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Total Members Voted: 24

[Alex Libman]

You chose drugs over liberty.  Congradz.

[Ecolitan]

The Drug War is the biggest threat to liberty.  War on Terror doesn't yet equal it.

[rabidfurby]

It's not about drugs. Drugs are just one of the things he's least principled about, so it was easy to find a quote from him about them. If I could find statements (which I'm sure I could if I looked hard enough, and if not I'll just have to wait a few weeks) saying that he supports the War in Iraq, deporting illegal immigrants, national ID cards, etc., I would have quoted him on that too.

All of these things are absolutely, positively, 100% cut-and-dried libertarian issues. You cannot support them and be a libertarian. End of story.

I'd be willing to accept people into the LP who aren't yet fully convinced on these issues, but Babar isn't just a LP member anymore. He's the person who essentially represents libertarianism to the unwashed masses. There is no fucking excuse for supporting the Drug War.

[Alex Libman]

OK, I'm sure Obama and McCain are grateful to you for your support.

[JWI]

OK, I'm sure Obama and McCain are grateful to you for your support.

I'm sure they are too.  I'm sure socialist-lite Bob Barr is grateful for yours.

[Ecolitan]

OK, I'm sure Obama and McCain are grateful to you for your support.

Of course...  You're either with Bob Barr or your with the terrorists.

[rabidfurby]

OK, I'm sure Obama and McCain are grateful to you for your support.

Leave the "you're either with us or against us" bullshit to the neocons. They're much better at it:

HANNITY: All right. But — so then if you take 3 percent of the vote away from Senator McCain in a close election, and then Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama get elected. And that means that you're going to get Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court, you're going to get higher taxes, you're going to get nationalized health care, you're going to get open borders. You're not going to feel guilty the morning after election night?

[Alex Libman]

Who are you going to vote for if not Barr - that is the question.  Not voting at all clearly supports McCain / Obama.  Writing in someone who isn't running is just as pointless.  No one supported my "Free State Party" pitch.  So, what else is there?

You won't like the Constitution Party, their platform states (click for context): "We support legislation to stop the flow of illegal drugs into these United States from foreign sources. As a matter of self-defense, retaliatory policies including embargoes, sanctions, and tariffs, should be considered".

Have you druggies ever thought about voting Green or Socialist?  Those parties clearly fit your ideology best. 

[Ecolitan]

Who are you going to vote for if not Barr - that is the question.

Just like I did last time where the LP wasn't on the ballot in OK anyway.  Leave the president part blank and almost all the other races too.  Vote to get rid of all the judges.

[Alex Libman]

This failure to unite pisses me off to no end... 

Don't you see the strategy here, McCain's campaign could implode after the convention, and who to take better advantage of that than Barr!?

When the opponent expand, I contract, When he contracts, I expand, And when there is an opportunity, I do not hit - it hits all by itself. -- Bruce Lee

[JWI]

Who are you going to vote for if not Barr - that is the question.  Not voting at all clearly supports McCain / Obama.  Writing in someone who isn't running is just as pointless.  No one supported my "Free State Party" pitch.  So, what else is there?

You won't like the Constitution Party, their platform states (click for context): "We support legislation to stop the flow of illegal drugs into these United States from foreign sources. As a matter of self-defense, retaliatory policies including embargoes, sanctions, and tariffs, should be considered.".

Have you ever thought about voting Green or Socialist?  Those parties clearly fit your ideology best.

Not voting for someone is a choice.  Note that the LP has NOTA?  If no one individual supports your views then why should you be forced to vote for the least bad?  A non-vote is an individuals way of saying "no thanks, I don't want any of these bums."  Voting for the least bad person only makes the party think that is what you want.  It's certainly worked out well for the republicrats hasn't it?

Screw Bob Barr, screw the LP and screw those who are promoting the least bad candidate as a way of beating the other guys.  Gee that sounds like a familiar strategy, I wonder where I've heard that before.

HANNITY: All right. But — so then if you take 3 percent of the vote away from Senator McCain in a close election, and then Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama get elected. And that means that you're going to get Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court, you're going to get higher taxes, you're going to get nationalized health care, you're going to get open borders. You're not going to feel guilty the morning after election night?

[JWI]

This failure to unite pisses me off to no end... 

Run a decent principled candidate and there wouldn't be this problem.

[Ecolitan]

This failure to unite pisses me off to no end... 

It's OK.  I'm pissed too.  I'm pissed that the LP chose not to run a libertarian this year.

[BonerJoe]

I'm pissed that the LP chose not to run a libertarian this year.

What LP?

[rabidfurby]

Who are you going to vote for if not Barr - that is the question.  Not voting at all clearly supports McCain / Obama.  Writing in someone who isn't running is just as pointless.  No one supported my "Free State Party" pitch.  So, what else is there?

Voting at the national level is pointless libertarian masturbation. The expected value of a single vote is almost exactly zero.

I'll most likely vote in November, since I'll be in NH by then and there will likely be local races/initiatives where my vote actually has a minuscule chance at making a difference. So I'll probably do what I always do when there's no candidates I like - write in "none of the above". It's more honest than voting for Babar and equally likely to change anything.

Have you ever thought about voting Green or Socialist?  Those parties clearly fit your ideology best.

Wow, we've hit childish name-calling already. I thought it would take at least week or so before you conceded defeat.

This failure to unite pisses me off to no end... 

We're all individualists. That means we're libertarians first and Libertarians second (if at all). You can't expect us to form a nice orderly line behind The Anointed One the way Republicans and Democrats do.