bodies!! !


..because after all, it might hurt their feelings. And since they were murderous fools, I don't really care.

As for calling a straight guy a "straighter" .. heck no! I call him a Feggit to make he angry wid me :)


You're taking this too seriously dude.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Lindsey on August 31, 2008, 01:15:44 AM
You know what?  This is why I never bother to fucking respond to things seriously.  Fuck you guys. 
Title: Re: Nigger
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Could you repeat that? I didn't quite get it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 01:43:57 AM
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Could you repeat that? I didn't quite get it.

Jason Sorens.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on August 31, 2008, 01:48:04 AM
You'd dick him up the ass in two seconds.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on August 31, 2008, 01:28:55 PM
3. I really, really, really don't care if some people get offended by what I have to say. I don't try to offend people, and I cannot accept any responsibility for their decision to be offended.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 01:32:42 PM
You'd dick him up the ass in two seconds.

Only because he looks like he wants it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 02:50:14 PM
It's almost as if the strategy is to bring down whites to the non-white level, and that would lead to something called "equality"

What the fuck is the "non white level"?
The interesting thing about Liberty-minded people is that they know if we were to get in charge, and pull the plug on welfare, those precious "minorities" would waste away...and the west would become white, again....but a bunch of libertarian whites continue to glorify the non-white as "equal". It's ridiculous.

glorify non-whites as equal?

whether your black or white is a completely non issue. there is no equality in race because its not a measurement of any value.

All things being equal, a white man and a black man are exactly the same in any way that matters. Looks don't mean shit, actions are the only thing that matters.

a good black man is better than a bad white man and a good white man is  better than a bad black man. the fact that they are good or bad is the only important issue, and since the majority of all races are peaceful people, it would be incredibly retarded to assume someone wasn't just because of their race.

Theres no white level or non white level, neither matters, the fact you think there could be some inherent differences between whites and blacks besides basic genetics is fucking retarded.


Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on August 31, 2008, 04:21:24 PM
I just don't like the way they smell. It's that simple.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 31, 2008, 07:41:22 PM
All things being equal, a white man and a black man are exactly the same in any way that matters. Looks don't mean shit, actions are the only thing that matters.

The first sentence is false, as NO men are created equal! I've always thought that little quote to be hilarious.

The second sentence is correct.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Rusty Nut on August 31, 2008, 07:43:31 PM
If a person is acting like a nigger I have a history of calling them out.  For instance, I was walking down east colfax here in Denver.  Anyone here from Colorado will know the place, run down liquor stores and motels, drug dealers, hookers all that shit.   I look across the street and see a white man waiting at a bus stop, behind him I spot a cracked out black man creeping up on him with something in his hand.  I yelled numerous racial slurs at that piece of shit and he turned tail and took off.  There were lots of black people around they really didn't give a shit.  Fuck it.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 07:53:42 PM
All things being equal, a white man and a black man are exactly the same in any way that matters. Looks don't mean shit, actions are the only thing that matters.

The first sentence is false, as NO men are created equal! I've always thought that little quote to be hilarious.

The second sentence is correct.

Do you not understand the term of all things being equal. I'm not saying they are, im saying if every aspect is equal bar race, their courage, loyalty, intelligence, physical stamina, height, etc, then the difference of race is a meaningless one.

another example would be, all things being equal, I would prefer a blue car to a red car.

I would have to be a grade A retard to think all humans where equal/the same. clearly its not the case. I already accepted there are more black criminals per 1,000 than whites, but the fact  is over 50% of every race is predominantly peaceful, and don't hurt anyone else.

you STILL haven't given me ANY reason to think about black people as a "problem group". You've said many times you don't want to treat them any differently, so what changes in the government

If you want to start a organization trying to police violent black people, then go ahead, I think you're reasons for it are far less logical than you'd like to think, but I have no problem with you trying to protect people against violent people of any race, it just seems you spend alot of time talking about how bad a problem it is, and you always claim you don't want to treat people dif

Its the equivalent of talking about how many murderous humans there are, look at the statistics! humans are really violent things, compared to rocks or trees, they kill and injure millions of people.

whats the point? whats the end game? Yes black people in america are statistically more likely to commit crime, but its not a big enough statistic for it to alter the way i treat or think of black people in any way.

