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Free Talk Live => The Polling Pit => Topic started by: Cornfed on October 31, 2006, 11:25:51 AM
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My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian. I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
So, the question is, do you have kids? Is she right?
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I've known plenty of libertarians with kids. I have two of them. However, my oldest daughter, a libertarian, does not plan to have children.
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I've got a 3-year old daughter and a newborn son. I don't know the context of the quote, but it certainly doesn't resonate with me. In fact, I see libertarian ideals as the only hope for my kids. I shudder to think of the crushing tax burdens and loss of liberty that they will face as adults if we continue down the path towards socialism in this country.
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My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian. I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
So, the question is, do you have kids? Is she right?
With all due respect to your wife but that is just downright wrong. Most libertarians I've met have children and one of the big things they care about is what this country is going to be like when we have either a totally fascist state or a totally communist state or a combination of both in the near future while they (they're children) are grown. Another big one is having a free market of choices to educate their children with. Instead of the socialist indoctrination acadamies passing for "public" schools now.
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Libertarians with kids is just as likly as Blacks with the McRib. :lol:
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Have three children, and am very much a Libertarian. Officially became a Libertarian a few years after my oldest son was born, though I had always had been libertarian-leaning.
I think Libertarian parents just seem like such a minority because the number of Libertarians is already a small portion of the population.
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Have three children, and am very much a Libertarian. Officially became a Libertarian a few years after my oldest son was born, though I had always had been libertarian-leaning.
I think Libertarian parents just seem like such a minority because the number of Libertarians is already a small portion of the population.
A lot of people think that women become Libertarians after they have kids for that reason. I don't want to go into that with you. I'll just say, mothers want alot more respect that a single whore. That does not mean some mothers are not whores, and it sure as hell does not mean they are not idiots. :lol: Like I said joy, this is not aimed at you.
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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
i feel the same way
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libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
I believe this argument is known as a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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I don't have kids yet, and I haven't fully made up my mind if I want any at all. Nothing really to do with Libertarianism, but my main reason against having kids is my own PERSONAL freedom. I want to be able to do what I want when I want, without worrying about being responsible for another human being.
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My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian. I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
So, the question is, do you have kids? Is she right?
I'm only 20, of course I have no kids, not ready to settle down yet.
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I don't have kids, but I do plan on it when I'm out of school.
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35, no kids. Not plannin on having any.
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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
i feel the same way
Many American slaves thought the same way. Some even killed their kids is they would not have to live in a world without freedom.
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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into.
ever heard of http://vhemt.org/?
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I don't have kids yet, and I haven't fully made up my mind if I want any at all. Nothing really to do with Libertarianism, but my main reason against having kids is my own PERSONAL freedom. I want to be able to do what I want when I want, without worrying about being responsible for another human being.
Ditto, except I've made up my mind.
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Nah. I have a future in my three boys. I am determined to raise them as rationalists and freedom lovers. I promised them to never lie to them, therefore, I will not.
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20. No kids. If I ever meet someone with a really keen mind and really great genes, I might consider it.
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I look forward to raising my children to be open-minded, liberty loving, enemy combatants.
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I know other 17 year olds who have kids (my second best friend being one of them) and I know I'm not ready for that road yet.
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26, and being a tranny, I probably won't have kids, especially since I think my presence would probably be harmful to their survival and I'm just emotionally too unstable to be responsible for someone else, let alone me.
-- Bridget
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I shall explain to you why libertarians do not have kids. As you cocksmokers are against all forms of government, your ability to support those kids would vanish. No more fucking daycare. No more child-tax benefits. No more government-subsidised fucking medical care. You libertarian fucks then realise you are completely and utterly on your own. As there is no State for which you may serve, you cannot have children. There is no State to tell you to have kids or fuck off.
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So, you want white trash baby factories with their teeth kicked out by their abusive impotent husbands?
-- Bridget
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So, you want white trash baby factories with their teeth kicked out by their abusive impotent husbands?
-- Bridget
Spoken like a true liberal tranny piece-of-shit. Yours would not be allowed to exist within the boundaries of my fascist state. You would be exiled without notice of any kind. I will not have yours fucking up the minds of our fascist children. You cannot make up your mind about your own sex, therefore you have no right to be around our children. Fuck off and go suck a libertarian limp cock you liberal ass-licker.
