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How much will you contribute to Bob Barr's campaign if he gets the LP nomination (and no other noteworthy libertarians stay in the final race)?

Nothing, not even my vote
- 32 (57.1%)
Nothing except my vote
- 10 (17.9%)
Less than $10 (and my vote)
- 0 (0%)
$10 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$20 or more
- 0 (0%)
$30 or more
- 0 (0%)
$50 or more
- 2 (3.6%)
$75 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$100 or more
- 2 (3.6%)
$200 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$300 or more
- 0 (0%)
$500 or more
- 1 (1.8%)
$1000 or more
- 0 (0%)
$1500 or more
- 0 (0%)
$2000 or more
- 0 (0%)
The legal maximum
- 1 (1.8%)
I'm ineligible to donate / vote in U.S.
- 5 (8.9%)

Total Members Voted: 24


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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2008, 01:59:56 PM »
Admission of guilt!  :lol:
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JWI

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2008, 02:18:14 PM »
Excuse me for being horny and liking old men.

Doesn't McCain look like Popeye?
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Taors

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »
Quote from: JWI on May 15, 2008, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: Alex Libman on May 15, 2008, 11:25:59 AM
What are YOU doing to reduce government force?

Not voting for Bob Barr.

A non-vote for Bob Barr is a vote for liberty.
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2008, 08:32:50 PM »
If this Barr character wins the LP nomination it might be the first time in about 35 years that I have not voted libertarian.

I'll either not vote, or will write in Ron Paul.
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rabidfurby

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2008, 08:40:10 PM »
Barr getting nominated would be the final nail in the coffin of the LP's principles.
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2008, 12:05:10 AM »
Barr already said he didn't support any of those things at the Federal level.
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rabidfurby

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2008, 12:48:16 AM »
Quote from: Joel on May 16, 2008, 12:05:10 AM
Barr already said he didn't support any of those things at the Federal level.

He doesn't oppose them, either, though. The LP candidate should be whoever can most effectively draw new people into the liberty movement - think of all the people there are now who were introduced to liberty from Harry Browne's campaigns.

Then in 2004, Badnarik won the nomination, although he was considered the underdog before the convention, based mainly on his performance at the debate. People saw that he was effective in communicating liberty, and voted to nominate him.

Ron Paul, although I disagree with him on a lot of things, was pretty goddamn effective at getting people to follow him. A fair number of them will be burned-out after the 2008 campaign, but at least of a few of them will become libertarians in the long-term.

We won't get that with Barr. People will see another fucking politician spewing useless fucking rhetoric, and not telling them anything they haven't heard before. The LP candidate will no longer be a stand-out who attracts people who finally realize "wait a minute, this is fucking retarded". He'll be just another talking head in a sea of talking heads.
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2008, 09:31:15 AM »
Federalism is complicated.  Let's get high!
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Taors

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2008, 01:35:01 PM »
Quote from: rabidfurby on May 16, 2008, 12:48:16 AM
Quote from: Joel on May 16, 2008, 12:05:10 AM
Barr already said he didn't support any of those things at the Federal level.

He doesn't oppose them, either, though. The LP candidate should be whoever can most effectively draw new people into the liberty movement - think of all the people there are now who were introduced to liberty from Harry Browne's campaigns.

Then in 2004, Badnarik won the nomination, although he was considered the underdog before the convention, based mainly on his performance at the debate. People saw that he was effective in communicating liberty, and voted to nominate him.

Ron Paul, although I disagree with him on a lot of things, was pretty goddamn effective at getting people to follow him. A fair number of them will be burned-out after the 2008 campaign, but at least of a few of them will become libertarians in the long-term.

We won't get that with Barr. People will see another fucking politician spewing useless fucking rhetoric, and not telling them anything they haven't heard before. The LP candidate will no longer be a stand-out who attracts people who finally realize "wait a minute, this is fucking retarded". He'll be just another talking head in a sea of talking heads.

Bingo.
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2008, 05:47:47 PM »
Bad news - Danny-the-Retard endorsed Barr...

And so did this guy:


 :lol:
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2008, 09:50:48 PM »
Screw elections and screw political Libertarianism. Barr gets zilch from me.
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AntonLee

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #86 on: May 25, 2008, 09:03:10 AM »
he really does talk a good game, that barr fellow.

I loved that the DOMA act. . . the one he helped to author. . . was flawed and needed to be fixed.  Hmm.
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #87 on: May 25, 2008, 09:25:50 AM »
Quote from: Alex Libman on May 13, 2008, 01:42:32 AM
People change.  Didn't you see that YouTube video of Barr on shrooms signing Amazing Grace and sobbing frantically?  :lol:

That Amazing Grace YouTube better be good...
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Alex Libman

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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2008, 05:35:40 PM »
Barr 324, Ruwart 276 in Round 6, we have a winner!
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Re: Lower the Barr?
« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2008, 05:39:14 PM »
Do we?  I was under the impression that everybody loses.
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