If we're talking statistics, from my personal experience, 99.999% of people, from any gender, race, shape or size, are extremely stupid, restrictive, unambitious pricks, that I want nothing to do with, so trying to decipher any pattern would be extremely prohibitive to my personal interaction.

I'm not going to treat one demographic any differently from the other, because they are so huge, containing millions of people, that there are likely black men, asian women, ginger white kids, that I would really love to meet, and thinking "oh this person is slightly more likely to be violent is retarded"

Yes there are dense city areas that are violent places, but the violence is the problem not the race. As I stated before, the town I live in has a non-white population of 4%, and it has the 3rd highest murder rate in the country, the 1st and 2nd being dense inner city areas, but do I think it necessary to focus on the dangers of violent whites? no.

I know where the rough places are, I know where I wouldn't want to be walking late on a friday night/saturday morning, the demographics of the people involved are a complete non issue for me.

you said yourself its not genetic, you said yourself you don't want to treat black people any differently. In China, your much more likely to be assaulted by someone of Chinese decent than any other demographic, does it bear thinking about when you're in china? no.

Seriously, you're going to need more of a point if you're gonna look like anything more than a guy who has a craw in his foot about black people in general.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 07:54:19 PM
All things being equal, a white man and a black man are exactly the same in any way that matters. Looks don't mean shit, actions are the only thing that matters.

The first sentence is false, as NO men are created equal! I've always thought that little quote to be hilarious.

The second sentence is correct.

Do you not understand the term of all things being equal. I'm not saying they are, im saying if every aspect is equal bar race, their courage, loyalty, intelligence, physical stamina, height, etc, then the difference of race is a meaningless one.

another example would be, all things being equal, I would prefer a blue car to a red car.

I would have to be a grade A retard to think all humans where equal/the same. clearly its not the case. I already accepted there are more black criminals per 1,000 than whites, but the fact  is over 50% of every race is predominantly peaceful, and don't hurt anyone else.

you STILL haven't given me ANY reason to think about black people as a "problem group". You've said many times you don't want to treat them any differently, so what changes in the government

If you want to start a organization trying to police violent black people, then go ahead, I think you're reasons for it are far less logical than you'd like to think, but I have no problem with you trying to protect people against violent people of any race, it just seems you spend alot of time talking about how bad a problem it is, and you always claim you don't want to treat people dif

Its the equivalent of talking about how many murderous humans there are, look at the statistics! humans are really violent things, compared to rocks or trees, they kill and injure millions of people.

whats the point? whats the end game? Yes black people in america are statistically more likely to commit crime, but its not a big enough statistic for it to alter the way i treat or think of black people in any way.

If we're talking statistics, from my personal experience, 99.999% of people, from any gender, race, shape or size, are extremely stupid, restrictive, unambitious pricks, that I want nothing to do with, so trying to decipher any pattern would be extremely prohibitive to my personal interaction.

I'm not going to treat one demographic any differently from the other, because they are so huge, containing millions of people, that there are likely black men, asian women, ginger white kids, that I would really love to meet, and thinking "oh this person is slightly more likely to be violent is retarded"

Yes there are dense city areas that are violent places, but the violence is the problem not the race. As I stated before, the town I live in has a non-white population of 4%, and it has the 3rd highest murder rate in the country, the 1st and 2nd being dense inner city areas, but do I think it necessary to focus on the dangers of violent whites? no.

I know where the rough places are, I know where I wouldn't want to be walking late on a friday night/saturday morning, the demographics of the people involved are a complete non issue for me.

you said yourself its not genetic, you said yourself you don't want to treat black people any differently. In China, your much more likely to be assaulted by someone of Chinese decent than any other demographic, does it bear thinking about when you're in china? no.

Seriously, you're going to need more of a point if you're gonna look like anything more than a guy who has a craw in his foot about black people in general.