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I have one miracle child. I wouldn't give him up for the world. I hope that he will be able to start having a family of his own when he is in his late twenties to early thirties. I don't want him to wait to late in life. I am limited by being so old when I finally was able to sustain a pregancy and have him. I have loads of Libertarian friends who have several children. If I could physically have another child I would have one more.
I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience. Kind of understand those who feel like it is wrong to bring kids into the current facist situation we are facing in this country with increasing government control.
The reason this bbs is lite on Libertarians with kids or planning to have kids and even those who sound anti-child is due to the average age of poster. I went from never wanting kids as a teen to tolarant as a twentysomething to actually wanting to have a child in my thirties. It is possible that others will go through similar stages.
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I have one miracle child. I wouldn't give him up for the world. I hope that he will be able to start having a family of his own when he is in his late twenties to early thirties. I don't want him to wait to late in life. I am limited by being so old when I finally was able to sustain a pregancy and have him. I have loads of Libertarian friends who have several children. If I could physically have another child I would have one more.
I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience. Kind of understand those who feel like it is wrong to bring kids into the current facist situation we are facing in this country with increasing government control.
The reason this bbs is lite on Libertarians with kids or planning to have kids and even those who sound anti-child is due to the average age of poster. I went from never wanting kids as a teen to tolarant as a twentysomething to actually wanting to have a child in my thirties. It is possible that others will go through similar stages.
Kind of understand those who feel like it is wrong to bring kids into the current facist situation we are facing in this country with increasing government control.
I love it when Americans are so stupid as to equate the current US political climate with that of fascism. This is proof libertarian fucks have not a clue what fascism is.
By the way, when you retire, earn your own way if you please. As a libertarian, you want nothing to do with the State remember? So when someone attempts to hand you a social-security or old-age cheque (whatever it is called in the U.S.A.), tell them to fuck off. You don't need the State's money. Tell the State you will pay your own way. You will continue working until the ripe old age of 100 years.
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Well lets see how Facism is defined
fascism
One entry found for fascism.
Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>
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Lets see extreme nationalism and militarism (check)
Centralized autocratic government, Federal Burea for just about everything taking control from the local level. (check)
Sever economic regimentation. Corporatism, adjusted tax minimum, eminent domain abuse, prohibition, fees, licences, and more.
Sever social regimentation, gay marriage bans, prohibition, victimless crimes, even sign ordinances and more.
Forcible suppression of opposition. Free Speech Zones anyone and the deliberate blackout on major media of Libertarian candidates.
You might say we don't have a dictator. However, was there a real chance in the last election both candidates sounded the same. Just because you get to pick your jailer doesn't mean you aren't still in jail. There is the growing aristocracy in politics today with pre-determined districks. When you have nearly half of all races are unoppossed, how can you say elections aren't rigged. The election of officials in those races are more like a corrination than an election.
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If you noticed I called it a facist situation. I didn't say we were a pure facist state and if you look at the examples provided above there is a good case that we have a facist situtation in this country.
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Libertarians with kids is just as likly as Blacks with the McRib. :lol:
Huh? :?
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I shall explain to you why libertarians do not have kids. As you cocksmokers are against all forms of government, your ability to support those kids would vanish..
No, it's because kids suck. :lol: :P
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I'm with the Hoser!
Now let's re-write the Bible. The state said let there be light.....and we are still waiting.
The time for shooting may be near, let's adjust our sights on the Saint.
SaintLucifer will say: Typical Libertarian bullshit, fuck fuck fuck, asshole, wimpy limp dick.
Saint, seriously, get some schooling in rhetoric. I am blushing over here!
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Spoken like a true liberal tranny piece-of-shit. Yours would not be allowed to exist within the boundaries of my fascist state.
Because I don't obey your rules? Good, do I get a party pack of cheese cubes, summer sausage and cheap wine?
You would be exiled without notice of any kind. I will not have yours fucking up the minds of our fascist children. You cannot make up your mind about your own sex, therefore you have no right to be around our children.
Tell that to my sister, who often considers me the best influence on her children, purely because I make them think. How do I make them think? Simple, I don't fucking talk down to them. You would probably treat your kids like robots rather than trying to actually discipline them and give them the necessary tools to function among their fellow mammaloids.
Fuck off and go suck a libertarian limp cock you liberal ass-licker.
