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How much will you contribute to Bob Barr's campaign if he gets the LP nomination (and no other noteworthy libertarians stay in the final race)?

Nothing, not even my vote
- 32 (57.1%)
Nothing except my vote
- 10 (17.9%)
Less than $10 (and my vote)
- 0 (0%)
$10 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$20 or more
- 0 (0%)
$30 or more
- 0 (0%)
$50 or more
- 2 (3.6%)
$75 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$100 or more
- 2 (3.6%)
$200 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$300 or more
- 0 (0%)
$500 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$1000 or more
- 0 (0%)
$1500 or more
- 0 (0%)
$2000 or more
- 0 (0%)
The legal maximum
- 1 (1.8%)
I'm ineligible to donate / vote in U.S.
- 5 (8.9%)

Total Members Voted: 24


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mikehz

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2008, 05:45:48 PM »

Bob Barr? BOB BARR?!

This may be the first time in over 30 years I have not voted for the LP candidate.

I'm wondering if this isn't a Republican plot to keep the Libertarian voters from splitting the ticket. The LP usually takes votes away from the Republicans. But many libertarians have stated that they will not vote for Barr.

Barr's campaign manager looks like Satan.
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Porcupine_in_MA

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2008, 05:48:07 PM »

Bob Barr? BOB BARR?!

This may be the first time in over 30 years I have not voted for the LP candidate.

I'm wondering if this isn't a Republican plot to keep the Libertarian voters from splitting the ticket. The LP usually takes votes away from the Republicans. But many libertarians have stated that they will not vote for Barr.

Barr's campaign manager looks like Satan.

This will be my first time since I joined in 95 that I won't be voting for the LP candidate. Barr's campaign manager looks like Satan and Barr looks like a cartoon bunny rabbit...the...horror....the......horror.
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BonerJoe

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2008, 05:52:24 PM »

TIM CONDON ENDORSES BOB BARR.
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NHArticleTen

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2008, 05:57:15 PM »


If there are actually "elections" I'll be writing in Ron Paul for President and Clint Eastwood for VP...

I'll be amazed if we're not in martial law and shtf fubar condition one by then...






-nevertheend-
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2008, 06:09:26 PM »

You people don't understand the difference between libertarian philosophy and libertarian politics.  The goal of LP shouldn't be to offer voters an instant libertarian utopia - which most Americans will react to by grabbing their pitchforks and putting the D&R socialists back in power.  Its goal should be to offer an alternative that is more libertarian than the two big bad socialist parties, and to compete with them for votes, including the votes of the people who aren't fully-baked libertarians yet.

Barr could bring more people to the party than anyone else, and since Ruwart supporters were sitting on their ass doing nothing I knew he'll get the nomination.  I like him less than 3-4 other LP candidates, but what can ya do...  So, yes, unless Ruwart purists get off their rear ends and start something like a Free State Party, Barr is the person I'll be voting for in November.
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2008, 06:13:38 PM »

35 minutes from Barr's nomination to the first apologist post. I expected a better response time from you, Alex.
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Porcupine_in_MA

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2008, 06:18:38 PM »

You people don't understand the difference between libertarian philosophy and libertarian politics.  The goal of LP shouldn't be to offer voters an instant libertarian utopia - which most Americans will react to by grabbing their pitchforks and putting the D&R socialists back in power. 


Alex how long have you been involved in the LP? Since when has the LP's goal EVER been to offer instant libertopia?
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »

35 minutes from Barr's nomination to the first apologist post. I expected a better response time from you, Alex.

I have a life you know.


Alex how long have you been involved in the LP? Since when has the LP's goal EVER been to offer instant libertopia?

That's what people like Ian seem to expect it to do...
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Taors

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« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2008, 06:35:01 PM »

*Starts humming Taps*
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #99 on: May 25, 2008, 06:39:21 PM »

The purpose of the LP ought to be to present itself as a true "Party of Principle," and by doing so goad the other parties toward freedom. There is no shortage of parties that compromise liberty. If I want to be a Republican, I'll vote Republican.
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JWI

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2008, 06:42:14 PM »

At what point does the LP abandon the idea of no income tax for a "Fair Tax" or a more fair tax system?

Oh wait, it's already happening.

So long LP, it was nice to know ya.
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2008, 06:45:50 PM »

LP can have a Principled wing (or several of them) and a Realist wing.  This year the realists won, and it's probably for the best.  We can continue Ron Paul's momentum, take a big-ass bite out of McCain, and maybe get SEVERAL TIMES more votes than LP has ever received before!
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2008, 06:49:16 PM »

Fortunately, the "realists" didn't win the day in 1776.
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JWI

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« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2008, 06:50:35 PM »

and the LP will prove that people don't actually want anything different.  That people don't actually believe nor want to live without an income tax.  The LP will become the third head of the same beast but spit out different rhetoric.

It's been heading this way for a long time, at least 15 years that I've seen.

Now the LP will be nothing but a bunch of "liberty" cheerleaders.  They still won't get elected but claim their few percentage point gain while sacrificing their principles is progress.

This "wing" theory is the same crap that led many people to abandon the Ds and Rs.  Congrats LP, you've destroyed yourself.
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2008, 06:52:01 PM »

Fortunately, the "realists" didn't win the day in 1776.

Yes they did.
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