STOP BEING A FUCKING NIGGER, YOU NIGGER!
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 07:57:57 PM
If a person is acting like a nigger I have a history of calling them out.  For instance, I was walking down east colfax here in Denver.  Anyone here from Colorado will know the place, run down liquor stores and motels, drug dealers, hookers all that shit.   I look across the street and see a white man waiting at a bus stop, behind him I spot a cracked out black man creeping up on him with something in his hand.  I yelled numerous racial slurs at that piece of shit and he turned tail and took off.  There were lots of black people around they really didn't give a shit.  Fuck it.

Whats this continual bullshit about co opting nigger to be a behavioral description, or, if a persons black, then calling him a nigger is just insulting him, you don't have to hate his race.

Its fucking retarded.

If I decide I want faggot or queer, to now mean when someone has been lying or cheating, I'm still going to look like a homophobe if i say it to a gay guy, but insist I don't care that he's gay, im just mean he's acting like a faggot.

Its such a crock of shit that you're only calling a black guy a nigger because you're insulting him anyway, and anything goes.

When you insult a white person do you call them a cracker? no, because their race doesn't matter to you, and you assume it doesn't matter to them, since your both white. The only reason you'd use nigger, instead of asshole or mother fucker, is if you thought that the connection of race might mean shit.

Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
STOP BEING A FUCKING NIGGER, YOU NIGGER!

nigger?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
STOP BEING A FUCKING NIGGER, YOU NIGGER!

nigger?

STOP
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 08:03:15 PM
JUST BECAUSE YOUR BLACK, YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION ON THE SUBJECT. FUCK THAT NOISE.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 08:05:20 PM
JUST BECAUSE YOUR BLACK, YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION ON THE SUBJECT. FUCK THAT NOISE.

i don't know if this is a joke, but I'm not black

me =! my avatar.

nigger
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 08:08:53 PM
JUST BECAUSE YOUR BLACK, YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION ON THE SUBJECT. FUCK THAT NOISE.

i don't know if this is a joke, but I'm not black

me =! my avatar.

nigger

Whatever, nigger.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Rusty Nut on August 31, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
He was acting like a NIGGER so fuck him.  When you see a guy with a mullet sportin' a ranchero with a load of transmissions in the back do you think to yourself "there goes some white trash"?  Yeah you probably do, just like if I see a man walking up behind another man with a shank in his hand I think "well there goes a nigger".  
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogOn on August 31, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
He was acting like a NIGGER so fuck him.  When you see a guy with a mullet sportin' a ranchero with a load of transmissions in the back do you think to yourself "there goes some white trash"?  Yeah you probably do, just like if I see a man walking up behind another man with a shank in his hand I think "well there goes a nigger".  

white trash and nigger aren't equivocal terms.

If you call a white doctor white trash, they likely won't be bothered by it, because white trash is an insult about behaviour/class, and they're so far removed from the idea of white trash, it would be like if i called an Olympic athlete a cripple.

If you call a black doctor a nigger, 99% of the time they're going to assume that their race has something to do with it.

Fact is, white people don't insult other white people using race, black people don't insult other black people with nigger either

Racial slurs only get their charge from the idea that one race could be the source of inferiority or negativity.

Trying to co opt nigger as a non racist term is fucking retarded. If a black guy is acting like a thug, call him a thug, if the race is not an issue to you then you're not

I don't have a problem with the word nigger in itself, and i don't have a problem with people using nigger when they're not being racist, but using nigger against black people and claiming you're not being racist is fucking retarded. Its not what you think it means, its what the person hearing it does. If you scream I'M GOING TO KILL YOU at someone, then even if you mean I want to give you a big hug, the context is going to indicate you want to kill them.

There are white people who can say nigger around black people and no one will take offense, cause they know each other and they know theres no issue of racism.