I prefer chicks, dude, but thanks anyways. ^_^
-- Bridget
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So, the question is, do you have kids?
See: http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=6874.0
Is she right?
Apparently not. She just infers that people with kids will naturally want to use the government to force other people to pay for/protect them, and in that regard she is mistaken.
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Actually, I think more people want the government not interfering in the affairs of parenting much anymore. Sure, there are those that want the free education and other handouts, but on the whole I've noticed most folks prefer to be left well alone as much as possible. And I don't think it's due to them being abusive parents, rather that they want to ensure the safety of their children, which the government in recent history has shown the lack of ability to do so [Columbine and etc]. So, if I ever become a parent, which is unlikely but not out of the set of possibilities, I definitely will make sure the government stays the clear the fuck away from my kids.
-- Bridget
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Sure, there are those that want the free education and other handouts, but on the whole I've noticed most folks prefer to be left well alone as much as possible.
I was thinking about all of the legislation that gets passed in the name of "the children." "We have to protect the children! Ban porn! Ban drugs! Ban guns!" etc.
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Yeah, that's a fucking retarded hat trick and I often will vote against anything that pulls it just on principle [the same for ad hominen(sp?) and other fallacies...]. Some people [usually dumb people that usually vote (cause dumb people often do)] think the state can protect kids from anything, when in reality the only thing the state can protect a kid from is an invading army and that's it. If I see tanks coming over the hills, that's when I call the government, but if it's a random act of violence or a moral issue, that's when other options are more viable.
-- Bridget
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Libertarians with kids is just as likly as Blacks with the McRib. :lol:
Huh? :?
It was a dumb joke. sorry....
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I'm 19. I'm damn well not breeding for a good 10 years yet. :)
Awww, atleast wait 20. Hell! ,go for 40! :lol:
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I have 2 children by two woman. That means each child has their own mother. I'm now engaged to a third woman, paying child support, and thinking about having a 3rd.
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I'm 19. I'm damn well not breeding for a good 10 years yet. :)
Awww, atleast wait 20. Hell! ,go for 40! :lol:
Do not go to 40 without looking for a partner. If you wait til 40 your chances of finding a woman of childbearing age who doesn't already have kids is reduced greatly. Also, it isn't the 1950s anymore women aren't trapped into only considering older men. Many women tend to go for younger men especially if they themselves are successful. My baby's daddy is 8 years younger than me and we have a great relationship. I highly recommend older women for younger men.
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LL, oddly the girl I'm with is 8 years younger than me. I guess she likes older tranny freaks. o_O Then again, she's the man of the lego pair. She plays CSS, I play The Sims. She likes to be direct with sex, I prefer foreplay and stuff. o_O
-- Bridget
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when you say you're a tranny, do you mean you had an operation or just like to play dressup?
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when you say you're a tranny, do you mean you had an operation or just like to play dressup?
Right now I'm just part time since my job is basically ran by bigotted dickweeds.
-- Bridget
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To get back to Libertarians & Kids.....
My son has been wearing his Libertarian Party of DeKalb (party of personal responsibility) to school on the days he stays for flag football. Is under his uniform shirt during day, then out in the open on the public (charter) school athletic field after.
So far, no requests for him not to wear it. Fun part, he's doing this completely on his own because he likes the shirt.
I wouldn't even think of asking him - that's his decision to make.
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I'm 19. I'm damn well not breeding for a good 10 years yet. :)
Awww, atleast wait 20. Hell! ,go for 40! :lol:
Do not go to 40 without looking for a partner. If you wait til 40 your chances of finding a woman of childbearing age who doesn't already have kids is reduced greatly. Also, it isn't the 1950s anymore women aren't trapped into only considering older men. Many women tend to go for younger men especially if they themselves are successful. My baby's daddy is 8 years younger than me and we have a great relationship. I highly recommend older women for younger men.
Sorry, I prefer to play within my own age bracket. To be honest the 'not yet' is in case I change my mind at some point. As far as I'm currently concerned, if I had a kid I'd take up Satanism just to have something useful to do with the damn squalling, shitting, spawn of Lucifers hangovers.
This rambling tirade has been brought to you by coffee, and lots of it :D
You will have to forgive libertylover. She is always trying to molest young men on this forum.
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You will have to forgive libertylover. She is always trying to molest young men on this forum.
And, Trademark is bitter because he isn't one of them. :P
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And, Trademark is bitter because he isn't one of them. :P
That woman couldn't molest me at gun point. :lol:
"Shoot!"
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Can I try that?
try what? molesting trademark at gunpoint? :lol:
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Can I try that?
try what? molesting trademark at gunpoint? :lol:
:lol:
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I shall explain to you why libertarians do not have kids.
Ummmm... if you look at the poll itself, you'll see a little over one-third of us DO have kids.
Given that the FTL demographic is young (late teens, early-to-mid twenties) I'd say it's surprising how many of us have kids.
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Trademark funny enough I thought you were into, way into, older women. :P
The out hole should not have things put in it.
**Forwards this to Gay_Libertarian** :lol:
Hey, if GL likes it, and it works for him, more power to him. I'm not comfortable with it, so I won't do it. :P
Hey, if Bill wants to jam it up your bum, that is between you two. Myself, I'm not into young chicks that like anal sex. :?
(http://www.mirandala.org/images/Grandma%20small.jpg)
Now this is a woman I would do anal with. :shock:
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Can I try that?
try what? molesting trademark at gunpoint? :lol:
Well I was thinking shooting, but this works too. :twisted:
Warning! My woman will kick your ass if you try to get near my cock. You have been warned. :shock:
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Trademark funny I thought you were into way older women. :P
No, I don't fuck corpses. Unless they are related to you! :P
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I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience.
Except if you have sex and don't like it, you can stop. If you have children and don't like it, you're shit out of luck.
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I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience.
Except if you have sex and don't like it, you can stop. If you have children and don't like it, you're shit out of luck.
What about the pro choicers?
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I said if you have children, not if you get pregnant.
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I said if you have children, not if you get pregnant.
So I gather you are against 422nd trimester abortion? :lol:
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I said if you have children, not if you get pregnant.
So I gather you are against 422nd trimester abortion? :lol:
Wouldn't that have to be decided on a case-by-case basis?
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I said if you have children, not if you get pregnant.
So I gather you are against 422nd trimester abortion? :lol:
Wouldn't that have to be decided on a case-by-case basis?
They do it all the time in Texas. I think the aborted is required to be retarded though.
*please let them get this joke!*
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captial punishment capital of the amerika :D
they'll kill anyone here
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captial punishment capital of the amerika :D
they'll kill anyone here
You kill someone, we gona kill ya back. Yeee Hawww :?
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they'll kill anyone here
They are killing people all over now, Thanks to someone.
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captial punishment capital of the amerika :D
they'll kill anyone here
You kill someone, we gona kill ya back. Yeee Hawww :?
i dont get any karma for being in the dispatching capital of the country :shock:
they just killed the first black woman since the civil war here acouple of months back
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captial punishment capital of the amerika :D
they'll kill anyone here
You kill someone, we gona kill ya back. Yeee Hawww :?
i dont get any karma for being in the dispatching capital of the country :shock:
they just killed the first black woman since the civil war here acouple of months back
Taxas reminds me of a Roman entertainment I have read about.
http://www.iol.ie/~coolmine/typ/romans/enter2.html
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yeah thats called saturday here
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yeah thats called saturday here
Yeah, I think it's the Christians that fear that doomsday shit. I say bring it on. ;)
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I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience.
Except if you have sex and don't like it, you can stop. If you have children and don't like it, you're shit out of luck.
I must have missed it. When did they outlaw adoption? I think you can give up your parental rights to a child and place them up for adoption. In fact I think loads of people who don't every want to have a child of their own, seem to think there are scads of kids up for adoption. Please site your source on this new anti-adoption law it would be news to several people.
Don't take it personally there are loads of people I feel sorry for, I'll list some of them;
I feel sorry for people who don't have a pet.
I feel sorry for people who don't have a loving relationship.
I feel sorry for people who are still virgins after the age of 20.
I feel sorry for people who lose their virginity before they are 16 or mature enough.
I feel sorry for people who don't want kids and think that I am attacking that choice by feeling sorry for the fact that they are missing out on a special one of a kind relationship.
I feel sorry for people who think they are voting for change when they vote for a Democrat or a Republican.
I feel sorry for people who think I will continue to write down all the people I feel sorry for and are disappointed.
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I also know a few who don't have any kids. I feel sorry for those who don't have kids. It is like sex you don't know what you are missing unless you have the experience.