Point is its dumb using nigger against black people if you don't care about their race, because you don't care about white peoples race and you never call them crackers, the only reason nigger can work against a black person as an insult is if you're not black and it has the charge of racial hatred.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: JWI on August 31, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
(http://www.teesforall.com/images/Humor_Cracker_White_Shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Riddler on August 31, 2008, 08:43:12 PM
" i got love for the nigga, but, nigga please"
                                                         -ODB
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 08:44:13 PM
" i got love for the nigga, but, nigga please"
                                                         -ODB

I'd let him father my children.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Riddler on August 31, 2008, 08:46:02 PM
" i got love for the nigga, but, nigga please"
                                                         -ODB

I'd let him father my children.


you'll hafta dig 'im up
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on August 31, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
" i got love for the nigga, but, nigga please"
                                                         -ODB

I'd let him father my children.


you'll hafta dig 'im up

I'll get Attis to do the DNA recombining.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Rusty Nut on August 31, 2008, 09:00:18 PM
I don't think I ever claimed that nigger is not a racist term, it is racist and I acknowledge that and accept the fact that I am slightly racist. I just call it how I see it man.  I have no qualms with it nor do I have shame.  What's more effective, "hey you NIGGER piece of shit wtf do you think you're doing?" or "hey you THUG piece of shit wtf do you think you're doing?".  Answer's fuckin' obvious, that nigger deserved to be called a nigger.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Rusty Nut on August 31, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
See I'm not a white supremacist like that guy,  I just think some black people are niggers...is that so bad really?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on August 31, 2008, 10:35:35 PM
you STILL haven't given me ANY reason to think about black people as a "problem group". You've said many times you don't want to treat them any differently, so what changes in the government

and

Seriously, you're going to need more of a point if you're gonna look like anything more than a guy who has a craw in his foot about black people in general.

Don't know where you might have missed the answer, especially since you have acknowledged the truth that a significant portion of black people are more prone to violent behaviour as compared to not only white people, but every other ethnicity. So there it is - my official answer regarding the "problem group" issue. To clarify further, I've said since my initial post in response to you that I do not consider all black people members of this "problem group".

Again, I don't have a problem with black people in general. Trash from any community is worthless in my opinion, its color makes no difference.

Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Lindsey on August 31, 2008, 11:54:28 PM
I give up. 
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on September 01, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
I believe that people created racism.  It is not a natural belief, because in reality we are all human.  We are all made of the same materials.  Once upon a time, somebody thought up the word nigger, and at some point decided that it would be used as a derogatory slang term for black people.  If you put it in perspective, you'll realize that if that one thought had not occurred to that one person in that one moment in time, our culture would not be the way it is today.

We are all made of the same elements, sure. But we're still animals, and still have the same aggressive/passive/dominant/aggressive/survival instincts. These things play themselves out in the form of "racism" at times, though most of us get along well. It's already been mentioned that "niggardly" is the word that "nigger" has been derived from, and it at one time applied to anyone possessing certain qualities that seemed to make them inferior to educated, productive and civilized beings. Back in the old days, a few generations into slavery - and you had some people who couldn't possibly overcome their situation. They were uneducated, uncivilized - and probably were not productive outside of what labor was forced upon them- through no fault of their own. They were treated as animal stock.

If it hadn't been someone thinking up that word and/or applying it to black people of that condition, then it would simply have been a different word.

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I also feel that the black culture as a whole is flawed in the way that "they" tend to carry a chip on their shoulder, so to speak.  I find that many seek restitution, and act as if they have a right to be treated differently because of events in our world's past.  Many other races were enslaved in the past.  Many still are enslaved, not according to race.  Not according to much, necessarily.  But I don't think that means everyone should have to tip toe around the issue.  That's ridiculous.  Nigger is a word, and it is nothing without intent.  But even I have to admit, I've never used the word nigger and not had a thought at the very least in the back of my mind about black people.  The fact of the matter is that I never enslaved a black person, so therefore I do not owe them anything more than the common respect I would give to anyone until they give me a reason not to.

The natural reaction to receiving aggression is to become defensive, and likely aggressive in return. In your statement above, it's a cycle. You are a little defensive because a lot of black folk tend to have a "chip on their shoulder". To those types, you're probably perceived as some privileged white girl - and that in itself is some sort of aggression towards them, the fact that you might have it easy, or might have something they haven't.