Except if you have sex and don't like it, you can stop. If you have children and don't like it, you're shit out of luck.
I must have missed it. When did they outlaw adoption? I think you can give up your parental rights to a child and place them up for adoption.
I don't think it is an issue of outlawed adoption. It seems to be more of an issue of what adoption does. I mean look at you. :P
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I feel sorry for people who don't have a pet.
I feel sorry for people who don't have a loving relationship.
I feel sorry for people who are still virgins after the age of 20.
I feel sorry for people who lose their virginity before they are 16 or mature enough.
I feel sorry for people who don't want kids and think that I am attacking that choice by feeling sorry for the fact that they are missing out on a special one of a kind relationship.
I feel sorry for people who think they are voting for change when they vote for a Democrat or a Republican.
I feel sorry for people who think I will continue to write down all the people I feel sorry for and are disappointed.
I feel sorry for people who have the I.Q. of a fruitbat. *GWB*
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I feel sorry for people who don't have a pet.
I feel sorry for people who don't have a loving relationship.
I feel sorry for people who are still virgins after the age of 20.
I feel sorry for people who lose their virginity before they are 16 or mature enough.
I feel sorry for people who don't want kids and think that I am attacking that choice by feeling sorry for the fact that they are missing out on a special one of a kind relationship.
I feel sorry for people who think they are voting for change when they vote for a Democrat or a Republican.
I feel sorry for people who think I will continue to write down all the people I feel sorry for and are disappointed.
I feel sorry for people who have the I.Q. of a fruitbat. *GWB*
Really is there any reason to insult fruitbats?
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My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian. I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
So, the question is, do you have kids? Is she right?
Well, compare this with the other poll which identifies which age group that people here, are in. Most people here are too young to have started a family -- at least by today's standard.
Craig
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My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian. I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
So, the question is, do you have kids? Is she right?
Well, compare this with the other poll which identifies which age group that people here, are in. Most people here are too young to have started a family -- at least by today's standard.
Craig
Very true, and planned parenthood really helps. :lol:
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Let me just insert this statistic:
New Hampshire has the lowest birth rate in the nation (http://www.statemaster.com/graph-B/peo_wom_per_100_who_had_a_bir_in_the_pas_12_mon-had-birth-past-12-months)!
Sad, ain't it?
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New Hampshire has the lowest birth rate in the nation (http://www.statemaster.com/graph-B/peo_wom_per_100_who_had_a_bir_in_the_pas_12_mon-had-birth-past-12-months)!
I personally am doing my part to try and fix that statistic.
Practice, practice, practice.... :twisted:
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Let me just insert this statistic:
New Hampshire has the lowest birth rate in the nation (http://www.statemaster.com/graph-B/peo_wom_per_100_who_had_a_bir_in_the_pas_12_mon-had-birth-past-12-months)!
Sad, ain't it?
Not really, some would say it is very wise to cut back on having children in the modern age. With war, gas prices, and TV's ;The View. Bringing children into the world can be cruel. :P
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Let me just insert this statistic:
New Hampshire has the lowest birth rate in the nation (http://www.statemaster.com/graph-B/peo_wom_per_100_who_had_a_bir_in_the_pas_12_mon-had-birth-past-12-months)!
Sad, ain't it?
People are having too much fun in NH to have kids. Keep in mind that people who make good money tend to have less kids and more fun than most people. Welcome to NH. Also, less kids keeps taxes down :)
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What's up with Idaho? Utard I understand but Idaho. Oh, yeah there is nothing to do there but have sex for entertainment.
Without kids who is going to fight for freedom in the future? Even your future, cause sooner or later you are going to be too old to put up much of a struggle.
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One motivation I have to be a more activist libertarian is BECAUSE of my kids. I want them to learn the difference between persuasion and coersion, force vs. volunteerism.
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Speaking of libertarians and their children do any of you have children have any of those (few) libertarian oriented kids books? Are any of you concerned about socialist messages in childrens books?
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I haven't noticed anything too objectionable in my daughter's books yet, but she's still pretty young - I'm sure it'll show up eventually. I bought "Schoolhouse Rock" on DVD for her, though, and found that they've added a few cartoons to it since I was a kid. I don't mind the grammar, math, or science cartoons, but there are a couple of new ones in the history/government/money category that are really statist. There's one in particular that I will not let her watch - it's got a character named Max who sings about all the wonderful things the government does with tax revenue. Ick.
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did you see the school house rocks skit that someone posted the other day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8
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Nice...thanks for the link!
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this guy posted it first AaronCox (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2316)
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it's got a character named Max who sings about all the wonderful things the government does with tax revenue. Ick.
Goddamn! That's screweeeeeed up! :o :x
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I bought "Schoolhouse Rock" on DVD for her, though, and found that they've added a few cartoons to it since I was a kid. There's one in particular that I will not let her watch - it's got a character named Max who sings about all the wonderful things the government does with tax revenue. Ick.
Here are the lyrics. They make me sad.
"Tax Man Max"
Welcome to the new variety, sit and relax.
I'm that song and dance phenomenon, Max
Let me sing for you, do my thing for you,
'Till they give me the axe.
Here's the song I'm doing, gonna fill in you all about tax.
Tax is that familiar melody, sinful and true.
Hum it if you've earned a dollar or two.
Bucks in billions for the government for whatever they do.
Anyone who earns a living gives more than a few.
So schools can be their best, so our roads will have no cracks;
Someone fix those train tracks!
I'm even callin' you Uncle and I'm payin' my tax.
Oh, these are my girls. Hello girls.
Hello max. Nice outfit.
There are many different ways we pay what we owe.
Lady's if you'll follow the lovely tableau.
Income, property, sales, utility. Candy bars in my show.
Licenses for dogs and cats, and that's not all you know.
Out of every dollar a person can make,
City, State and Federal governments take...
Take what?
What they think is fair you givin' your share;
Now and then there's a break.
Max is talking taxes,
Hey, I kept you awake! For the things your town may need,
For the things a country lacks,
All good things take green backs.
We hear you callin' Uncle and we're paying our tax.
People do complain,
Say their taxes are high;
What am I to get in return?
Look around you friend,Max is showin' you why,
With your taxes you support
How we live and how we learn
Now here's the good news,
Many things are tax deductible.
Which means their cost can be subtracted from the amount of income you'll be taxed on. Things like medicine, doctor bills, and supplies for your work.
So keep those receipts.
Be kind to your parents at tax time.
And remember April 15th. April 15th.
What a showman you are Max.
Entertaining us with tax,
In those snazzy plaid slacks.
These slacks are for my business.
I tell you how to fit them.
I hear you callin' Uncle, and I'm paying my tax.
His tax are max.
And I'm deducting my sax.
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it cant be as good as donald duck and his tax cartoon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2857278388843745235&q=banned+cartoon&hl=en
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Here are the lyrics. They make me sad.
"Tax Man Max"
Welcome to the new variety, sit and relax.
I'm that song and dance phenomenon, Max
Let me sing for you, do my thing for you,
'Till they give me the axe.
Here's the song I'm doing, gonna fill in you all about tax.
Tax is that familiar melody, sinful and true.
Hum it if you've earned a dollar or two.
Bucks in billions for the government for whatever they do.
Anyone who earns a living gives more than a few.
So schools can be their best, so our roads will have no cracks;
Someone fix those train tracks!
I'm even callin' you Uncle and I'm payin' my tax.
Oh, these are my girls. Hello girls.
Hello max. Nice outfit.
There are many different ways we pay what we owe.
Lady's if you'll follow the lovely tableau.
Income, property, sales, utility. Candy bars in my show.
Licenses for dogs and cats, and that's not all you know.
Out of every dollar a person can make,
City, State and Federal governments take...
Take what?
What they think is fair you givin' your share;
Now and then there's a break.
Max is talking taxes,
Hey, I kept you awake! For the things your town may need,
For the things a country lacks,
All good things take green backs.
We hear you callin' Uncle and we're paying our tax.
People do complain,
Say their taxes are high;
What am I to get in return?
Look around you friend,Max is showin' you why,
With your taxes you support
How we live and how we learn
Now here's the good news,
Many things are tax deductible.
Which means their cost can be subtracted from the amount of income you'll be taxed on. Things like medicine, doctor bills, and supplies for your work.
So keep those receipts.
Be kind to your parents at tax time.
And remember April 15th. April 15th.
What a showman you are Max.
Entertaining us with tax,
In those snazzy plaid slacks.
These slacks are for my business.
I tell you how to fit them.