Many whites (Russian, European) were sent to sugar cane plantations in the Mediterranean along with African slaves (who were gained from African slave traders). Slavery still exists, and if the focus and care was truly about slavery, then the efforts of many of these people would be focused on ending all types of slavery - not gaining reparations for the slavery of certain ancestors.

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I grew up in a household where nigger was a commonly used word.  My father used it a lot, but claimed not to be racist.  He always said there was a difference between black people and niggers.  I suppose he is correct, people are different.  But why is it acceptable to differentiate between white people and crackers, and not okay to differentiate between black people and niggers?

I haven't heard anyone attempt to differentiate the difference between white people and "crackers". I've been called White Devil, White Boy, Whitey, Honky and Cracker.. the meanings are all the same, unless the person was joking.

It's entirely likely hat your ol man wasn't racist, just as the people who post "nigger" on this board aren't. That memory will haunt you though due to todays rampant PCness. But on the other hand, black households that have fathers whom use the word "cracker" or whatnot - there just isn't any stigma attached to that, no worries. And that's also because of the PCness.

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I have to admit, I don't like the connotation of the word now, itself - but I do use the word.  I do not use it to malign black people.  I don't even have a valid reason for using it, other than it being habit that I picked up from a very young age.  For example, when I drive - I have moderate road rage.  Sometimes I scream "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY YOU FUCKING NIGGER" when I can plainly see that it is not a black person.  Now that I see it in print, I see that I have inadvertently demeaned a person for no other reason that I know that word is generally intended to be derogatory in its meaning, and the fact that the individual it was pointed at obviously sucks at driving, according to me.

I rarely ever have or do use the word, yet I'm called racist anyway for merely being critical. Go figure!

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I'm going to stop typing now, because I'm losing my train of thought and I feel that I am straying from a topic that I am seriously attempting to address.  Especially since most of my attempts at serious replies here are ignored in lieu of pictures of my breasts.   :lol:

Uhhmm.. can we.. ahh nevermind! :)
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Rusty Nut on September 01, 2008, 03:13:41 AM
See I'm not a white supremacist like that guy,  I just think some black people are niggers...is that so bad really?

It's not even about white supremacy. If the government does not drop Affirmative Action type laws that legally discriminates against white guys, then I will continue to talk about the non whites, nigger whites, fags, feminists and organized jews as bottom barrel scum for their complicity and design of such outrageous laws.

It's time for white guys to wake up and take out the trash.

Yes I hate fuckers who wield/attempt to wield the monopoly force of government as well man but you come off as a bit of a supremacist.

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If white men were to be left alone, the non-whites would be rotting under the sun.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on September 01, 2008, 04:32:11 PM
See I'm not a white supremacist like that guy,  I just think some black people are niggers...is that so bad really?

Not at all.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on September 01, 2008, 05:45:54 PM
6 pages discussing a fucking word.  :?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: mikehz on September 02, 2008, 12:00:04 AM
I consider it a vulgarity, and don't use it. Or any other word I consider vulgar or offensive.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on September 02, 2008, 02:29:48 PM
I consider it a vulgarity, and don't use it. Or any other word I consider vulgar or offensive.

How about 'shucks'?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on September 02, 2008, 05:21:38 PM
So does anyone else just not like the way they smell?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on September 02, 2008, 05:30:47 PM
Once was too many times for that crack.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on September 02, 2008, 05:55:01 PM
Once was too many times for that crack.

Who says I'm making a crack?
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on September 02, 2008, 06:04:35 PM
I do.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on September 02, 2008, 06:05:43 PM
Then you're wrong.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: trollfreezone on September 02, 2008, 06:10:54 PM
No.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Taors on September 02, 2008, 06:56:52 PM
Okay.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on September 02, 2008, 09:03:17 PM
I realize that this sort of talk puts me on the verge of getting banned, and I will admit that I check out the news and articles section on Stormfront, and I also check out some other white power sites even though I find them to be sometimes obnoxious. I also check out conservative sites that deal with this taboo, yet are not considered full blown white power sites.