I hear you callin' Uncle, and I'm paying my tax.
His tax are max.
And I'm deducting my sax.
Damn, that is so awful I can't even describe how I feel, how awful that is. Talk about brainwashing, socialist,garbage.
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it cant be as good as donald duck and his tax cartoon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2857278388843745235&q=banned+cartoon&hl=en
Wow! At least someone had the decency to ban the Donald Duck cartoon at some point.
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it cant be as good as donald duck and his tax cartoon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2857278388843745235&q=banned+cartoon&hl=en
Wow! At least someone had the decency to ban the Donald Duck cartoon at some point.
Well I don't agree about banning it.
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I know...I didn't mean that literally. Jeez, tough room! :lol:
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I know...I didn't mean that literally. Jeez, tough room! :lol:
:lol: Not really..sorry about that..should have cut you some slack there. I'm really a nice guy..kind of. :lol:
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Speaking of libertarians and their children do any of you have children have any of those (few) libertarian oriented kids books? Are any of you concerned about socialist messages in childrens books?
My kids are just coming reading age and I've been assembling a collection of books that have libertarian themes. There are a lot of books that have themes that are precursors to socialism. With those I either discard them or emphasize that forcing someone to do good things is wrong.
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My kids are just coming reading age and I've been assembling a collection of books that have libertarian themes.
Yertle the Turtle is my favorite of this genre.
From the Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yertle_the_Turtle):
It is said by Dr. Seuss himself that "Yertle the Turtle" was modeled after the rise of Hitler. The book explained his feelings about fascism, and Nazis in particular.
If it's been a long time since you read any Dr. Seuss, check out Yertle.
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There are a lot of books that have themes that are precursors to socialism.
I noticed that myself while I perusing childrens books in Barnes and Noble awhile ago. One book going on about how wonderful FDR was...he was just trying to help out all the folk effected by the Great Depressoin afterall...
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Someone told me about the book, "The Dog that Owned Himself," however I have yet to find a copy of this book anywhere. And if anyone knows of this book and where to get it I sure would like a copy.
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odd premise. avoiding the gov't is only enhanced by having children. I think this premise can only be advanced by a non-libertarian who is thinking that the state is here to raise our kids and "protect the children". actually this is a little off puttiing. And I think the poll is skewed by younger listeners.
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People who have kids don't usually have as much time to post on forums.
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Except for the very inept parents.
Bumpety bump bump bump.
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I has kid and I are not inept. He only gets dropped on his head once or twice a week.
Stats:
1 kid, male, 8 months, name: Atlas.
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I've got two kids, boy (4) and girl (7). Would like to have more but wife doesn't think so. Kids are awesome fun and they pretty much come out libertarian anyhow. My 7 year-old does have some facist leanings, sometimes tho. We were talking at the dinner table about the salt and pepper shakers fighting over who owned the tabletop when Pepsi can decided to interveen (we discussed possible methods of stopping the salt/pepper war). She decided that Pepsi can, even tho it is bigger, shouldn't choose sides and invade. She said they should all talk about the problem and than work out a deal.
Or invent a machine in outer space that would go into their brains and "make" them forget about fighting :shock:.
Kids are fun!
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I have a child and I know other Libertarians with kids as well. So I don't think it matters.
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I have a 4 year old daughter, and I shudder at the way "we" are selling her future into slavery. So... yeah, I'm a libertarian (not the disgruntled Republican branch, either).
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I have 7 kids, ages 1-7. All of them are motorcycle riding, scotch drinking, tobacco smoking, gun toting, Jew gold carrying, rebellious, anarcho-capitalists who will go to public school and collect food stamps and social security.
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I've got two grown daughters, and I've been a libertarian since 1968.
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Libertarians with kids is just as likly as Blacks with the McRib. :lol:
Ummmmmmmmmm, poor spelling and grammar aside, really racist maybe?
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"Force always attracts men of low morality." Albert Einstein
That Einstein was one smart guy : D
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I have kids. 3 of them, ages 17, 16 and 9. I also have a 6 year old step-child. If I had a higher income, a working farm and hips that didn't require C-sections, I'd have more. I love children and enjoyed being part of a large extended family growing up.
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I Do not have children and i do not plan on it for quite a while,i just simply believe in live and let live, i wish more people had this view but regardless of my own personal opinion i actully enjoyed reading this thread