The thing is...there is an effort going on to manipulate white men and boys with political rhetoric that is far from positive. Affirmative Action is the most offensive manifestation of this garbage, because it makes it officially legal to discriminate against white males. I have a hard time believing that Affirmative Action and similar laws exist. AA is so amazingly unbelievable, yet most politicians and civil rights groups continue to be quiet on this issue. I am no longer intimidated by this taboo, and I am happy to deal with the relevant issues designed to make life more difficult for white guys and white families, regardless of the connection that these issues have with a percentage of whites who may desire some kind of white global domination.

White guys have invested a lot of energy into building up the west, and to think that we gave women and minorities equal rights, only to have some of our rights taken away...is amazing. Affirmative Action is an attempt to limit our ability to provide for ourselves and our families. This is a very serious liberty-based issue. White guys need to address this issue clearly, before the diabolical filth ruins the west with that lesser intelligence.

Thought someone would have jumped on you for this by now :)

I haven't been to Stormfront in some time. Last time I browsed, there was an awful lot of the establishment of some sort of pecking order going on, as in -White- -Whiter- -Whitest- & -Whiter Than You!- Too much infighting, and too many swastikas for my liking. And, there was an awful lot of praise of white folk no matter what.

I don't align myself with white people just because they are white. There is White Trash, and to me they're just a different bunch of trash.

I do agree with you entirely on AA, and the blatant manipulation of the image of white males.. that we are to view ourselves as oppressive, privileged and weak, etc. Not just aimed directly toward white men always, but more at whites in general, there is a pressure to be all-inclusive. From kids shows (particularly those on PBS), cereal boxes, everything. Meanwhile, there is no backlash to any group practicing exclusion when minorities are the primary target.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: DogCow on October 05, 2008, 11:13:14 AM
When we go so far to call it the "N" word we give it too much credit... too much power.  People are insulted by using "coon" or "spear chucker" (remember the Spear Chucker Jones from the original M.A.S.H. movie).  Those are just words.  I'm sure someone will be offended because of the thoughts in my head or the sports teams that I follow (the Red Sox).

Let's just remember, I'm an old, fat, cranky man with a large German Shepherd.  That has to upset someone on its face.  I don't have to open my mouth.

Don't give words that much power.  Besides... we are all niggers on the government's plantation.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Riddler on October 05, 2008, 12:39:41 PM
When we go so far to call it the "N" word we give it too much credit... too much power.  People are insulted by using "coon" or "spear chucker" (remember the Spear Chucker Jones from the original M.A.S.H. movie).  Those are just words.  I'm sure someone will be offended because of the thoughts in my head or the sports teams that I follow (the Red Sox).

Let's just remember, I'm an old, fat, cranky man with a large German Shepherd.  That has to upset someone on its face.  I don't have to open my mouth.

Don't give words that much power.  Besides... we are all niggers on the government's plantation.



shit negoe, that's all you had ta say.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: AntonLee on October 05, 2008, 02:32:26 PM
+1 for pulp fiction quotes.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on October 05, 2008, 02:34:55 PM
we are all niggers on the government's plantation.

QFT big-time.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: hellbilly on October 05, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
Besides... we are all niggers on the government's plantation.

Naww.. that's a slave. I'd say there were numerous slaves who had more intelligence and integrity back then (even given their social status and difficulties) than many niggers have today (even given their social status and appeasements).
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Riddler on October 05, 2008, 09:13:02 PM
nigger is, as nigger does, mrs. gump.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: BonerJoe on September 10, 2010, 11:44:59 PM
Bump.
Title: Re: Nigger
Post by: Riddler on September 11, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
so, niggaaaaazz.
z'been a while...
what iz  you nig-nogs up-in-to?

iz been so long since all da shit gaht throwed down about this-in-here, ''nigger''...or ''nigga'' word bein used on this-here forum.

we should have a celebration.

that cooler heads prevailed.......finally.
that we can all sit around the interweb campfire & just chill-the-shit-out.
that i can say to ken, ''yo ,nigga....wass-up?
and, finally........we can all, ''get along''
i have officially raised my glass.